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Kerry challenges Bush to prosecute Clarke if former anti-terrorism advisor lied - CBS
Yahoo! News ^ | 3/26/04 | AFP/Staff

Posted on 03/26/2004 4:59:32 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

NEW YORK (AFP) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry challenged President George W. Bush) to prosecute former national security aide Richard Clarke if they can show that he lied about terrorism policy.

"My challenge to the Bush administration would be, if (Clarke) is not believable and they have reason to show it, then prosecute him for perjury because he is under oath, Kerry told CBS's MarketWatch.

"They have a perfect right to do that," said Kerry.

Republicans in Congress want to declassify testimony Clarke gave before Congress in 2002 that they claim is at odds with accounts critical of the administration in the aide's recently published book.

Clarke, a counter-terrorism advisor to three presidents, published a book this week entitled "Against All Enemies: Inside America's War on Terror," in which he claims the Bush administration failed to heed warnings of the September 11, 2001 attacks and then focused its attention on Saddam Hussein) rather than al-Qaeda.

He repeated the allegations under oath in testimony before a congressional committee.

The charges prompted an aggressive response from the White House, amid apparent concerns that they could undermine the president's re-election bid in November.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2004; bringingiton; bushknew; clarkegotbusted; flipflop; georgewbush; johnfkerry; kerry; liberalmediabias; lyingliberals; perjury; richardclark; richardclarke
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1 posted on 03/26/2004 4:59:33 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
How about they also prosecute Kerry for his perjury before a Senate committee in 1971? Or has the statute of limitations run out on that pack of squalid lies?
2 posted on 03/26/2004 5:01:06 PM PST by Argus (If you favor surrender to terrorism, vote Democrat.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Kerry challenges Bush to prosecute Clarke if former anti-terrorism advisor lied
Works for me.
3 posted on 03/26/2004 5:01:34 PM PST by William McKinley
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Spoken like an @sshat who has no idea whatsoever how much he's going to regret uttering said "challenge," before all is said and done... :)
4 posted on 03/26/2004 5:01:55 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
There he goes again, playing both sides!!! Covering all bases!!!
5 posted on 03/26/2004 5:02:12 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Be careful what you wish for.
6 posted on 03/26/2004 5:03:53 PM PST by js1138
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Wonder what Clarke thinks of that show of support by Kerry? Call their bluff, Representative Porter Goss.
7 posted on 03/26/2004 5:05:39 PM PST by CedarDave (Election 2004: When Democrats attack, it's campaigning; when Republicans campaign, it's attacking.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"....has no idea whatsoever how much he's going to regret uttering said "challenge," before all is said and done...."

You are soooo right. Wow.. this guy is really taking some bad advice or else not taking good advice, but this was a REALLY stupid way of trying to work both sides of this issue. What an imbicile.
8 posted on 03/26/2004 5:05:44 PM PST by Integrityrocks
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To: William McKinley
Newt is on with Tony Snow on fox now...He says prosecute!

Its the right thing to do but will it spin as Pubbies attacking a poor lil dem during an elevtion cycle?

Best to win the war not every battle.

I think clark is a RED Herring
9 posted on 03/26/2004 5:06:17 PM PST by mylife
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To: All
"The have a perfect right to do so."

They? They? It's not a GOP prosecution. Perjury is a crime against the law. The people have a perfect right to do so. It would be The People vs. Richard Clarke.

10 posted on 03/26/2004 5:06:29 PM PST by Owen
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To: js1138
Way to go Kerry, let's turn the news story into Clark's obvious perjury. If you hadn't said anything, the liberal press would have ignored the perjury and the entire issue. By the way, it is going to be Congress, specifically Porter Goss, who will request that perjury charges be brought. Bush won't have to lift a finger-----it was perjury before Congress, which Congress has the independent authority to request DOJ to prosecute on behalf of Congress. Bring it on!
11 posted on 03/26/2004 5:06:35 PM PST by pushforbush
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"My challenge to the Bush administration would be, if (Clarke) is not believable and they have reason to show it, then prosecute him for perjury because he is under oath, Kerry told CBS's MarketWatch.

