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Russia Aids Kosovo Refugees, West Remains Out of Touch
BALKANALYSIS ^ | March 25 , 2004 | CDeliso

Posted on 03/25/2004 8:16:52 PM PST by MarMema

"You can count on aid and support from Russia," promised President Vladimir Putin to the people of Serbia Tuesday. While many other international leaders have voiced their support for Serbia in the wake of the recent Albanian ethnic cleansing of Serbs from Kosovo, only Russia has so far backed up its words with actions.

Out of all the great 'humanitarian' nations of Europe and America, Russia alone has taken the initiative to deliver tangible aid to the refugees driven from their homes one week ago. As Serbia marked the fifth anniversary of NATO's air attacks yesterday, the Russian government began its emergency dispatch of humanitarian aid for Kosovo Serb refugees- the final victims of a long and bitter tragedy not of their own making.

Two Ilyushin-76 transport jets containing tents, beds, bed linen, and lighting devices took off yesterday from Russia, with two more expected to leave for Belgrade tomorrow, reports Itar-Tass. On the planes will also be transported ".a mobile hospital with the capacity for giving medical aid to about 600 patients a day." In addition, a convoy of 10 trucks containing tents, blankets and mattresses is on the way.

Russian Emergency Situations Minister Sergei Shoigu visited a refugee camp in Pancevo on Tuesday, and expressed his country's astonishment at "the world community's placid reaction to the annihilation of Serbian churches in Kosovo."

"It goes beyond a mere destruction of buildings," Shoigu charged. "It was an attempt to wipe out from the face of the earth, from human memory and from history the things that had been there [in the land of Kosovo] for centuries."

In contrast, the response from the West has been far more muted. While righteous condemnations and statements of sympathy have trickled in over the past week from the US, Britain, Germany and others, these have seemed largely uninspired and unsympathetic to the Serbian position on both the pogrom and the provinces final status. And so blowhards like Richard Holbrooke continue demanding Kosovo's independence, something which is reiterated by Albanian leaders and other supporters of their cause. Yet shouting that 'only independence will stop the violence' has the unpleasant ring of a ransom pronounced by terrorists or kidnappers: 'pay up now or your boy gets it!'

Of course, this has been the operating logic throughout the past decades of Albanian separatism in both Kosovo and Macedonia. In every case, a provocation followed by a protest followed by mob violence and terrorism; the quintessential gunboat diplomacy more befitting great powers.

At first, those selfsame Great Powers did not decry these methods as perfected by the Albanian KLA. That's because they were on 'their side.' Perhaps they thought that once the war was won, Serbia bombed and UN administrators went in, the aggressive and well-armed young men who'd spent the previous decades planning how to take power for themselves violently would just melt away, cheerfully re-enlist in the ranks of the peaceful, and perhaps take up a useful hobby such as gardening.

One marvels at the West's total inability to comprehend local realities and local power struggles before committing to war and its inevitable aftermath. To be sure, there were many top leaders who did understand what was going to happen, but they in all likelihood weren't planning to be anywhere near Kosovo, except for the obligatory post-war baby-kissing promenades. On the highest levels, the Kosovo bombing seems to have been motivated very little by real humanitarian concerns, and most of all by a cynical pragmatism determined to sever the Balkans into smaller and thus more 'manageable' pieces. However, Kosovo is beyond management, and the Albanians know it.

This is their trump card: the understanding that the UN and NATO forces are not prepared to die for the values they claim are mandatory for the province. In the long run, the occupiers will be driven out, panicking and covered with blood.

Thus all the outraged comments by the spokesmen for the West take on a rather farcical tone. For example, former Kosovo boss Michael Steiner declared that the international community "cannot tolerate and will not tolerate" ethnically-motivated violence such as occurred last week. And EU Foreign Policy chief Javier Solana also declared that the Kosovo Albanian parties are in need of a "purging." We're sure he plans to purge them himself.

After Solana waxed eloquent regarding the need for tolerance, a Serb man, "pointing to burned houses in the distance, shouted: 'This is your Western politics.'" Indeed.

