Islam’s Anti-Christian Jihad

FrontPageMagazine.com | March 29, 2004 ^ | FrontPageMagazine.com | March 29, 2004 | By Robert Spencer

[samtheman]

Not to mention, what is life like for a Christian in a state governed by Islamic Law? Second-class-citizen? Worse. More like a Jew in Nazi Germany before being sent to a camp.

[weegie]

I'm sorry but as a generalization that is nonsense. I'm one of 40 odd thousand Christians living in Dubai, United Arab Emirates and have never heard of anyone having problems in practising thier faith

[samtheman]

If you're living there, you know more than I do. But what's the word for "people of the book", dhinni? Something like that. And isn't it a severe second-class status --- tantamount to wearing the yellow star --- in at least some Islamic countries. Maybe Dubai is more liberal than most. What's the word I'm looking for? If you live there, you must know it.

[weegie]

The phrase is something like that. UAE, Oman, Qatar, Bahrain and Kuwait all have Christian Churches. In general Christians are fairly well respected (atheists are despised). the shops just now are full of holy statues for Easter aimed at the large and mainly Filipino Catholic community. Remember also that Easter is a public holiday in Egypt, Syria and Lebanon.

The one exception amongst the Arab countries I have visited (and its most of them) is Saudi Arabia where possession of a bible or the wearing of a crucifix is a fairly serious crime. Why they were always held up as our best friends in the region is a mystery to me.

[samtheman]

Are you a citizen of UAE?

[weegie]

Nope - UK

[samtheman]

What about UAE Christians? Do they have full voting rights? Are they free from job/promotion discrimination? Can local Christian women walk the streets alone without headscarves?

Just curious.

[ought-six]

It is inevitable that there will be a huge and bloody clash between Christians and Moslems; the animus of Moslems towards Christians is breathtaking in its fervor. Islam is an angry, hate-filled and militant "religion" that daily shows it is not capable of existing side by side with other faiths.

[weegie]

There are no UAE national Christians. Hardly surprising as there was no need for any migration here until the oil boom. There are actually very few UAE nationals - about 22% of the total population. The biggest religion is probably Hindu as that is the faith of the Indian labourers and clerks who make up the majority. More and more of the young national girls are adopting a more western style of dress. There is certainly no legal pressure for anyone to wear headscarf (witness the amount of "daisy dukes" - this years fashion item in the bars and clubs) Familial pressure may well be different thing

[weegie]

Sorry missed this - as for voting - No one has voting rights - absolute monarchy

[2banana]

Ask why these Muslim countries are full of peace and tolerance:


Saudi Arabia - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bibles are illegal. Churches are illegal.

Yemen - Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims and forbids conversions. The Government does not allow the building of new non-Muslim places of worship

Kuwait - Registration and licensing of religious groups. Members of religions not sanctioned in the Koran may not build places of worship. Prohibits organized religious education for religions other than Islam

Egypt -Islam is the official state religion and primary source of legislation. Accordingly, religious practices that conflict with Islamic law are prohibited. Muslims may face legal problems if they convert to another faith. Requires non-Muslims to obtain what is now a presidential decree to build a place of worship

Algeria - The law prohibits public assembly for purposes of practicing a faith other than Islam. Non-Islamic proselytizing is illegal, and the Government restricts the importation of non-Islamic literature for distribution.

Jordan - Has the death penalty for any Muslim selling land to a Jew.

(All information is from US State Department Human Rights Reports)

I could go on with more examples.

[weegie]

There was a new church built in Kuwait about two years ago. It was probably built by the government rather than an organized group of Christians though

[MrsEmmaPeel]

I'm sorry but as a generalization that is nonsense.

My brother is living in Saudi Arabia (has been for many years) and he says very much the same thing. He does talk about the Religious Police -- but they are there to ensure that all people follow the law. Things like a woman can not walk down the street unaccompanied. If she is with a man, that man must be either the husband, father, or brother. They must show papers on demand proving the relationship. My brother has had to do that with his wife many times, but then again, so have many other native born Saudis.

Its not a place I'd particularly enjoy living, but in all the years he's lived there, he's never seen any blatant, overt, persecution of any sect or group. He says that if you follow the rules, there is no problem.

[Savage Beast]

A Muslim's message can always be an example of taqija.

[Esther Ruth]

Nonsense??? No problems practicing Christianity and their faith in these countries????? Where can I get a pair of your rose colored glasses???

[weegie]

And Saudi is by far the most fundamental of all the Arab states. Personally I wouldn't live there for ten times my salary

[weegie]

I don't need them. I have attended churches in UAE, Kuwait, Oman and Lebanon. I have walked past churches in the other countries mentioned.

[Esther Ruth]

Lebanon??? Are you saying the news of murders of Christians, missionaries, health care workers at hospitals, etc., are you saying these did not actually happen, that it was imagined, or are you saying these murders where not related to their faith?

[Savage Beast]

One of the biggest advantages Islam has over the West is Muslim certainty, delusional though it is.

Muslims are not in doubt, whereas millions of people in the West are "Liberals"/leftists, and these people, who are every bit as delusional as the Muslims, are in doubt about everything.