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Kerry says people are born gay
AP ^ | 26 Mar 2004

Posted on 03/26/2004 3:45:37 PM PST by Guillermo

Kerry says people are born gay

By DOUGLASS K. DANIEL
The Associated Press
3/26/04 3:49 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry says he believes people are born gay but are not guaranteed the right to marry within their own gender.

"I think it's entirely who you are from birth, personally," Kerry said in an interview to be broadcast on MTV. "Some people might choose, but I think that it's, it's who you are. I think you have ... people need to be able to be who they are."

Asked why he favors civil unions instead of marriage if people are born gay, Kerry replied: "What is distinct is the institutional name or whatever people look at as the sacrament within a church, or within a synagogue or within a mosque as a religious institution. There is a distinction. And the civil state really just adopted that, and it's the rights that are important, not the sort of ... the name of the institution."

In a transcript released Friday by MTV for its Tuesday special "Choose or Lose: 20 Million Questions for John Kerry," the presumptive Democratic nominee said he favors civil unions to give people partnership, inheritance and other rights.

"I think that people have a right in America to be who they are," Kerry said. "I believe very strongly that we can advance the cause of equality by moving toward civil union."

(Excerpt) Read more at mlive.com ...


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And the Left says the Right is anti-science...
1 posted on 03/26/2004 3:45:37 PM PST by Guillermo
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To: Guillermo

2 posted on 03/26/2004 3:49:10 PM PST by chance33_98 (Shall a living man complain? Oh how much fewer are my sufferings than my sins;)
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To: Guillermo
"I think it's entirely who you are from birth, personally,"

Well, Kerry was born to look like Herman Munster. .....and to lose a Presidential election like Walter Mondale.

3 posted on 03/26/2004 3:49:20 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Guillermo
And the Left says the Right is anti-science...

No kidding! That notion was all based upon a single study that has since been discredited...of course truth is not really required if you're on the left. Or rather, since truth is subjective, if one repeats a lie often enough it becomes truth to the left.

4 posted on 03/26/2004 3:50:05 PM PST by highlander_UW ("Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Guillermo
Watch closely for the flipflop on this one.
5 posted on 03/26/2004 3:50:29 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Guillermo
Of course, Kerry voted against the Defense of Marriage Act.

And he does not support a constitution amendment banning gay marraige.

Al Franken wrote "Lies and the lying liars who tell them". I think Kerry should be the first whole chapter, but of course Franken is perfectly comfortable with lies as long as they are liberal lies, and only have to do with sex.
6 posted on 03/26/2004 3:50:37 PM PST by I still care
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To: Guillermo
Has Kerry flip flop on gay marriage?

I suspect he has changed his mind about gay marriage and civil unions.

7 posted on 03/26/2004 3:52:59 PM PST by george wythe
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To: firebrand

8 posted on 03/26/2004 3:52:59 PM PST by chance33_98 (Shall a living man complain? Oh how much fewer are my sufferings than my sins;)
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To: Guillermo
And the Left says the Right is anti-science...

What "science" says that some people can't be born attracted to the same sex?
9 posted on 03/26/2004 3:53:05 PM PST by lelio
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To: Guillermo
"some people might choose"

"I think that its who you are"

WHICH IS IT FLIP/FLOP KERRY?????????????

If you CHOOSE it, it should get the same weight as those born that way? Can you CHOOSE to be Black? Can you CHOOSE to be physically handicapped (fat people not included)? Can you CHOOSE to be Native? No. Equal rights are for people who CAN'T choose their lot in life. SEXUAL PREFERENCE IS A CHOICE!
10 posted on 03/26/2004 3:54:04 PM PST by Integrityrocks
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To: Guillermo
"I think it's entirely who you are from birth, personally," Kerry said ...


11 posted on 03/26/2004 3:54:29 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: lelio
What science says that putting ones penis into another mans anus *isn't* a choice? (Left wing "science")
12 posted on 03/26/2004 3:54:51 PM PST by Guillermo (Your own personal Konservative Klick-Guerilla)
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To: chance33_98
That has to be one of the most jaw-dropping, appalling pictures I have EVER seen, or probably will see.

Now, are you going to pay for the rib I just broke from laughing so hard I fell off the chair? ;-)

13 posted on 03/26/2004 3:55:26 PM PST by Kieri (Who's waiting for the return of her beloved Farscape!)
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To: Guillermo
"Kerry says people are born gay"

...and he should know.