Michael Steiner is perhaps the archetype of the UN-bureaucrat in Kosovo: an upwardly mobile, overpaid foreigner in the colonial bureaucracy, who promulgated many decrees, married his much younger local assistant, and left soon thereafter. The domiciles of the peacekeepers back home are littered with Kosovo's escaped young women (and, in a few cases, young men). As if watching the frivolous foreign courtships unfolding every day wasn't irksome enough for them, the locals have also experienced their share of suffering at the hands of their benefactors: to wit, the sergeant and the girl, or the maiden and the Egyptian, among others.

No, Steiner symbolizes the sheer banality of the cumulative Western effort these past 5 years. The continual solution to Kosovo has been to defer, defer, to keep staving off the inevitable for as long as possible. The occupiers learned that eventually, the centrifugal pressures at work would cause a violent explosion, aimed against the well-meaning West. The strategy, therefore, has been to defer the final bloodbath until sometime after one's contract has expired, and the hot potato has been handed off to the next generation of peacekeepers.

Now, here at the end of the line, we can't really expect the Great Powers to apologize, or even accept any part of the blame for this fiasco. Javier Solana now blames the people of Kosovo, and not the colonial administration, for everything. That said, in consideration of the massive outpouring of aid and refugee relocations the world gave 5 years ago to Kosovo's Albanian refugees, is it too much to ask of them to follow Russia's lead and pitch in?

In this case, the lack of interest shown by the world for the plight of the Serbian refugees is a fairly astonishing (Sergei Shoigu indeed had the right word for it) proof of what the limits of political correctness will allow. Indeed, considering that the Western media has spent over a decade incessantly declaring that the Serbs are sub-human, imagining now that they might actually be normal people is proving difficult. Surely, guilty parties will protest that this is an outrageous lie; but the bias, so subtle and so pervasive, effectively precludes not only sympathy but support. And so the rhetoric of Western media reports has proven feeble, guarded, unsympathetic- shocked not by the horror of mass murder but by the possibility that anyone but Serbs could have been behind it.

Given that they clearly want to avoid all attempts at 'revising' the history of the conflict, the powers-that-be can only hope that the rest of the pogrom be nasty, brutish and short. Their lives can then go on untroubled, physically and mentally distant from the savage hypocrisy that was Kosovo.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: balkans; kosovo; orthodox; refugees; serbia
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If it were not so painful to see my churches burned, if it were not so painful to see my Orthodox brethren suffering, I could and would sit back and say "Ha. We told you so."

I do love the line above about expecting the KLA to become gardeners. I think this may be the most well-written piece yet. Touche!

1 posted on 03/25/2004 8:16:52 PM PST by MarMema
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To: katnip; FormerLib; kosta50; wonders; cyborg; joan; Destro; RussianConservative; RusIvan; ...
Hope I didn't miss anyone who wanted to be included ping.
2 posted on 03/25/2004 8:24:35 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: katnip
In the long run, the occupiers will be driven out, panicking and covered with blood.

Then, let Russia, Italy, and Greece help the Serbs return Kosovo to the Serbs. And the Czechs if they want to help out.
Romania and Bulgaria would be wise to throw in a helping hand, if for no other reason than stability and less heroin in their immediate neighborhood.

4 posted on 03/25/2004 8:26:52 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: Karl Laforce
Happy to. Thanks for asking!
5 posted on 03/25/2004 8:27:23 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: MarMema
BTTT
6 posted on 03/25/2004 8:29:35 PM PST by cyborg (my profile page speaks for itself)
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To: MarMema
I'd appreciate being on your ping list.
7 posted on 03/25/2004 8:30:37 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: All
Again the idea as I see it: Send a check for $100 to something or other which will help these people (Serbs) and put at least some Americans on record as having done it, and then send a letter to George and Carl explaining why you no longer have that hundred dollars to send to them.

If republicans can be made to comprehend that continuing these clintoniata policies is hurting them in the pocketbook, there might be hope.

