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State still flying Confederate flag
espn ^ | March 16, 2004 | AP

Posted on 03/23/2004 12:10:32 PM PST by stainlessbanner

COLUMBIA, S.C. -- The NCAA has indefinitely extended its ban on awarding championships to South Carolina for flying the Confederate flag on Statehouse grounds.

NCAA spokesman Jeff Howard told The Associated Press on Tuesday that the August 2001 decision for a two-year moratorium called for "significant change" from the state. That has not occurred, he said.

The NCAA executive committee had voted for a ban on selecting sites in South Carolina for sports events, such as basketball championships.

"The membership believes that this is the correct stance to take around this particular issue," Howard said.

The NCAA tournament was in Greenville for the first and second rounds in 2002 and drew protests by the NAACP.

Opponents of the flag say it's a symbol of racism and hatred. Flag supporters say it honors heritage.

The flag's position has cost South Carolina other prominent athletic events. Furman hosted a NCAA cross country regional for 21 years until the NCAA ban.

The Atlantic Coast Conference moved its 2003 baseball tournament from Knights Castle in Fort Mill because of the moratorium.

The NCAA's ban also costs the state financially.

Tom Regan, chairman of the Department of Sports and Entertainment Education at the University of South Carolina, says a region can benefit by as much as $12 million to $15 million from a weekend of NCAA tournament basketball.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: confederate; dixie; dixielist; flag; history; ncaa; sc
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1 posted on 03/23/2004 12:10:33 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: *dixie_list; Leatherneck_MT; U S Army EOD; CurlyBill; w_over_w; BSunday; PeaRidge; RebelBanker; ...
Sorry, NCAA - this one's not for sale.
2 posted on 03/23/2004 12:11:07 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
Molon Labe.
3 posted on 03/23/2004 12:12:08 PM PST by Hacksaw (theocratic paleoconistic Confederate flag waving loyalty oath supporter)
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Can you say "extortion," boys & girls?

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4 posted on 03/23/2004 12:13:42 PM PST by mhking (The UN was supposed to be the last, best hope for peace...it failed.)
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To: stainlessbanner
I don't mean to be overly sarcastic or cynical, but as long as politicians have a hand in the issue, you can bet your last Confederate dollar that, at some point, it is for sale.

Southern politicians are still politicians.

5 posted on 03/23/2004 12:14:19 PM PST by dmz
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To: mhking; Poohbah
It's politically-correct extortion.
6 posted on 03/23/2004 12:17:26 PM PST by hchutch (Why did the Nazgul bother running from Arwen's flash flood? They only managed to die tired.)
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To: stainlessbanner
How can the NCAA interfer in the states business. The state should ban any NCAA operations in the state.Declare them obsolete.
7 posted on 03/23/2004 12:17:57 PM PST by Unicorn (Two many wimps around)
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To: stainlessbanner
I've said it before, I'll say it again..

The NAACP encourages blacks to stay out of S.C...
Those blacks that respond to such exhortations are politically active, liberal, (socialist/leftist) whiners and trouble makers..

Keeping them out only encourages S.C. to continue their behaviour..

If I could find a way to get rid of all Liberals in Missouri, I would do it without hesitation..

8 posted on 03/23/2004 12:18:14 PM PST by Drammach (44 Automag.. where are you??)
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To: stainlessbanner
Hmm, funny that the NCAA will make a moral judgement on the Confederate flag, but refuses to get involved in the private lives of their players who father out of wedlock children, dupe universities for tens of thousands of dollars in scholarship money to showcase their talent and leave school before graduation, and corrupt college athletics through shady connections with gamblers and fatcat alumni....

But the confederate flag?! Whoa! That's where we draw the line....
9 posted on 03/23/2004 12:19:16 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe (John F-ing Kerry??? NO... F-ING... WAY!!!)
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To: stainlessbanner
The thing that kills me about this whole thing is that SC DID what the NAACP ASKED them to do....they removed the flag from the top of the courthouse. I thought placing the flag at the Confederate Memorial was an appropriate compromise. That just proved to me that the NAACP will NEVER be happy. If they move the flag from the memorial, the NAACP will call for the removal of the entire memorial before long. Give em an inch, and they'll take a mile.
10 posted on 03/23/2004 12:25:47 PM PST by dixierose (American by birth, Southern by the Grace of God)
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To: dixierose; stainlessbanner
That just proved to me that the NAACP will NEVER be happy.

They called for the removal of the Roy Barnes rag the day after it was adopted because it still contined the CBF. Screw 'em. Our family went to SC on vacation in support of the flag - tourism is UP!

