Why Nobody Saw 9/11 Coming

NYT ^ | 3/27/04 | PETER R. NEUMAN

[MNJohnnie]

Clipped this from the a report on the latest Newsweek poll taken AFTER Clarke's testimony. This should make people feel better. We can win this. We just have to fight like heck. It will not be won by news reports or campaign speeches, it will be won by us here talking to neighbors, freinds and co-workers. Even if you just get them signed up as Bush volunteers to get the Bush Talking Points Emails to help spread the truth, we take another step towards victory.


A strong majority (65%) of Americans say former President Bill Clinton and his administration did not take the threat of global terrorism seriously enough (26% disagree), while a majority (61%) of Americans say President George W. Bush and his administration have taken the threat as seriously as they should have (34% disagree). Forty-three percent say both administrations are equally to blame for not preventing the September 11 attacks (24% say the Clinton administration is more to blame, 17% say the Bush administration).

[MNJohnnie]

I keep hearing people (mostly liberals) say that another 9-11 will never happen again. Even after the 3-11 event in Madrid they say this. It annoys me to no end that a large segment of America has grown so complacent in such a short time, and yet this is the same segment that says Bush did nothing to stop 9-11 and it was


And part of that is the fault of Bush being SO successful. We are doing such a good job of drawing the terrorists out of their spider holes and killing them in Iraq and Afganistan that people think they are safe. To bad the same people who are so sure they are safe refuse to give Bush the credit for our successes

[x]

This looks very partisan. It would have been better for the writer to take his title more seriously and discuss, "Why Nobody Saw 9/11 Coming," if indeed it is true that nobody did forsee such an event.

The "paranoids" who worried about IRA or Red Brigade connections to the KGB were probably in advance of the rest of the establishment that simply ignored or dismissed terrorist groups. The author marshalls no evidence that people who didn't worry about "state-sponsored terrorism" were particularly concerned about "non-state-sponsored terrorism."

There's something a little bizarre about the whole article. The 1993 attack on the World Trade Center indicated the presence and activity of such groups for those who were interested in such things, but it's not clear that the Clinton administration or anyone else took the hint.

[Cannoneer No. 4]

Have you ever read Rainbow Six?

[theFIRMbss]

>Have you ever read Rainbow Six?

No. I think I read
Clancy's "Net Force" (book) because
I had heard he used

a cool martial arts
adviser, but I found it
boring. Is this good?

[theFIRMbss]

> Clancy's "Net Force" (book) because/I had heard he used/a cool martial arts/adviser

Goju-Shorei Weapons teaches any individual how to use a cane, knife or fan as a legal and practical self defense weapon. Practical self defense, is the key element in Goju-Shorei Karate and in the Goju-Shorei Weapons System. The cane, knife and fan are weapons that can be carried anywhere in the world without confiscation. The cane, knife and fan are formidable weapons when used correctly against an attacker. Master Dave McNeill, Soke   *   Developer of the Combat Cane as featured in NET FORCE by Tom Clancy

[katya8]

No one could have foreseen 911. It's totally impossible for any normal, sane human being to even begin to think about planes full of passengers smashing into skyscrapers full of people.

But I'll tell you what COULD have prevented it:

1. The United Nations NOT having replaced the word "terrorist" with "freedom fighter"

and

2. The entire world's media NOT having totally supported all Palestinian and all other Arab terrorist atrocities!

And guess what? Scroll down to the bottom here cause they're STILL doing it!

[theFIRMbss]

>No one could have foreseen 911. It's totally impossible for any normal, sane human being to even begin to think about planes full of passengers smashing into skyscrapers full of people.

Lots of sane people
thought of it before bad guys.
Hell, a TV show

did an episode
showing planes headed for the
WTC complex . . .

[katya8]

Unbelievable, FIRM!

I knew that someone in the Film or TV industry had to have done a WTC plane-thing ......they need to be tried for treason, don't you think?

[Cannoneer No. 4]

Rainbow Six is real good, and has radical environmentalist whackos trying to depopulate the planet with airborne Ebola biological agent dispersed into the air conditioning at the Olympics.

[theFIRMbss]

>Rainbow Six is real good, and has radical environmentalist whackos trying to depopulate the planet with airborne Ebola biological agent...

I will check it out.
There's an MST3K
episode, "Agent

from HARM" where bad guys
try to spread killer "spore germs"
over US crops . . .

"Ah yes, it's the '60s again, and studly secret agents are running all over the place, proud and free. The eponymous "Agent For H.A.R.M." is one Adam Chance, a joyless fellow who favors yellow cardigan sweaters and looks like Dr. Smith's less effeminate younger brother. Chance is assigned to protect one Dr. Jan Steffanic, a scientist recently defected from a vague Iron Curtain country (remember them?). Turns out Steffanic is on the cutting edge of some wacko technology which shoots "spores" at people, turning them into quivering masses of green-grey fungus - quite a disgusting little fate, as you might imagine. Dr. Steffanic also has a frequently-bikini-ed niece, who is certifiably hot. And though she is easily 25 years younger than Chance (really, when has that ever mattered in the world of movies?), they become entangled. They survive an onslaught of fey, mincing Euro-bad guys, one of whom is the artist known as Prince. Turns out the niece -- like most alluring women in these kind of movies -- is Evil and not to be trusted. She is exposed as a double agent for the Commies, and then the movie mercifully ends."

[Dog Anchor]

If you liked that quote...try this one in regard to Ted Kennedy.

"The danger was too imminent and too appaling for men to be willing to condemn those who were successful in saving them from it. But I fully understood and expected that when there was no longer danger, when the fear had been forgotten, attack would be made upon me; and as a matter of fact the attack was begun, and has continued at intervals ever since; my ordinary assailant being some politician of rather cheap type."
- Theodore Roosevelt

[Just mythoughts]

"......my ordinary assailant being some politician of rather cheap type."
- Theodore Roosevelt


LOL, Old Teddy does play "cheap" politics, but the price we American are forced to pay is not "cheap". "Big Dig"!

Nice epitaph!

Thanks.