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To: CSM
"I have been on a jury and I looked at the facts as presented. I didn't assume any guilt and force the defendant to prove their innocense."

But if that defendant were a cop....you'd hang him. You are no better than the crooked cops you claim to hate.

"Unlike 95% of the police attitude of arrest them all and let the courts sort it out."

This makes no sense at all. The cops arrest someone if they committed a crime and your upset because they leave the job of decideing who is innocent or who is guilty to the court system?

"I won't deny that I have a bad attitude regarding cops."

It's starting to affect your personality. Get over that one experience you had with a cop and move on my friend. You are not the only one to have experienced something like this. I've experienced bad cops myself, but I don't let it cloud my judgement the way its clouded yours. Go to your local police department and ask to ride along for a few hours. You'd be surprised at how your attitude will change once you've walked in their shoes for a while. People do it all of the time in my community and it not only helps them to understand the police officer's perspective, it's bridged that gap between cops and civilians.
477 posted on 03/24/2004 10:45:21 AM PST by Arpege92 (Ketchup and coffee is like Kerry and the truth....neither go well together. - rickmichaels)
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To: Arpege92
"You are no better than the crooked cops you claim to hate."

I may be no better in your mind, however since I have no power to ruin people's lives I am better for society than the crooked cops.

"The cops arrest someone if they committed a crime and your upset because they leave the job of decideing who is innocent or who is guilty to the court system?"

Go back and look at the post I replied to with my original. The statement was made that an arrest would be made by whatever means the cop felt like using. Therefore, they are automatically considered guilty by the cop. The courts automatically consider the word of the cop to be gospel and will consider the defendant guilty immediately. From there it is "take a deal to get this overwith, or take your chances with a jury that automatically assumes guilt". Our society no longer practices an assumed innosense.

"It's starting to affect your personality. Get over that one experience you had with a cop...."

So. Is haveing a bad attitude towards cops a crime? You may not agree with me, that's fine, however I still have the right to not like cops. BTW, it was more than one experience, it has been multiple times I requested assistance and never received any. In addition, I have worked closely with the police community in a few situations and I have found the general cop attitude to be deplorable. They earned the attitude from me.
495 posted on 03/24/2004 12:57:31 PM PST by CSM (Vote Kerry! Boil the Frog! Speed up the 2nd Revolution! (Be like Spain! At least they're honest))
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