11 posted on 03/23/2004 1:08:38 PM PST by 4CJ (||) OUR sins put Him on that cross - HIS love for us kept Him there. (||)
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To: dixierose
I thought placing the flag at the Confederate Memorial was an appropriate compromise

I didn't because I felt then as I do now, it will never be enough. We shouldn't have compromised the first time, but we did. Mississippi didn't compromise and they still have a part of the flag. South Carolina gave the NAALCP a seat at the discussion table as it were and they are still paying for it

12 posted on 03/23/2004 1:18:20 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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To: stainlessbanner

See that tiny flag on the pole right behind the Confederate Soldier's Monument? That's what they are protesting.

The North side inscription reads: “This monument perpetuates the memory of those who, true to the instincts of their birth, faithful to the teachings of their fathers, constant in their love for the state, died in the performance of their duty . . . who have glorified a fallen cause by the simple manhood of their lives, the patient endurance of suffering, and the heroism of death . . . and who in the dark hours of imprisonment, in the hopelessness of the hospital, in the short sharp agony of the field, found support and consolation in the belief that at home they would not be forgotten.”

The South side inscription reads: “Let the stranger, who in future times reads this inscription, recognize that these were men whom power could not corrupt, whom death could not terrify, whom defeat could not dishonor, and let their virtues plead for just judgement of the cause in which they perished… Let the South Carolinian of another generation remember that the state taught them how to live and how to die, and that from her broken fortunes she has preserved for her children the priceless treasures of her memories, teaching all who may claim the same birthright that truth, courage and patriotism endure forever.” —William Henry Trescot

The Confederate flag was removed from the statehouse dome and placed at the Confederate Soldier's Monument in a compromise with the NAACP. As soon as the flag was raised at the monument, the NAACP reneged on the compromise and announced their boycott. As far as I know, the NCAA is the only organization honoring the boycott.

13 posted on 03/23/2004 1:23:04 PM PST by aomagrat
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This is all so bogus. If it wasn't about a flag of our South it would be about something else. The fact is these people think they have a beef with historical fact because their ancestors were once slaves. Big deal so were most of our ancestors! Get over it! Somebody better warn the NAACP that GOD used slavery as a teaching tool with the Jew because they refused to honor HIM. Not much has changed. Besides... most of us are still slaves to the Federal Government in one way or another.
14 posted on 03/23/2004 1:56:18 PM PST by Luke (u)
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To: mhking
YEP. i can!

free dixie,sw

15 posted on 03/23/2004 2:19:52 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: stainlessbanner
Deo Vindice-----God Will Vindicate.
16 posted on 03/23/2004 2:20:34 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: stainlessbanner
Idiots. The Confederate Flag does NOT fly over the State Capitol. Hey, its the NCAA's loss and the people of South Carolina are prepared to bear the price for the former's insistence upon political correctness - e.g, the loss of college basketball games.
17 posted on 03/23/2004 2:22:37 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Drammach
If I could find a way to get rid of all Liberals in Missouri, I would do it without hesitation..

The technology is not beyond the capabilities of the average citizen....


18 posted on 03/23/2004 6:24:45 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: archy
ROFL!

That's one mighty big problem, solved!
19 posted on 03/23/2004 10:33:09 PM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: dixierose
If they move the flag from the memorial, the NAACP will call for the removal of the entire memorial before long. Give em an inch, and they'll take a mile.

Just showing their intellectual heritage -- Marxist and Leftist. All compromises are only temporary, until the Main Enemy is totally defeated and his supporters sent to the Gulag.

Seems they're using the NCAA as a cat's paw, to reopen the issue after it's been "settled" by compromise. I agree with you -- screw the NAACP, hard. Kick back. Try to really hurt them in the wallet. Go after their tax status in court -- they've been paying off little girls to shut up about their bastard kids, right? Doesn't anyone in South Carolina have standing to sue about that? How about restraint of trade? Extortion? RICO? They wanna play rough, get rough. You've got nothing at all to lose with these guys. Beat them flat and then stomp on them, like the Southern Poverty Law Center did with that Klan bunch. Sue them individually and severally, and ask for damages guaranteed to put them all in bankruptcy for the rest of their lives -- and use the resources of the State of South Carolina to do it, and if necessary hold a referendum and bullyrag the issue to get "your" voters out to approve it and make sure it sticks! -- hell, that's exactly what the NAACP does.

All you have to do is win, and then you cut the ground from under any journo or propagandist who wants to call you a racist pork chop.

20 posted on 03/24/2004 2:27:04 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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