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To: Hon; doug from upland; OXENinFLA; Torie; VadeRetro; Hillary's Lovely Legs; Shermy; Travis McGee; ...

Looks like I found something from the FBI on the Stennis shooter, on a site about the
FBI files on L Ron Hubbard and Scientology, of all places:


[LETTERHEAD INFO BLACKED OUT]


October 14, 1973

Federal Bureau of Investigation
Washington Office
Pennsylvania Ave. at 9th St., N.W.
Washington, D.C.

Gentlemen:

It has come to our attention that the assailant of Senator Stennis, Tyrone Marshall, and his companion, were present at Scientology and at the RAP houses on 19th St., N.W. the night of the attack. This information was disclosed in the reports of the trial, as well as the fact that the FBI had conducted an investigation of both Scientology and RAP. We would like to have access to your investigative report of both of these addresses.

The Association is appearing as a party in two cases before the Board of Zoning Adjustment involving these two places which you have investigated, and wish to present for the record whatever facts you have developed. The first case, on Scientology, will be heard October 17, and the second, on RAP, will be heard November 14th.

We would be grateful for your assistance in these matters.

Sincerely,

[SIGNATURE BLACKED OUT]


October 18, 1973

[ADDRESS BLOCK BLACKED OUT]

Dear Mrs. [BLACKED OUT]

I have received your letter of October 14th.

In response to your request, while I would like to be of assistance to you, information contained in the files of the FBI which has been compiled for law enforcement purposes cannot be made available to other than authorized individuals. Please do not infer from this that the two organizations to which you refer have or have not been the subjects of an investigation by this Bureau.

Sincerely yours,

[stamped] C.M. Kelley

Clarence M. Kelley
Director

NOTE: Our files reveal prior correspondence with [BLACKED OUT] Attempts to telephonically contac[BLACKED OUT] on 10-17-73 to furnish her the above information because of the short deadline, were unsuccessful. Our files contain numerous references to Scientology and RAP. Mrs. per current telephone directory.

JCF:law (4)

As of this post, that's the only mention of John Stennis and Tyrone Marshall (or Marshall, Tyrone) that comes up on Google. I found nothing at all on the shooting of Senator Stennis in searches of the FBI website.

BTW, I'm flagging everyone who posted on this thread to this post, plus the regulars on the VVAW ping list. Freepmail me if you want on or off the regular list. Thanks.


100 posted on 03/26/2004 7:09:18 AM PST by Sabertooth (< /Kerry>)
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To: Sabertooth
Scientology ???

Why am I surprised .. but yet at the same time not shocked?

Looks like this could take some interesting twists and turns
101 posted on 03/26/2004 7:23:47 AM PST by Mo1 (Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
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To: Sabertooth
There's a big dog here that ain't barking. How can a senator get shot and not get any news coverage?
102 posted on 03/26/2004 7:27:20 AM PST by js1138
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To: Sabertooth
Another great find.
103 posted on 03/26/2004 7:27:23 AM PST by petitfour
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To: Sabertooth
Looks like I found something from the FBI on the Stennis shooter, on a site about the FBI files on L Ron Hubbard and Scientology, of all places:

In an earlier post I mentioned that the Manson Family, which tried to assassinate President Ford shortly before the Symbionese Liberation Army did, derived from a spinoff of Scientology; here are some details on that and on SLA/Family ties to the Ford assassination attempt:

Some books critical of Scientology and Dianetics / Scientology Booklist

L. Ron Hubbard: Messiah or Madman? Corydon, Bent, and L. Ron Hubbard Jr. aka Ronald DeWolf. Lyle Stuart, Secaucus, NewJersey. 1987. ISBN: 081-840-4442. Revised, Updated and Expanded Edition (tradepaperback.) Corydon, Bent. Barricade Books, Fort Lee, New Jersey. 1992. ISBN:094-263-7577. (Note: L. Ron Hubbard Jr.'s name was taken off this edition for legalreasons.) A new 1996 edition includes an index; Brian Ambry organized and wrote theupdate and addendum sections for this new edition and the 1992 edition. ISBN for the 1996 edition: 156-980-009X. (This large book on Scientology is fairlydisorganized but it remains a vital source of first-hand testimony from ex-Scientologists about life aboard Hubbard's ship, the Apollo, and many alarming accounts of illegal and criminal activities within Scientology. Includes 21 photos,mostly of Hubbard, and two illustrations that compare Scientology's cross to that of the infamous Aleister Crowley. The two later editions are significantlydifferent from the original hardcover with several new added chapters and somerevisions to existing chapters.)