Where is the best place to send aide here? I'd assume the Serbian Unity Conference in the absence of other info.

Suggestions anybody?

8 posted on 03/25/2004 8:35:35 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: greenwolf
Funny you should ask....I just emailed a priest at Saint Sava in Wakefield, Mass. With a similar idea.

I think the best would be to send it through SANE. I'll look for it and get back to you. We collected here for them after the bombing and they sent containers into Serbia. They did a great job with low overhead.

9 posted on 03/25/2004 8:47:14 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: greenwolf
SANE is the group we used for our donations and collections a few years back.

Here is the home of Fr Aleksandr, whom I loved, and with whom we worked in the Seattle area to send help to Serbia a few years back. Fr Aleksandr personally went to Kosovo several times to help with the containers.

You can read about them on the SANE page under past projects....

Just my suggestion.

10 posted on 03/25/2004 8:52:56 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: MarMema
If Russia wants to do something great for the first time in 50 years...they should tell the peacekeepers to get the hell out, go in and do the extremely nasty business that needs to be done there and then leave without showing any pride or shame. When all is said and done, there will either be Serbs there or there will be Muslims there...not both. Illusions of peace and harmony equal quagmire forever.

Russia would have to be the one who does this, the US can't for the obvious reason that we are at war and already spread thin.
11 posted on 03/25/2004 8:53:37 PM PST by Jim_Curtis (Free Milosevic.....Jail Annan)
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To: greenwolf
Send a check for $100 to something or other which will help these people

By the way, I am in for $100 too. And the letter. A great idea, thanks. Let's all coordinate and send them to the same location, where ever we decide....

Anyone else?

12 posted on 03/25/2004 8:54:29 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: All
Also this address accepts donations of clothing, non-perishable, lightweight food, blankets, etc.

Please send clothes, hygenic supplies, blankets, canned food to:
St. George Church
65 South Keel Ridge Rd.
Hermitage, PA 16148
tel. 724-342-2600 (Fr. Svetislav Mirolovich)

In the past we have done shoe boxes. A shoe box has in it a postcard from your location with a brief note of support. Add a bar of soap, a toothbrush, toothpaste, a dried fruit bar or other easy to ship candy item, socks, a bag of peanuts, a washcloth perhaps, a small toy for a child....you can get really creative with this and they are inexpensive and easy to mail.
We shipped out about 500 of these babies to Fr Aleksandr just after the bombing. Each local Orthodox church had teen groups get together and make them. It's a terrific church activity.

13 posted on 03/25/2004 9:10:55 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: RussianConservative; katnip
Here's some Russian aid from last time around...


14 posted on 03/25/2004 9:29:45 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: Jim_Curtis
As one previous posted on another thread said...the Albanians already have a country. It is Albania.

15 posted on 03/25/2004 9:58:23 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: MarMema
What about that organization which I read about on a thread yesterday. It was called IOCC. It is in Maryland. I would send a check to them.

I sent a bunch of boxes to our troops in Iraq. POSTAGE IS HORRID!

I would think donating money is more cost efective.

16 posted on 03/26/2004 1:34:33 AM PST by Lion in Winter (I ain't no pussy cat... don't mess with me... ya hear! GRRRRRRrrr)
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To: MarMema
Pesma

Kradu mi pamcenje
Skracuju mi proslost
Otimaju vekove
Dzamijaju crkve
Araju azbuku
Cekicaju grobove
Izdiru temelj
Razmecu kolijevku.
Uzimaju mi ono
Sto nikome nisam uzeo
Moje lavre i prestonice
ne znam sta je moje
Ni gde mi je granica
Narod mi je u najmu i rasejanju
Pale mi tapije
I zatiru postojanstvo.
Zrtveno polje sa krvavom travom
Ne smem da kazem da je moje
Ne daju mi da udjem u kucu
Kazu da sam je prodao
Zemlju koju sam od neba kupio
Neko im je obecao.
Ko im je obecao
taj ih je slagao
Sto im ne obeca
Ono sto je njegovo?
Zato jurisaju na mene udruzeni
Kivni sto sam ih poznao.