14 posted on 03/26/2004 3:56:35 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
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To: Integrityrocks
I think Kerry is just reserving the right to stick it to anybody regardless of their sex.
15 posted on 03/26/2004 3:57:59 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: chance33_98
What a lovely French pastry! And the picture in the book looks nice, too!
16 posted on 03/26/2004 3:58:56 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: chance33_98
Jean-Francois, quel est un "waffle"?
17 posted on 03/26/2004 3:59:00 PM PST by Argus (If you favor surrender to terrorism, vote Democrat.)
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To: firebrand
Watch closely for the flipflop on this one.

The way he rambled his way through, Flipper should have an easy time of it, since he kinda covered all bases.

18 posted on 03/26/2004 3:59:46 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Gay marriage is for suckers...)
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To: Guillermo
"Kerry says people are born gay."

Kerry went on to say that there is a 'foot-fetish' gene.
19 posted on 03/26/2004 4:00:20 PM PST by wolf24 ("Leave the gun. Take the cannollis.")
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To: Guillermo
"Kerry says people are born gay"

How would he know... And besides, babies are born with AIDS; does that make it OK?
20 posted on 03/26/2004 4:00:38 PM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: Guillermo
"I think it's entirely who you are from birth, personally,"

Then it must be genetic but this has been refuted in identical twin studies.
21 posted on 03/26/2004 4:02:06 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: wolf24
And, since John Wayne Gacy got his rocks off by murdering young boys, that was genetic as well...

And the guy who cheats on his wife (with prostitutes, or whoever)...that isn't a choice either.

If it feels good to you, then it must be genetic.
22 posted on 03/26/2004 4:02:16 PM PST by Guillermo (Your own personal Konservative Klick-Guerilla)
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To: Guillermo
Following his announcement Sen. Kerry went on to unveil a new instructional/campaign poster:


23 posted on 03/26/2004 4:02:53 PM PST by AreaMan
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To: Guillermo
GEE! He needs an endorsement from Algore!


24 posted on 03/26/2004 4:02:58 PM PST by BobS
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To: Guillermo
"I think it's entirely who you are from birth, personally," Kerry said in an interview

So, Miss Kerry admits (in his unique nuanced way) that he is the poster child for "born loser".

25 posted on 03/26/2004 4:04:14 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Guillermo
it's a lifestyle choice, like wearing a toupee or working out
26 posted on 03/26/2004 4:05:11 PM PST by petercooper (I actually did vote for the $87 Billion, before I voted against it.)
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To: Guillermo
As was he.
27 posted on 03/26/2004 4:05:14 PM PST by manic4organic (An organic conservative)
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To: Guillermo
Kerry got the idea after attending a banquet with Wesley Clark:


28 posted on 03/26/2004 4:07:07 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (All the good taglines are taken.)
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To: babygene
"President Bush supports a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, a measure Kerry opposes on the grounds that marriage is a state issue"

Making a note that Kerry supports state's rights over federalism.

I bet that'll last.

Geez, why can't the man just say what he believes? Say he's against the ammendment because he's for gay rights. Why so cowardly? This is a leader?
29 posted on 03/26/2004 4:07:57 PM PST by HarryCaul
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To: BobS
Holy crap, that pic is hilarious.
30 posted on 03/26/2004 4:07:58 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (All the good taglines are taken.)
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To: Guillermo
And gay men's mothers are almost always born dominators who are very close to their sons and gay men's fathers are almost always born emotionally distant to the point that their sons can't bond with the male role model they should bond with.

Besides, doesn't it take a village to raise a gay child?
31 posted on 03/26/2004 4:08:12 PM PST by Semi Civil Servant
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To: Guillermo
Listen, I've seen a lot of births on TV, and one in person. There ain't nuttin' gay about that screaming little person until the first feeding. Or the first nap.

I mean just look at that scrunched-up face, all red and angry. That's anything but gay.

("What? Gay like in homosexual? . . . . Never mind.")

32 posted on 03/26/2004 4:09:20 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Kieri
Have more on my profile page, and will hopefully get an even more disturbing one done tonight :)
33 posted on 03/26/2004 4:10:10 PM PST by chance33_98 (Shall a living man complain? Oh how much fewer are my sufferings than my sins;)
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To: Guillermo
so if a gay and a nongay marry and have a child, is the child half-gay? which side supercedes the other? .. i wonder if Flipper ever thinks before he talks?