This is an empty charge. The White House itself can't "prosecute" Clark for anything! Since Kerry touts his experience as a former prosecutor, he should know that.

12 posted on 03/26/2004 5:06:37 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry challenged President George W. Bush) to prosecute former national security aide Richard Clarke if they can show that he lied about terrorism policy.

Looking forward to it.

13 posted on 03/26/2004 5:06:55 PM PST by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: Argus
"Or has the statute of limitations run out on that pack of squalid lies?"
yes

And you notice that Kerry has recently backed off his claims of "mass atrocities" that were committed by American GI's in Viet Nam.

I personally called Kerry a "bald face liar" on Laura Ingraham radio show about 3 weeks ago and that same week Kerry "backed off" those slanderous remarks.
14 posted on 03/26/2004 5:07:11 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: CedarDave
Do you think Clarke has any idea the extent to which he has been hung out to dry? I'm guessing he was promised cover for his recent allegations. Big mistake.
15 posted on 03/26/2004 5:07:25 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: mylife
Oh, I agree with you that you pick and choose your battles.

But if the Democrats are asking us to do so, by all means we should. If the evidence is there, let's get the truth out.

16 posted on 03/26/2004 5:07:39 PM PST by William McKinley
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To: EternalHope
I bet it was Clark who leaked to the press the fact that Ambassador Wilson's wife was a CIA agent!@
17 posted on 03/26/2004 5:08:21 PM PST by pushforbush
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I have a sneaking suspicion that the Dems did their homework on votes for "declassifying" and must feel safe that it won't happen, therefore, can't prove perjury. I am going to hedge my bets the Bush Administration is going to find a way to make this bite them so hard they will beg for mercy.
18 posted on 03/26/2004 5:08:35 PM PST by Integrityrocks
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To: Argus
Clarke is a two-faced, lying butt kisser. Since Clarke was so incompetent, so is Kerry. But his challenge today also proves Kerry is stupid and suffers dementia. In other words, the penultimate Democrat.
19 posted on 03/26/2004 5:08:51 PM PST by Lady Jag (It's in the bag)
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OH WELL, WE HAVE TO EAT THIS ONE.

We have to throw Condi at 60 Minutes Sunday night, and then we have to roll over and let this slide. A prosecution will wave this in the air for the whole campaign, and this week's Rasmussen numbers makes it clear this is not a winning issue. Kerry's pollsters have told him this, and he'd love to have Clarke a prominent issue all campaign long. We have to get this off the radar screen ASAP.

Back to the War On Terror and GDP growth of 5%!!!!
21 posted on 03/26/2004 5:09:31 PM PST by Owen
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To: mylife
The presumptive 'Rat Presidential nominee himself just publicly all but BEGGED us to do this.

Back in the south, where I grew up: we called that sort of thing "ground cover." :)

22 posted on 03/26/2004 5:09:38 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: pushforbush
Oh my gosh! That would be hilarious!
23 posted on 03/26/2004 5:09:47 PM PST by hobson
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

1. Rep. Christopher Shays, chairman of the Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats and International Relations, said that in June 2000 Clark told the subcommittee there was "no need for an assessment" of the terrorist threat.

Three national commissions concluded the US needed a comprehensive threat assessment and a national strategy. Shays held 20 hearings pre 9/11 and on June 28, 2000 he asked Mr. Clarke, then serving as Clinton's Special Assistant and National Coordinator, Security, Infrastructure Protection and Counterterrorism, when an all source threat assessment and strategy would be completed.

Clark answered "No assessment has been done, and there is no need for an assessment. I know the threat."

2. In 2000, the Department of Defense Worldwide Conference on Terrorism asked Mr. Clarke's assistant when a national strategy on terrorism would be completed. The assistant responded that a strategy was being developed (in 2000 - the last year of the Clinton presidency). However, no national strategy to combat terrorism was every produced during the Clinton administration.

3. 911 Commissioner Lehman noted to Clarke on Tuesday that his 15 hours of private testimony differed substantially from his public testimony. So substantially that Lehman told Clarke he couldn't believe it. As a result of that, the White House is seeking to declassify whether Clarke lied under oath.