Matija Beckovic


Poem

Matija BECKOVIC *

They are stealing my memory
Curtailing my past
Snatching the centuries
Turning churches into mosques
Gutting the script
Pummeling the graves
Ripping out the foundation
Overturning the cradle

They take from me that
which I have taken from no one
My treasuries and capitals
I know not what is mine
Nor where my borders lie
My people are yoked and bestrewn
They are burning my deeds
And eradicating my existence

The field of martyrs with its blood-soaked grass
I dare not say is mine
They stop me from entering my home
Saying I sold it
The land I purchased from heaven
Was promised by someone to them
Whoever made that promise
Lied to them
Why does he not promise them
That which is his?
That is why they assail me in unison
Furious that I recognized them.

* Matija Beckovic (1939)
Serbian poet and academican

Matija Beckovic:

Ils volent tout
Ils volent ma mémoire
Effaçant mon passé
Volant les siècles
Transformant les églises en mosquées
Arrachant l'alphabet
Pilonnant les tombes
Déchirant les fondations
Retournant le landau.
Ils me prennent
Ce que je n'ai pris à personne
Mes trésors et capitales
Je ne sais pas ce qui est mien
Ni où sont mes frontières
Mon peuple est asservi et dispersé
Ils brûlent mes titres de propriété
Et exterminent mon existence.
Le champ des martyrs avec son herbe ensanglantée
Je n'ose même pas dire que c'est le mien
Ils ne me laissent pas entrer dans ma maison
Ils disent que je l'ai vendue
La terre que j'avais achetée au ciel
Quelqu'un la leur a promise.
Celui qui la leur a promise
Leur a menti
Pourquoi ne leur a-t-il pas promis
Quelque chose qui lui appartenait ?
Voilà pourquoi ils m'attaquent ensemble
Furieux que je les aie reconnus.
Matija (Mathieu) Beckovic
(poète et académicien serbe né en 1939)
17 posted on 03/26/2004 2:05:27 AM PST by AncientAirs
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To: Lion in Winter
What about that organization which I read about on a thread yesterday. It was called IOCC. It is in Maryland. I would send a check to them.

Don't give to them. The money will be diluted to help other causes in that organization. If you search their website you'll see they give to Palestinian (Muslims) and other non-Orthodox Christians. Little, if nothing, of what you send will reach the Serbs.

18 posted on 03/26/2004 4:53:16 AM PST by joan
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To: MarMema
No one thinks that 30 years from now the world cituation will be soemthing completely different. Just think of the world in 1974, and then 1944...

People are myopic. They treat they moment of glory (basically form their 30's to to their 60's, an insignificant period of human history) as something that will forever be remembered. Truth is, 99.99% of human endevour is in oblivion. HUman priorities are pittifully childish.

Those who bask in tirumph in Kosovo now are the most myopic.

19 posted on 03/26/2004 7:03:21 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
they moment = their moment
20 posted on 03/26/2004 7:04:35 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Lion in Winter
I would think donating money is more cost efective.

It is. But getting cards and personal things from Americans is very nice for the Serbs. Fr. Aleksandr told me it meant a great deal to them. He said they asked him often in the camps what Americans thought about them.

21 posted on 03/26/2004 7:31:04 AM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: Jim_Curtis
Russia would have to be the one who does this, the US can't for the obvious reason that we are at war and already spread thin.

Russia is at war also and may be spread thin. It is hard to fight the islamonazi plague everywhere at once.

22 posted on 03/26/2004 7:42:39 AM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: MarMema
A shoe box has in it a postcard from your location with a brief note of support. Add a bar of soap, a toothbrush, toothpaste, a dried fruit bar or other easy to ship candy item, socks, a bag of peanuts, a washcloth perhaps, a small toy for a child....you can get really creative with this and they are inexpensive and easy to mail.