34 posted on 03/26/2004 4:10:50 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it.)
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To: Guillermo
"I think people have a right in America to be who they are"

This sounds like a man NAMBLA can really get behind.
35 posted on 03/26/2004 4:15:11 PM PST by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: InvisibleChurch
If the urge to shun women and prefer another mans anus was genetic, wouldn't evolution had of eliminated that gene???

Left wingers never let science get in the way of ideology (homosexuality is genetic, humans are causing global warming, acid rain, ad nauseum).
36 posted on 03/26/2004 4:16:16 PM PST by Guillermo (Your own personal Konservative Klick-Guerilla)
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To: Guillermo
If Kerry Believes that people are born gay, then people also must be born being petaphiles and poligamists! Lets see how far this science flys!
37 posted on 03/26/2004 4:18:06 PM PST by Bommer (John Kerry = War Criminal!)
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To: Bommer
... and born conservatives ... that should drive him mad
38 posted on 03/26/2004 4:28:21 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it.)
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To: Guillermo
I remember a medical article about a guy who had a reaction to some hormone medication. Where it gave him sexual urges that were different than how he usually was (I don't remember if he wa straight or homosexual). I wondered if it is something that supposedly happens at birth and has to do with hormone imbalance, why are so many opposed to having some way to balance those hormones?
39 posted on 03/26/2004 4:31:27 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Guillermo

40 posted on 03/26/2004 4:35:16 PM PST by Just Another Lurker (I'll go back to sitting in my corner now)
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To: Guillermo
"I think it's entirely who you are from birth, personally," Kerry said in an interview to be broadcast on MTV. "Some people might choose, but I think that it's, it's who you are. I think you have ... people need to be able to be who they are."

I'm voting for Kerry. After all, I was born a thief and rapist, and I know he'll stand up for my right to be who I was born to be.

41 posted on 03/26/2004 4:49:53 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: Guillermo
BTTT
42 posted on 03/26/2004 5:01:34 PM PST by GrandMoM (GOD is working in secret, behind the scenes even when it looks like nothing will ever change! JM)
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To: GrandMoM
If one is born gay, then a natal gene test should be the basis for abortion of the fetus. (sarcasm off)
43 posted on 03/26/2004 5:06:12 PM PST by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: Guillermo
Kerry can't even keep his lies about gays straight. Here's what he said just a few weeks ago:

He continued: "The only point I want to make to you is, I've talked to enough people — some of whom fought for their country in war — and I've talked to many of them who didn't discover their own sexuality until they were 35, 40 years old, and it wasn't because they made a choice, it was because they found out who they were."

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1092883/posts

If you're born gay, as he claims in the above article, would it really take you 20-25 years past the age of puberty to figure it out?

44 posted on 03/26/2004 5:15:41 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: Guillermo
Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry says he believes people are born gay but are not guaranteed the right to marry within their own gender.

Believe it or not, that is probably the only truthful statement Kerry has made in the entire campaign.

Ask any heterosexual if he was born that way. The answer will be, "Yes! I love having sex with women."

Ask any homosexual if he was born that way. The answer will be, "Yes! I love having sex with men."

End of arguement.

45 posted on 03/26/2004 5:20:34 PM PST by vox humana
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Let's suppose that people are born gay.

I was born with a tendency to strangle anyone who displeased me.

Did that make it right?

Fortunately I had parents who raised me right. I have never strangled anyone who displeased me.

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Wait for it.

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NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY MAY HAVE DESERVED IT!!!!!!!

46 posted on 03/26/2004 5:22:09 PM PST by LibKill (The right to own weapons IS the right to be free.)
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To: Guillermo
Let's be honest. Some people are born gay, others are on the fence and could happily be straight. Others choose to be gay for reasons of their own, including political, or the effects of abuse, untreated by proper counseling. More lesbians tend to fall into the latter category, while most gay men I have known seem to be irrevocably and unintentionally gay.
47 posted on 03/26/2004 5:23:41 PM PST by Beelzebubba (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Guillermo; Eaker
"I think that people have a right in America to be who they are," Kerry said

What if I are a right-wing gun nut???

48 posted on 03/26/2004 5:23:57 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner
What if I are a right-wing gun nut???

ROTFLMAO!

Then you should not be allowed to marry another right-wing gun nut!

49 posted on 03/26/2004 5:30:11 PM PST by vox humana
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To: Just Another Lurker
I suspect that T. Kennedy has filled him in.....on what the whole gay thing is about.
50 posted on 03/26/2004 5:30:56 PM PST by Gator113
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