Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Hamas says ``God declared war'' against Bush
AP ^ | 3-28-04 | IBRAHIM BARZAK

Posted on 03/29/2004 5:25:41 AM PST by truthandlife

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:46:14 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The new Hamas leader in Gaza on Sunday called President Bush an enemy of Islam and said that "God declared war" against the United States and Israel -- but stopped short of saying the group would strike U.S. targets.

The Hamas chief, Abdel Aziz Rantisi, renewed threats to attack Israel in retaliation for the assassination of the group's founder, Sheik Ahmed Yassin, last week. He was addressing a Hamas rally at Gaza City's Islamic University.


(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Israel
KEYWORDS: bush; hamas; israel; rantisi; targets; terrorism
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-72 next last

1 posted on 03/29/2004 5:25:42 AM PST by truthandlife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: truthandlife
He must be referring to Arafat, not Allah, 'cause Allah hasn't declared anything in ages.
2 posted on 03/29/2004 5:32:55 AM PST by capt. norm (If two wrongs don't make a right, try three.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: truthandlife

3 posted on 03/29/2004 5:33:19 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: truthandlife
Hey, Rantisi! Bring it on, you unwashed POS! The sooner the battle be joined the sooner we can rid ourselves of the vile scourge of radical Islam.
4 posted on 03/29/2004 5:34:42 AM PST by ought-six
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: truthandlife
The press continues to call the killing of Yassin an assassination.

It was a long overdue, justifiable execution.
5 posted on 03/29/2004 5:39:10 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: truthandlife
Rantisi hasn't stopped talking since Yassin was killed. As long as talking is all he does, he may live a little longer. If Hamas instigates more suicide bombings, however, Rantisi will surely be taken out.
6 posted on 03/29/2004 5:44:34 AM PST by marshmallow
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Luis Gonzalez
Well, we appear to have yet another foreign leader who is pulling for Kerry.

7 posted on 03/29/2004 5:45:15 AM PST by JaguarXKE
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: truthandlife
"We knew that Bush is the enemy of God, the enemy of Islam and Muslims," Rantisi told the crowd. "America declared war against God. Sharon declared war against God and God declared war against America, Bush and Sharon."

"The war of God continues against them and I can see the victory coming up from the land of Palestine by the hand of Hamas," he said.

Keep talking, bearded lady. The more I hear these guys the more I think that Mohammed was the anti-Christ.

8 posted on 03/29/2004 6:07:49 AM PST by Roy Tucker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Roy Tucker
I believe the God that Bush prays to is bigger than the god that they kill for.
9 posted on 03/29/2004 6:21:05 AM PST by Ingtar (Understanding is a three-edged sword : your side, my side, and the truth in between ." -- Kosh)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Ingtar
They say it's the same God, but I find it hard to believe. The messages are so different.
10 posted on 03/29/2004 6:24:01 AM PST by Roy Tucker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Luis Gonzalez
So if Hamas has declared war on the USA, in defense of this great nation shouldn’t we oblige them with annihilation?
11 posted on 03/29/2004 6:29:32 AM PST by tractorman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: tractorman
Notice how carefully he worded his statement...he said that "God" declared war on America.

Apparently "God" is losing the war.
12 posted on 03/29/2004 6:35:29 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Luis Gonzalez
I’d sure like to read the declaration myself or better yet, listen to the cassette tape.
13 posted on 03/29/2004 6:40:47 AM PST by tractorman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: 1bigdictator; 1st-P-In-The-Pod; 2sheep; 7.62 x 51mm; a_witness; adam_az; af_vet_rr; agrace; ...
FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel ping list.

WARNING: This is a high volume ping list

14 posted on 03/29/2004 6:41:35 AM PST by Alouette (A nasty end, and I wish I needn't have seen it; but it's a good riddance.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Roy Tucker
The messages are delivered by prophets.

Same God, different prophets.

Look at it this way.

Let's substitute God with Bill Clinton, Muslims with Democrats, and Christians with Republicans.

To Democrats, Bill Clinton is the greatest President in American history.

To Republicans, he's the worst scourge that ever disgraced the hollowed halls of American governance, and a stain on the American tapestry.

Neither perception alters the reality of Bill Clinton.

There is but one God, there can be no others.

Mohammed's interpretation of God does not change the actuality of who He truly is.

The good news is that there is some common ground between Christians, Muslims, and Jews...we are all God's children.

Some day, that fact will prevail.

15 posted on 03/29/2004 6:42:27 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: truthandlife
"We knew that Bush is the enemy of God, the enemy of Islam and Muslims," Rantisi told the crowd. "America declared war against God. Sharon declared war against God and God declared war against America, Bush and Sharon."

From the Religion of Peace.

16 posted on 03/29/2004 6:48:23 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: truthandlife
Real nut case.
17 posted on 03/29/2004 6:59:08 AM PST by freekitty
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: capt. norm
He must be referring to Arafat, not Allah, 'cause Allah hasn't declared anything in ages.

Allah declared war against Bush in the year 622.