I'm glad you sent socks, MarMema. Seriously. I decided long ago that if I ever win the lottery or something, I'll found a charity to provide socks and underwear to refugees. It's what they really need, and no one ever sends any! I actually made underwear of sorts for refugees once out of felt which had been donated for school classrooms. Well, there were no school classrooms functioning, and these poor refugees desperately needed underwear -- especially something to wear while their own undies were being washed and dried. I didn't have anything to make socks out of :(

Hygiene items are also good to send. I was so happy when the Spanish sent us hygiene packs with soap, toothbrush, toothpaste, small washcloth, small towel, disposable razor, and feminine hygiene products (you know -- and the grannies used them as "Depends"). These items are also often overlooked in donations for refugees. You get food and clothing, but no socks, underwear or hygiene items.

Soap is really important. They can use it not only to wash their bodies, but also their hair and clothes and the men can use it for shaving.

Thanks for the address! I'll go make some boxes now...

23 posted on 03/26/2004 7:45:50 AM PST by wonders (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: wonders
You reminded me! Shampoo. Protein bars. We sent those too. And we did send underwear but I wasn't going to post it. :-)

I am going to liturgy soon here and will talk to our priest about this. I sure would like to see some steam come rolling in on this idea....Thanks for sending shoeboxes!

We'll make some in our family too and send them. My four kids are experienced at this.:-)

24 posted on 03/26/2004 8:03:58 AM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: joan
Thank you for the information. OK then, I will send a check or money order to the Priest that Marmema spoke about.
25 posted on 03/26/2004 8:53:26 AM PST by Lion in Winter (I ain't no pussy cat... don't mess with me... ya hear! GRRRRRRrrr)
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To: greenwolf; Jim_Curtis; kosta50; MarMema; Destro
MM, thanks for the ping. Good Idea about diverting your partisan budget to Serbia - with a loud explanation...

One more note: The real purpose of Kosovo is to serve as "hot button" for global destabilization. The US gov controls it. The politicians of both parties are complicit along with their media masters. More grassroots noise helps. Even if you don't send to the Serbs, don't give any political donations to the major parties until the US troops are withdrawn from Kosovo (loudly explained). Make no mistake, the "hot button" politics is entirely responsible for 9/11 and has the potential to destroy the US Independence too.
26 posted on 03/26/2004 9:17:26 AM PST by CrucifiedTruth (The Crucified Truth lives forever.)
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To: joan
I think we need a little more info before sending donations. I do not know the ins and outs of which Orthodox Charity is doing what, but I really want to make sure the donation gets to the Serbians who live in Kosovo.

The info from Marmema may be dated. So, if somebody who knows the Church organizations,etc. could provide us with some up to date information, I would certainly enjoy making a donation in memory of a loved one.

Thanx for any help you may provide.
27 posted on 03/26/2004 11:03:16 AM PST by Lion in Winter (I ain't no pussy cat... don't mess with me... ya hear! GRRRRRRrrr)
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To: CrucifiedTruth
al querda is responsible for 9/11. Not the US govt.
28 posted on 03/26/2004 11:05:18 AM PST by Lion in Winter (I ain't no pussy cat... don't mess with me... ya hear! GRRRRRRrrr)
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To: Lion in Winter; joan; All
I asked my priest to look into it this morning. He is talking with the priest at the local Serbian church regularly, he said, and he will ask. Then I will post any info I come up with.
29 posted on 03/26/2004 12:56:50 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: wonders
See my last post and hold off for now. :-)
30 posted on 03/26/2004 12:57:17 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: MarMema
Will do. I'd ask at my local Orthodox Church, but they're all Greek.
31 posted on 03/26/2004 1:08:34 PM PST by wonders (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: Lion in Winter
al querda is responsible for 9/11

You mean Clinton did everything right?
32 posted on 03/26/2004 1:16:56 PM PST by CrucifiedTruth (The Crucified Truth lives forever.)
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To: wonders; Lion in Winter
I also sent this email to the person listed for questions at the SANE site, and will post any replies I get.

Dear Zoran,

Greetings in Christ!

Please inform me if you can of an address to which can be sent monetary assistance for the Serbian people who have lost everything they were forced to leave behind.

