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NEWSWEEK: Before 9/11, Justice Department Curtailed Program to Monitor Al Qaeda Suspects in the U.S.
Prnewswire ^ | 3/21/04

Posted on 03/21/2004 8:03:29 AM PST by Brian Mosely

NEWSWEEK: In the Months Before 9/11, Justice Department Curtailed Highly Classified Program to Monitor Al Qaeda Suspects in the U.S.
Sunday March 21, 10:51 am ET

'They Came in There With Their Agenda and [Al Qaeda] was not on it,' Says Former Counterterrorism Chief Clarke of Bush Administration

NEW YORK, March 21 /PRNewswire/ -- Newsweek has learned that in the months before 9/11, the U.S. Justice Department curtailed a highly classified program called "Catcher's Mitt" to monitor Al Qaeda suspects in the United States, after a federal judge severely chastised the FBI for improperly seeking permission to wiretap terrorists. During the Bush administration's first few months in office, Attorney General John Ashcroft downgraded terrorism as a priority, choosing to place more emphasis on drug trafficking and gun violence, report Investigative Correspondent Michael Isikoff and Assistant Managing Editor Evan Thomas in the March 29 issue of Newsweek (on newsstands Monday, March 22).


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; bookreview; catchersmitt; clarke; doj; homelandsecurity; jihadinamerica; kerrystaff; kerrystaffer; richardclarke
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To: sinkspur
(Nobody cares, Guv, about what you think you knew pre-9/11).

That statement is false as well. Cheers!

21 posted on 03/21/2004 8:32:13 AM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: AntiGuv
That statement is false as well.

LOL!! Well, of course, in your eyes, everyone here is waiting with bated breath.

Have a nice day.

How many mirrors in your house?

22 posted on 03/21/2004 8:34:27 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: alloysteel
You're right -- the story here is that a (probably Clinton-appointed?) Federal Judge blocked efforts to track terrorists, and helped them carry out 9/11. What is the Judge's name?
23 posted on 03/21/2004 8:37:18 AM PST by expatpat
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To: Brian Mosely
the U.S. Justice Department curtailed a highly classified program called "Catcher's Mitt" to monitor Al Qaeda suspects in the United States,

I had heard of "Catchers Mitt". What they do'nt say is it was very invasive! Much more than anything Ashcroft has come up with, and threatened the liberties of all Americans, not just suspected terrorists. Many citizens complain about the new Homeland Security. But, Clinton was proposing the "soviet-ization" of American life! Even the Dems and ACLU were against it, which is saying something! It might of been a good idea but Clinton wanted to go way too far.
24 posted on 03/21/2004 8:39:28 AM PST by zinochka (God bless President George Bush and Vladimir Putin!)
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To: Brian Mosely
I can only guess where the libs are going with this, perhaps:

"We needed a patriot act BEFORE 9/11"...as they demonize the patriot act POST 9/11.

The 'rats will only dig themselves in deeper as they try to explain why siding with Al Qaeda against the Christian Serbs who were protecting their homeland from Islamo-expansionism was a more urgent cause than going after Bin Laden/Al Qaeda.
25 posted on 03/21/2004 8:39:50 AM PST by Jim_Curtis (Free Milosevic.....Jail Annan)
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To: WFTR
"We must destroy them until they surrender or none are left."

Agreed! THAT is the point, all this other stuff is beside the point. And, from what I hear on the chat shows today, ex-clinton officials are going to testify that they told the incoming Bush admin. about al queda, so what is the point? That Bush & Co. should have done in 8 months what Clinton & Co. FAILED to do for 8 years? Only the dems and the mainstream media could find that argument convincing.

For all his faults, Kerry is not the reason not to vote for Kerry, whereas in another year that might be the case. Bush MUST be re-elected, to show the Muslim Terrorists, the Euro-weenies and all the rest of the globe that the American people mean to exert our power as it suits US, not them.
26 posted on 03/21/2004 8:40:18 AM PST by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: sinkspur
It is your right to sound as ignorant as you desire. No one can ever take that away from you.

I both instances of falsehood, you have no clue of what you speak, but keep on keeping on!
27 posted on 03/21/2004 8:41:17 AM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: sinkspur
In both instances..
28 posted on 03/21/2004 8:42:52 AM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: Brian Mosely
"In the meeting, says Clarke, Wolfowitz cited the writings of Laurie Mylroie, a controversial academic who had written a book advancing an elaborate conspiracy theory that Saddam was behind the 1993 World Trade Center bombing."

It's interesting how the media labels Mylroie "controversial" yet wasn't she initially an advisor to Clinton, as well?
29 posted on 03/21/2004 8:43:50 AM PST by cwb (Kerry: The only person who could make Bill Clinton look like a moderate)
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To: Jim_Curtis
Let's not forget who CLinton went after, after the first WTC attack. Instead of focusing on Islamic fundamentalist, that administration went after the Christian fundys at Waco. From the beginning, this administration went after the wrong people.
30 posted on 03/21/2004 8:47:28 AM PST by cwb (Kerry: The only person who could make Bill Clinton look like a moderate)
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To: KJacob
Does anyone really think this story could develop legs? I don't.

