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Keep bases here, Germany implores U.S.
AP Wire | March 28 2004 | MELISSA EDDY/AP

Posted on 03/28/2004 5:36:02 AM PST by knighthawk

WUERZBURG, Germany - As host to 170,000 American soldiers and dependents, Germany has a lot to lose under Pentagon plans to shift forces out of western Europe, and officials in areas facing a pinch are lobbying heavily for them to stay.

Economic survival for their communities, more than security, is the concern for these supporters of a continued U.S. presence in their regions, where ties are deeply rooted despite Germans' current criticism of U.S. policy in Iraq.

Many of the communities depend on business and jobs generated by the bases, located mainly in economically weak regions of southern and western Germany.

''We realized that our installations are in grave danger,'' said Karl Peter Bruch, a state official in Rhineland-Palatinate who heads an effort to lobby U.S. officials. ``And then came the question, what can we do to make us more attractive?''

The tactic has drawn mixed reviews from the Americans, who have some 80,000 military personnel with 94,000 family members in Germany.

The issue has nothing to do with Germany being unattractive, U.S. officials say. It's part of a global realignment to meet changing threats centered in Central Asia and the Middle East.

''We're still sitting where we were at the end of the Cold War,'' said Air Force Maj. Gen. Jeffrey Kohler, the U.S. European Command's point man on planning for force realignment.

But letting go is not easy for towns like Wuerzburg, where the U.S. Army's 1st Infantry Division has been stationed since after World War II. It is frequently mentioned as a candidate to return to the United States.

At a recent farewell ceremony for soldiers departing Wuerzburg for Iraq, Bavaria's governor stressed the Army's importance to his state.

'Dear soldiers, your presence in Bavaria . . . is indispensable to peace and stability in Europe and is a key element in our trans-Atlantic relations. The U.S. Army, `our' 1st Infantry Division, must remain in Bavaria,'' said Gov. Edmund Stoiber, a leading conservative who narrowly lost national elections in 2002 to Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's Social Democrats.

STRAINED RELATIONS

Schroeder's relations with Washington were strained by his strong opposition to attacking Saddam Hussein's regime. But U.S. officials made it clear they're pulling forces out of Germany because of the changed international threat, not as punishment.

Nonetheless, German officials aren't giving up. Mayors from host cities across Bavaria and Rhineland-Palatinate traveled to Washington in the fall to argue the benefits of keeping bases in Germany: solid infrastructure, good quality of life and decades-old friendships.

Even though critical sites in Rhineland-Palatinate such as Ramstein Air Base and the Landstuhl medical center appear likely to stay, Bruch figures his state should do even more, since entire regions depend heavily on the $1.4 billion and 27,000 local jobs the U.S. military generates.

With German-U.S. working groups, Bruch toured all the American bases in the state to learn what they need and what would make them attractive to the restructured U.S. military.

HOUSING

A key issue was decrepit housing that didn't meet the latest U.S. security needs, so Bruch has raised about $130 million in private funds for renovation and construction of new housing for the Americans.

He also hired a Washington-based consultant and traveled to the U.S. capital to make his case. American officials reacted positively and invited him to return this spring with concrete plans for new military housing, Bruch said.

''There had been other delegations, including one from Bavaria that talked about how beautiful the mountains are,'' Bruch said. ``But we were the only Germans who went there and presented a concept.''

While in Washington, Bruch also learned more about the U.S. Army's introduction of small, highly mobile units called Stryker brigades. U.S. officials are looking to base them at strategic locations where they can train but also be ready to deploy quickly.

''That would be ideal for Baumholder,'' Bruch said, referring to a base with a large training area near Ramstein where parts of the 1st Infantry Division are now stationed. He plans to make that pitch in Washington.

Officials at European Command say they expect to have a solid picture of the future force structure in Germany by early spring.

TASK FORCE

Some cities are not waiting to find out if they are on the list of closings.

In Bamberg, which also hosts units of the 1st Infantry Division, city officials have set up a task force to grapple with issues like a flooded real estate market if the Army should vacate its 500 apartments.


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bases; germany; militarybases; newnwo
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1 posted on 03/28/2004 5:36:02 AM PST by knighthawk
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To: MizSterious; rebdov; Nix 2; green lantern; BeOSUser; Brad's Gramma; dreadme; Turk2; keri; ...
Europe-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

2 posted on 03/28/2004 5:36:28 AM PST by knighthawk (Full of power I'm spreading my wings. I have started my journey, I'm drifting away with the wind,)
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To: knighthawk
THey did not support us in the WOT. Screw them!
3 posted on 03/28/2004 5:37:22 AM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: nonliberal
They helped Saddam and hurt America. Dump Germany and France.
4 posted on 03/28/2004 5:38:25 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: Dog
As host to 170,000 American soldiers and dependents, Germany has a lot to lose under Pentagon plans to shift forces out of western Europe, and officials in areas facing a pinch are lobbying heavily for them to stay

FYI

5 posted on 03/28/2004 5:38:31 AM PST by Mo1 (Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
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To: knighthawk

I know what she'd say...