Also please let me know if there is a way I can send monetary assistance to the monks of Devic for the restoration work they are planning.

Does SANE have a fund set aside yet for the refugees from the last attacks?

Finally can you tell me if anyone is planning to ship a container again to Kosovo? I would be interested in helping to fill it, if so.

Thank you,

Your sister in Christ,

-----------------------------------------------

Those Devic monks just blow me away. They were nearly killed and lost the entire monastery. They told the Germans, who did nothing to protect the monastery, that they want to return now, and will sleep in tents as they rebuild. I have to find a way to send them something. They are an inspiration.

33 posted on 03/26/2004 1:21:34 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: MarMema
Please let us know if packages for containers are wanted or where would be a good place to send money. I will put up a poster about it at my OCA church. We've been praying for our Serbian brothers and sisters, I'd like to see if we can do a little more.
34 posted on 03/26/2004 2:04:55 PM PST by katnip
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To: Lion in Winter
Thanks for the work you did and the discovery that the info I posted is from some time ago, apparently.

We'll get something here for those who want to help soon, between us. God willing!

35 posted on 03/26/2004 2:06:50 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: MarMema
I'd like to be put on this list, please.
36 posted on 03/26/2004 2:39:02 PM PST by scoopscandal
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To: MarMema
I do love the line above about expecting the KLA to become gardeners.

I don't think that Neanderthals have been know for horticulture or agriculture. Just meat-eating, cannibalism, and headhunting!!!!

Besides asking where the governments of the "humanitarian" nations of the "West" are in terms of giving aid, we need to ask where the "Western" mainline churches are. After all, all of them gave MASSIVE amounts of aid to Kosovo Shiptars, and to "rebuild Kosovo" (i.e., to build the unjust and unsustainable structures of an "indpendent" Shiptar-run "Kosova".) Those of us in American "mainline", evangelical Protestant, or Roman Catholic churches need to hold their leaders' (or mis-leaders') feet to the fire until the aid for the Serbs is forthcoming.

37 posted on 03/26/2004 3:00:58 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia!)
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To: CrucifiedTruth
You!! ENOUGH OF YOU ALREADY AND WHAT YOU THINK!!

There are those of us who want to help THE VICTIMS... I am not interested in anything else you have to say... UNLESS IT IS THAT WILL BE SENDING MONEY $$$$$ TO Help us, HELP THOSE IN NEED IN KOSOVO!!!!

Got it, bub??? No time for you. BYE, BYE!!

38 posted on 03/26/2004 3:06:24 PM PST by Lion in Winter (I ain't no pussy cat... don't mess with me... ya hear! GRRRRRRrrr)
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To: MarMema
Great letter!!

I will out of town for a day or two. I will ck back with you her on FR.

Please keep us posted as to what to do about donations.

I will ask some friends this weekend for some help too.

39 posted on 03/26/2004 3:10:51 PM PST by Lion in Winter (I ain't no pussy cat... don't mess with me... ya hear! GRRRRRRrrr)
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To: Lion in Winter
...Assorted screams...

It looks like I've pushed a hot button...

...$$$$$...

Giving a man a fish is good. I'm not arguing that part. But if he doesn't learn the truth too - he'll become a common beggar.
40 posted on 03/26/2004 3:52:49 PM PST by CrucifiedTruth (The Crucified Truth lives forever.)
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To: AncientAirs
Thank you for posting this.
41 posted on 03/27/2004 1:11:11 AM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: MarMema; CrucifiedTruth; Jim_Curtis; kosta50; Destro; joan; Lion in Winter; RussianConservative
Email inquiries to Serbian orthodox church officers in America have produced the following reply as to places to send aid for the refugees of Kosovo:

Two places to send money:

St. Sava Church Relief Fund
33 W. Water St
Wakefield, MA 01880  (for Kosovo Refugees)
 
Decani Monastery Relief Fund
C/O Veljko Sikirica
4 West Hill Street
Baltimore, MD 21230
USA
Here is Web site for this Fund. You can contact Fr. Serfes for more information.