The main thing is that we are safe from Tommy Chong.  If we stopped one child from smoking a joint, it was worth it.
31 posted on 03/21/2004 8:47:49 AM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Brian Mosely
The more bits and pieces of this book gets reported upon, the more this books sound like it was written by the author of Rockyefellers MEMO.

"In the meeting, says Clarke, Wolfowitz cited the writings of Laurie Mylroie, a controversial academic who had written a book advancing an elaborate conspiracy theory that Saddam was behind the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Clarke says he tried to refute Wolfowitz. "We've investigated that five ways to Friday, and nobody [in the government] believes that," Clarke recalls saying. "It was Al Qaeda. It wasn't Saddam." A spokesman for Wolfowitz describes Clarke's account as a "fabrication." Wolfowitz always regarded Al Qaeda as "a major threat," says this official."


Looks as though the plan is seek to expose the "INTEL" that these lying crooked liberals do not know.

"A spokesman for Wolfowitz describes Clarke's account as a "fabrication." Wolfowitz always regarded Al Qaeda as "a major threat," says this official."

This will statement will require a "prove it".

So the game is still on to get to the INTEL, and knowing that the Bush Administration will not cause harm to prove themselves correct, leaves the door wide open for the liars and crooks to paint the Bush Administration as misleading, and seek to destroy their strength "credibility".


32 posted on 03/21/2004 8:48:42 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Are "good judges" ones who let the FBI violate the law, as you seem to imply? I don't think so.
33 posted on 03/21/2004 8:52:31 AM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: AntiGuv
That is false. I thought it self-evident.

Exactly what did you think was "self-evident?"

Was it self-evident that terrorists would make another attack on U.S. soil? I can agree that we should have known that someday they'd try something, but that hypothesis is not strong enough intelligence to counter their attack. Undoubtedly, we should never have had policies in the airlines saying that the way to deal with hijackings was for pilots to open the doors to the cockpit and try to establish a "rapport" with the hijackers. That policy was stupid in the 70's when it began.

Are you saying it was self-evident that the terrorists would hijack some planes and fly them into buildings? I've read Tom Clancy books too, but you are a long way from proving that we had real intelligence that they were implementing this kind of plan.

Are you saying it was self-evident that they would strike on that day? Again, you might have some tin-foil hat website making those claims, but the reality is that these claims are only valid in hindsight.

Anyway, if you can tear yourself away from trading insults with sinkspur, I'd like to know what you meant.

Thanks,

Ready for a Repeat
Bill

34 posted on 03/21/2004 8:54:43 AM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: AntiGuv
I thought it self-evident.

Oh, sure you did. (wink)

35 posted on 03/21/2004 8:55:13 AM PST by cyncooper ("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")
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To: jocon307
Bush MUST be re-elected, to show the Muslim Terrorists, the Euro-weenies and all the rest of the globe that the American people mean to exert our power as it suits US, not them.

This is an excellent point that bears repeating!

Ready for a Repeat
Bill

36 posted on 03/21/2004 8:56:22 AM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: coloradan
Are "good judges" ones who let the FBI violate the law, as you seem to imply? I don't think so.

Good judges are those who don't legislate from the bench, don't release serial killers on a technicality and care more for the victims than the criminals.

37 posted on 03/21/2004 8:56:32 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: WFTR; cyncooper
Exactly what did you think was "self-evident?"

I thought it self-evident that they would fly planes into the World Trade Center. Mainly because (a) they said they wanted to destroy the World Trade Center; and (b) they said they wanted to fly planes into buildings.

1+1=2. It wasn't complicated.

I've read Tom Clancy books too, but you are a long way from proving that we had real intelligence that they were implementing this kind of plan.

We had precisely that. Here's a public example that I was aware of: Operation Bojinka.

Are you saying it was self-evident that they would strike on that day?

No, not at all. I was however suspecting that there might be a strike on September 18, 2001 (Rosh HaShanah) because it was rather clear from the State Department notices throughout that summer that there was an extremely high threat of terrorist attack and the Jewish holiday seemed like as good a conjecture as any.

38 posted on 03/21/2004 9:05:46 AM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: AntiGuv
Uh huh
39 posted on 03/21/2004 9:07:31 AM PST by cyncooper ("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")
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To: WFTR
Incidentally, I have never read a Tom Clancy novel. I understand from reports after 9/11 that he wrote one where a plane crashes into the State of the Union speech.

Sounds like a good book! Back when I was in college, I outlined a plot for a novel where a President wants to seize dictatorial rule of the nation and part of his plot is to crash a plane into the Capital building shortly before he's to deliver the State of the Union (before he arrives). It's too bad Clancy beat me to it! :)
40 posted on 03/21/2004 9:11:11 AM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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