6 posted on 03/28/2004 5:39:47 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: knighthawk
gosh how is it that the loss of bases did not figure in earlier commnets in Germany? If 100,000 jobs leave the country, their unemployment will hit 15%. too bad. good bye. and as they said in Private Ryan, "Shut up with that Pig Latin!"
7 posted on 03/28/2004 5:41:19 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: knighthawk
Maybe they should have thought about that before*they decided to screw us over Irak...?? Hmmmmmm???

Dumkopfs, eh HOGAN?

Sgt. Schultz
8 posted on 03/28/2004 5:41:24 AM PST by GRRRRR (Love America? Vote Republican)
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To: knighthawk
By moving troops to Poland we would help the Polish economy.

Onward to Poland, screw Germany.
9 posted on 03/28/2004 5:41:50 AM PST by snooker
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To: knighthawk
To: Schroder

Re: US Base Realignment

Dear Sir,

SUCK EGGS

Have a nice day!

Signed
Rummy and the Bush Administration

10 posted on 03/28/2004 5:42:19 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: nonliberal
Tell that to the families of the german soldiers who lost their lives in the WOT in Afghanistan or better yet screw you!
11 posted on 03/28/2004 5:42:52 AM PST by sumocide
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To: knighthawk
Remove our people from Germany. Let the Germans waller in their own waste! Let's see how well their socialistic society fares without U.S. money!
12 posted on 03/28/2004 5:43:36 AM PST by RAY (Right or wrong, it is my country!)
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To: knighthawk
''There had been other delegations, including one from Bavaria that talked about how beautiful the mountains are,'' Bruch said.

Poland has mountains too.


13 posted on 03/28/2004 5:44:54 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: knighthawk
You'll see a lot of articles with the same complaints as soon as the Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) gets going good. Many US bases will be closed too and our politicians will make the same claims.
14 posted on 03/28/2004 5:44:58 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: sumocide
Play nice.
15 posted on 03/28/2004 5:46:21 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: knighthawk
NEIN! NEIN! Dumkoph,
16 posted on 03/28/2004 5:46:28 AM PST by chatham
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To: knighthawk
Now isn't this just too bad. You call our president a Nazi, and by doing so call at least half of America that voted for him the same. None of you stood up to denounce such statements to this day. And now you have the GAUL to start crying when you get your just deserts?


To you I say go kiss the french, you've already been in bed.
17 posted on 03/28/2004 5:47:31 AM PST by Broadside Joe
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To: knighthawk
"Dear Soldiers, Your presence in Bavaria is indispensable to peace and stability in Europe......."

Dear Bavarian Politician, your socialist government has poured Germany's considerable wealth into social welfare programs for decades so that you're unable to mount a modern military for your own defense. You want U.S. troops to stay on so you can continue your good-times, rock 'n roll welfare state society at America's expense.

Have another beer and a pretzel and go visit Mad King Ludwig's castle for your continuing comfort and inspiration.

Leni

18 posted on 03/28/2004 5:48:16 AM PST by MinuteGal (Paradise is not lost ! You'll find it May 22 aboard "FReeps Ahoy 3". Register now for our cruise.)
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To: knighthawk
While it is true that Germany should assert its opinion regarding the WOT without regard to any repercussions for expressing that opinion, they did more than merely assert their position... they actively engaged in activity that directly opposed the USA. They indeed should have repercussions for such non-friendly behavior.

I dunno if this is related, I think not... but it may be related to the EU putting tarrifs on US made goods manufactured in states critical to Bush in the election. The EU is trying to affect our election by increasing unemployment in critical states. I would guess this is more closely tied to the base closings than WOT behavior...if indeed they're tied at all...jmho

19 posted on 03/28/2004 5:51:28 AM PST by Principled
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To: knighthawk
Hubby Mike is at Ramstein/Landstuhl on a medical out of Iraq heading for Walter Reed....was warned not to leave the base...German protesters at the gates last week protesting the 1yr anniversary of the war in Iraq....after a year in Iraq, this is what greeted him...
20 posted on 03/28/2004 5:51:30 AM PST by mystery-ak (Terrorist: smoke em, if you got em.)
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