Like I say, I would advise people to send a check to one of these places and then send a copy of the article above about Russians alone trying to help the refugees from Kosovo to the RNC, explaining that this continuation of clintonian and anti-Christian policies is forcing you to send money to orthodox charities which would otherwise be available for the RNC.

I plan to send the latest envelope from George and Carl back with a check for $20 along with the article and a note explaining that it would have been a hundred other than for the BS policies in the balkans.

42 posted on 03/27/2004 9:15:16 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: greenwolf; All
Here is the reply I rec'd from Fr. Aleksandr this evening. He is the priest at the first address you posted.

"Money can be sent through our parish. We basically chanell money to Church authorities in Kosovo via our Diocese.

Our address is:
St. Sava Church Relief Fund
33 W. Water St
Wakefield, MA 01880

There is also another fund for Serbian people in Kosovo. They work very closely with Bishop Artemije of Kosovo who remained to live there and share the destiny of his people.

Decani Monastery Relief Fund
C/O Veljko Sikirica
4 West Hill Street
Baltimore, MD 21230
USA

More about them you can learn at Decani Monastery Relief Fund Report : December 2000, January - February 2001

you can also contact Fr. Serfes for more info on this fund at father@fr-d-serfes.org"

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Looks like we were on the same wavelengths.

Fr. Aleksandr did say that "Bishop Artemije is coming from Kosovo to US next week". Probably to the east coast, where Fr is.

Thanks Greenwolf. I was on this but awaiting emails from people before I posted. You beat me to it! :-)

43 posted on 03/27/2004 10:15:31 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: greenwolf
I plan to send the latest envelope from George and Carl back with a check for $20 along with the article and a note explaining that it would have been a hundred other than for the BS policies in the balkans.

Ditto. Thanks for the really terrific idea, two birds with one check.

44 posted on 03/27/2004 10:16:21 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: katnip; FormerLib; The_Reader_David; OldCorps; wonders; joan; DTA; vooch
See posts above if you are interested in helping the people of Kosovo. I think we have our ducks in a row now. Ping anyone you think also may want to know how to help.
45 posted on 03/27/2004 10:18:04 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: Aliska
ping
46 posted on 03/27/2004 10:38:18 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: MarMema

[[Hope I didn't miss anyone who wanted to be included ping.]]

Dear Marmema!
Could I be? This is a very good artical.
Zinochka
47 posted on 03/29/2004 6:50:32 PM PST by zinochka (God bless President George Bush and Vladimir Putin!)
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To: MarMema
Thank You! I am SOOOO Glad I discovered Free Republic! Now I feel sort of embarrass to say I once thought I was one of very rare few who believed Clinton was bombing the WRONG people! I remember the day in 1999 the Russian tanks rolled into the airfield and the Serbian people cheered them, climbed up and kissed the Russian tankists! I was so proud to see it! Of coarse if you say so on a Liberal dominated Board you are attacted right away and they call you a Nazi or a communist! I'm sorry to say even most Conservatives on other Boards also are anti-Serbian and Russo-phobe. But Free Republic is such a breathe of fresh air, I am just still completly amazed!!!
48 posted on 03/29/2004 7:09:29 PM PST by zinochka (God bless President George Bush and Vladimir Putin!)
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To: zinochka; FormerLib; katnip; RussianConservative; RusIvan; wildandcrazyrussian
Welcome to FR, Zinochka and of course I will ping you when I post slavic writings. Especially pro-Serb.

There are a few slavophobes running around here so keep your back up and your ping list handy.

The Russian team I like is Russianconservative, rusivan, wildandcrazyrussian. And you can always ping myself or Formerlib and even katnip for support.

Ochen preyetna.

49 posted on 03/29/2004 8:14:15 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: zinochka
I remember the day in 1999 the Russian tanks rolled into the airfield and the Serbian people cheered them, climbed up and kissed the Russian tankists! I was so proud to see it!

That was indeed a very special day.

50 posted on 03/29/2004 8:15:45 PM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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