4. On page 127 of Clarke's new book "Against All Enemies", Clarke notes that it's possible that al Qaida operatives in the Phillipes "taught Terry Nichols how to blow up the Oklahoma Federal Building." Intelligence places Nichols there on the same days as Ramzi Yousef, and "we do know that Nichols's bombs did not work before his Philippines stay and were deadly when he returned."

And yet, the Clinton administration focused exclusively on homegrown terrorists, and never talked publicly about this matter. Laurie Mylroie, formerly of the Clinton administration, and others, have since talked about the Iraqi connection to the OKC bombing frequently. Yet your news organization has been largely if not completely silent.

5. Despite Clarke's assertion that he is non-partisan, a few moments research into public records indicates that Clarke has only donated to Democrat's campaigns, never to Republicans.

I would expect a little more research on your part, and an even handed approach to the issues. I expect I will hear that the White House is attacking Clarke's credibility, although I think he has done that substantially to himself.

24 posted on 03/26/2004 5:09:54 PM PST by Peach
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To: William McKinley
Agreed, I was only pointing to the matter to spur thought as to "Is this weasel worth our Time right now"
25 posted on 03/26/2004 5:09:55 PM PST by mylife
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Don't be surprised if Clarke Bar is investigated by the Justice Department regarding testimony he made in 2002 against what he has stated this week. Either way he lied under oath!
26 posted on 03/26/2004 5:10:22 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Where was Kerry when the 'toon was caught in his own storm of lies?

Obfuscation and diversion, that's the game here.

27 posted on 03/26/2004 5:10:40 PM PST by spunkets
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To: mylife
Clarke claims to be a republican!!!!
28 posted on 03/26/2004 5:11:13 PM PST by shield (Scientific Discoveries of the century reveal GOD!!!!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Throwing Clarke to the wolves. Kerry better watch out since some of Kerry's foreign policy people may be tied up with Clarke
29 posted on 03/26/2004 5:11:27 PM PST by Mike Darancette (General - Alien Army of the Right (AAOTR))
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Kerry believes that the Reps will shoot themselves in the foot if they prosecute Clarke. It gives the Dems a martyr and keeps the story going on the front page for months. Hoipefully, the GOP will declassify Clarke's testimony to show that he lied and then let it go.
30 posted on 03/26/2004 5:11:49 PM PST by kabar
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Also see this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1105766/posts

GOP Moves to Declassify Clarke Testimony (Perjury Trap ?)
Yahoo News/AP ^ | 3/26/2004 | DAVID ESPO


Posted on 03/26/2004 12:56:27 PM PST by AMDG


Top Republicans in Congress sought Friday to declassify two-year-old testimony by former White House aide Richard Clarke, suggesting he may have lied this week when he faulted President Bush (news - web sites)'s handling of the war on terror.

"Mr. Clarke has told two entirely different stories under oath," Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said in a speech on the Senate floor.

The Tennessee Republican said he hopes Clarke's testimony in July 2002 before the House and Senate intelligence committees can be declassified. Then, he said, it can be compared with the account the former aide provided in his nationally televised appearance Wednesday before the bipartisan commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
31 posted on 03/26/2004 5:12:31 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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To: Integrityrocks
If the dems vote against declassifying, they lose. My only fear is that what clark said is too much in the realm of opinion and interpretation to qualify as perjury.

I hope the pubbies have done their homework.
32 posted on 03/26/2004 5:12:35 PM PST by js1138
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Bring it On: The Sequel
33 posted on 03/26/2004 5:12:39 PM PST by bootyist-monk (5, 4, 3, 2, 1! Thunderbirds are go!)
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To: mylife
I think that anything that keeps the topic on national security works to our advantage.
34 posted on 03/26/2004 5:12:43 PM PST by William McKinley
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To: shield
Get out!
35 posted on 03/26/2004 5:12:46 PM PST by mylife
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To: Peach
I would expect a little more research on your part, and an even handed approach to the issues.

Is addressed to me? If so: why, please...? :)

36 posted on 03/26/2004 5:12:50 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: Integrityrocks
I have a sneaking suspicion that the Dems did their homework on votes for "declassifying" and must feel safe that it won't happen, therefore, can't prove perjury.