http://www.whyaretheydead.net/misc/Factnet/CORYDON.TXT

Piece of Blue Sky, a - Scientology, Dianetics, and L. Ron Hubbard Exposed. Atack, Jon. Carol Publishing Group, New York. 1990. ISBN: 081-840-499X hardback (c) 1990 Jon Atack. Available in the UK by calling 01342 316129, or 0044 1342 316129 in the rest of Europe. (This is widely hailed as the best book on the subject of Scientology. Jon rolls up his sleeves and attacks the cult with impeccable referencing and the fullweight of documentation from the world's largest Scientology archive. On top ofthat, the book is captivating, absorbing, and very well-written.)

http://members.chello.nl/mgormez/books/a_piece_of_blue_sky/

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D081840499X/001-3290441-1724818

Netherlands

http://www.xs4all.nl/~johanw/CoS/APieceOfBlueSky/index.html

A Piece of Blue Sky - Part 3, Chapter 7:

The usual trickle of defecting members who set up their own Scientological groups continued through the 1960s. A splinter group called Compulsions Analysis came into being in London, in 1964, under the direction of a couple named Robert and Mary Ann Moor, who called themselves the "De Grimstons." They later renamed their organization "The Process," and later yet, "The Church of the Final Judgment." Mass murderer Charles Manson was an enthusiastic supporter both of The Process, and of Scientology. Author Maury Terry is convinced that David Berkowitz, the "Son of Sam" killer, was also involved with The Process.

The Process Church of the Final Judgement - FT134

In 1963, two people met at the L Ron Hubbard Institute of Scientology on Fitzroy Street, London. They were both studying to be ‘auditors’. Based on his earlier system of Dianetics, ‘auditing’ was Hubbard’s method of discovering and eliminating ‘engrams,’ the psychic residue from past traumas. The aim of auditing was to become ‘clear,’ to wipe the psychic slate clean and become, in effect, a kind of superman, no longer enthralled to neurotic fears and hang-ups.

Robert DeGrimston Moore (left) and Mary Ann McClean were both fascinated by auditing and soon grew proficient. Although they came from considerably different backgrounds, both were enthusiastic Scientologists.

[SNIP]

In June, 1966, the DeGrimstons and a group of about 30 ‘Processeans’ – as they called themselves – left for Nassau. They were accompanied by the six Alsatian dogs the DeGrimstons had recently acquired – another suggestion from the divine powers. (Further suggestions included an $80,000 yacht and first class journeys to Turkey and Asia for the DeGrimstons.)

[SNIP]

By 1968 the cult had spread to the States, establishing churches in New York, Boston, New Orleans, Los Angeles and San Francisco. They also canvased Europe; in Germany they sent representatives to the neo-Nazi NPD.

Always in search of intensity, Nazi chic attracted them. In Haight-Ashbury they visited the offices of the San Francisco Oracle, hoping to bring the underground newspaper over to the cause. The Oracle was too busy hyping the coming Age of Aquarius to give Satan much time. They paid a visit to the Black Pope, Anton LaVey, head of the Church of Satan, but he had no use for them either.

They set up a church at 407 Cole Street. Their neighbour at 636 Cole was someone who would cause them a lot of grief in a year or so. His name was Charles Manson, soon to become the head of the Family responsible for the gruesome Tate-Labianca murders in August of 1969.

[SNIP]

Sanders claimed that the Process more or less taught Charlie everything he knew. Sanders made connections. Both Charlie and the DeGrimstons were into Scientology. In 1968 Charlie sent Family member Bruce Davis to visit Process headquarters in London; while there Davis, too, had a brief stint with Scientology. Two Processeans visited Manson in jail; Manson later contributed a stream-of-unconsciousness rant for the Process "Death" issue, calling death "total awareness, closing the circle, bringing the soul to now." DeGrimston wrote of Satan and Christ coming together; to those in the know, that was just another name for Charlie.