It's a slam dunk in the House. No, the Republicans can declassify House testimony.

37 posted on 03/26/2004 5:13:08 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: William McKinley
sounds like a deal.....
how about checking O'l Botox-Johnnie on his Kansas City statements while the prosecutors are up and working ....could be a two-fer.
38 posted on 03/26/2004 5:13:23 PM PST by pointsal
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Richard Clarke is a bigot; taken down by a highly intelligent and competent conservative black woman; Condi Rice...

Those on the left, our opposition, is backing a total loser; else why all their screamming?

Hot air backing a cold horse; that's all this is... Ultimately this will blow up in their collective faces; mark my words... Clarke's so far over the top it will make the Dean rant look like kids day.

Face it folks; this is like a bomb exploding in the oppositions ranks; caused by their unmitigated hate and their desire for power; desperately reaching for anything that might help their cause.

Alas, the facts are not on their side; they bought a pig in a poke; and the electorate will see through it with clarity.

39 posted on 03/26/2004 5:13:38 PM PST by gatorgriz ("The world is full of bastards - the number ever increasing the further one gets from Missoula, MT")
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To: Owen
Huh? The Rasmussen numbers only show the ORIGINAL reaction BEFORE Clarke's credibilty has been distroyed. IMHO, you are completely wrong on this one.
40 posted on 03/26/2004 5:13:59 PM PST by hobson
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To: William McKinley
Sounds like that vacation didn't do much to clear Kerry's head. Unfortunately, no one is going to prosecute Clarke for statements about which administration had a policy, which was more aggressive, etc. All too subjective. But I agree it was stupid of Kerry to step into this. IF the republicans can articulate why he's being irresponsible, and to confront him with Clarke's lies. BUT republicans seldom know how to close that deal with thwe public.
41 posted on 03/26/2004 5:14:13 PM PST by Williams
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Oops - I'm so sorry, Kent.

That was a letter I sent to the networks and I forgot to take the ending off.
42 posted on 03/26/2004 5:14:35 PM PST by Peach
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To: Baynative
Goss is retiring at the end of this term, so he doesn't have anything to lose by pursuing this. I just hope others will join him and nail this liar.
43 posted on 03/26/2004 5:14:35 PM PST by CedarDave (Election 2004: When Democrats attack, it's campaigning; when Republicans campaign, it's attacking.)
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To: kellynla
personally called Kerry a "bald face liar"

should've called him a melting face liar

44 posted on 03/26/2004 5:14:59 PM PST by knak
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
This is actually a clever move for Kerry.

-he keeps Clarke on the front pages
-he looks like he's on the side of law & order
-he's not interested in this just for scandal-mongering, he wants to get to the bottom of things!
-a prosecution would force one set of statements, or the other, of Clarke, to be considered a "lie". Kerry's betting it would be the statements Clarke made while working for Bush. A Bush admin. member convicted of lying.

One of the more intelligent moves I've seen on Kerry's part. So far I've been less than impressed with Kerry, but after all there must be a reason he's hung around the Senate doing nothing for so many years....

45 posted on 03/26/2004 5:15:10 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Integrityrocks
I have a sneaking suspicion that the Dems did their homework on votes for "declassifying" and must feel safe that it won't happen, therefore, can't prove perjury.

With a Republican majority in the House of Representatives, as well as a sitting Republican President: the very LAST thing I'm worried about, right now, is difficulties in getting things decently declassified. :)

46 posted on 03/26/2004 5:15:54 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Kerry is the one turning this campaign into ugliness. This proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt. To offer someone else's head on a platter as a test of the administration's will - that is really something.
47 posted on 03/26/2004 5:16:16 PM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

49 posted on 03/26/2004 5:17:00 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Space Available for Rent or Lease by the Day, Week, or Month. Reasonable Rates. Inquire within.)
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To: mylife
mylife:

Its the right thing to do but will it spin as Pubbies attacking a poor lil dem during an elevtion cycle?

Richard Clarke is not a Democrat.

And it is the right thing to do. But you are missing the fact that there is definite upside for Kerry to make this "challenge".

Clarke will be exposed as having lied while a member of the Bush administration.

50 posted on 03/26/2004 5:17:00 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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