The Process was keen on the Nazis. Manson carved a swastika in his forehead that bore a resemblance to the Process insignia.

[SNIP]

In 1968, the House of Commons enacted policy to restrict the growth of Scientology. The Process was hit by this when American recruits weren’t allowed into England, immigration officials figuring that one cult is as bad as another. DeGrimston sent his flock to the continent.

Possible Manson Connection to Zodiac

Possible Manson Connection to Zodiac Note from CharlieManson.com: The following article doesn't mention it, but William Mentzer was a major character in the book "The Ultimate Evil." Mentzer supposedly knew Charles Manson around 1969 (probably through Mama Cass Elliot). He was also referred to as "Manson II" in the same book. He was also the subject of the book "Bad Company."

Somewhat related, Howard Davis has long contended there was a connection in his book "The Zodiac/Manson Connection." He fingered Bruce Davis as the Zodiac killer, though.

This Man Could Be Frisco's Fiendish Zodiac Killer

By Jamie Schram

Monday, September 29, 2003

New York Post

The notorious San Francisco Zodiac Killer, who mysteriously dropped out of sight almost 30 years ago after a bloody reign of terror that left five dead, may have been "hiding" in plain sight - locked away in prison for two unrelated murders.

A Post investigation unearthed "compelling" links between 54-year-old killer William Mentzer - who's serving life without the possibility of parole - and the police profile of the Zodiac Killer, the San Francisco District Attorney's Office says.

[SNIP]

The Post discovered two dozen links between Mentzer, who is from Los Angeles, and the Zodiac Killer.

[SNIP]

Mentzer is serving a life sentence for the savage L.A. murders of New York theatrical producer Roy Radin in 1983 and of prostitute June Mincher in 1984.

Ed Sanders, The Family, 1990 edition, Chapter 27, p. 462

In October [1979] there appeared a widely noted newspaper article by long-time Manson family chronicler Mary Neiswender about a possible alliance between the M group and the Symbionese Liberation Army to raise money for an escape from prison. Neiswender quoted Sacramento police detectives as estimating that Manson family members and SLA associates in jail had accumulated about $1.5 million over the last two years with a sophisticated credit-card scam in California, Oregon, Nevada and Arizona.

Squeaky and Sara Jane From Newsweek, November 8, 1976

On Sept. 5, 1975, one of cult murderer Charles Manson's female disciples aimed a .45-caliber pistol at President Ford outside the Statehouse in Sacramento, Calif., and pulled the trigger. Fortunately, though there were four bullets in the clip, the firing chamber was empty. Secret Service men pounced on Lynette (Squeaky) Fromme. But barely two weeks later, on another Presidential visits to California, another woman—a quasi-radical bookkeeper who had once served as an FBI informant—also waited in ambush with a concealed handgun. As Ford strode from a San Francisco hotel to his waiting limousine, Sara Jane Moore fired a single wild shot before being disarmed and seized.

ABCNEWS.com : PrimeTime: Who is Sara Jane Olson? Transcript

Sara Jane Olson finds herself in a kind of time warp these days, defending her actions a quarter century ago when she had a different name, Kathleen Soliah, and the world was different, too. . .It was middle America’s worst nightmare. . .It was back in the early ’70s in the San Francisco Bay area when small bands of urban guerrillas engaged in terrorism. None was more notorious than the Symbionese Liberation Army, the SLA. . .And Kathleen Soliah would find herself caught up in the turmoil. At Berkeley, where she studied acting, Soliah says she developed a close friendship with Angela Atwood, and through her met others who would later form the SLA.

110 posted on 03/26/2004 10:17:49 AM PST by Fedora
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To: Sabertooth
Duly noted for future reference. Count me in the list, Sabertooth...
112 posted on 03/26/2004 11:02:59 AM PST by dandelion
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To: Sabertooth
save.
120 posted on 03/29/2004 8:39:09 AM PST by Barset
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