18 posted on 03/29/2004 7:16:50 AM PST by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Luis Gonzalez
Not My God.
19 posted on 03/29/2004 7:29:31 AM PST by John Will
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: azhenfud
If you believe that this guy speaks for God, or even for all Muslims, then you must also think that I speak for all Christians.
20 posted on 03/29/2004 7:36:46 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Luis Gonzalez
Same God, different prophets

No way!

Their god asks them to sacrifice their sons, e.g. suicide bombers. My God sacrificed His only Son for us!

I've been wondering lately if the apostate religion talked about in Revelation could be Islam. But it doesn't really matter because I've read the end of the Book and know Who is going to win!

21 posted on 03/29/2004 7:47:46 AM PST by Former Fetus (aren't we all?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: truthandlife
The rock they pray to may have declared war but god didn't.
22 posted on 03/29/2004 8:55:04 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: truthandlife
God is too smart to do that.
23 posted on 03/29/2004 9:41:38 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All
I guess the State Department must have ben closed that day and didn't receive the message. You;d think the Almighty would have a better way of getting his message across.

I got news for Hamas -- George Bush declared war on you. Guess who's gonna win?
24 posted on 03/29/2004 9:43:48 AM PST by Wombat101 (Sanitized for YOUR protection....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Wombat101
Can't anyone find a rocket with his name on it?
25 posted on 03/29/2004 11:17:15 AM PST by tessalu
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: truthandlife
Bunch of heretics. They don't even pretend anymore.
26 posted on 03/29/2004 11:19:00 AM PST by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: truthandlife
The new Hamas leader in Gaza on Sunday called President Bush an enemy of Islam and said that "God declared war" against the United States and Israel
=== === === === === === === === === === ===

That the fece-eating illiterate paedophile 'god' of the Satanic cult of death and dismemberment has declared war aginst G-d, has been known for thousands of years.
27 posted on 03/29/2004 7:43:30 PM PST by tubavil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Luis Gonzalez
That's all well and good, but one group of believers wants to kill all us non-believers. Your message will wash in the West but not with the Islamic fundamentalists. They would listen to you claim that we are all God's children and then slit your throat because we are descendants of pigs and apes as it says in the Koran.

Your message works fine as long as we defend ourselves.

PS I am one Republican who,while no fan of Bill Clinton, don't view him as the worst President in American history. That would go to Jimmy Carter. And my Dad, who is a Cold War Democrat certainly would not rate Clinton as the greatest American president. I find your analogy well-meaning but faulty. The fault line between Muslims and Christians is far greater and more serious than partisan splits in the US.

28 posted on 03/30/2004 12:05:10 AM PST by Roy Tucker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Roy Tucker
You completely missed the point.

Degrees of something are always arguable, but the point I was making was about perception. Even your argument that some people see Carter as a worse president than Clinton helps me prove my next point.

Not all Muslims want to kill all non-Muslims...we would be having a much larger, world encompassing problem if that were the case.

The reason that is, is because this is far from being a religious conflict; religion is being used to incite passions.

This is a geopolitical issue, completely emanating from a very specific region of the world, and fought by shadow armies of assassins.

This isn't about religion, this is about an old way of life (Islam in the Middle East), and the encroachment of Western culture endangering the old power structures.
29 posted on 03/30/2004 5:34:26 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Former Fetus
Your statement is blasphemous.

There is only one God.

To claim that they believe in some other God, is to acknowledge the existence of some other God.

If your basic statement of the difference between the two Gods were true, then the Jews would also be worshiping another God.

Muslims do not know the full extent of God, they follow the teachings of a man instead of the Word.
30 posted on 03/30/2004 5:38:36 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: John Will
What other God is there?
31 posted on 03/30/2004 5:39:15 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Luis Gonzalez
Ever heard of sarcasm? Please, also notice that I referred to their god with a lower case g, but I referred to ours as God, upper case G. Doesn't that tell you anything? I applaud your zeal defending God's name, but next time read a post at least twice before flaming somebody!
32 posted on 03/30/2004 7:14:07 AM PST by Former Fetus (aren't we all?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Luis Gonzalez
I didn't miss the point. I completely don't agree with your point. We have a "larger, world encompassing problem". From the Bali bombings in Indonesia to the bombings in Madrid to the bombing of the Jewish community center in Buenos Aires". We are in a global war with a dominant strain of Islam.

If you don't think this is about religion, then you don't understand Osama Bin Laden, you don't understand your enemy. This is about reconquering Europe for Islam and killing those who don't want to convert.

This is definitely not about Western encroachment on their way of life. The Islamo-fascists hate the existing old power structures almost as much as they hate the power structures.

I still think your Clinton analogy doesn't make sense in this context at all.

33 posted on 03/30/2004 9:46:19 PM PST by Roy Tucker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Roy Tucker
"We are in a global war with a dominant strain of Islam."

Not a dominant strain of Islam at all, the adherents total less than ten percent of all Muslims, even by the most aggressive estimates.

"If you don't think this is about religion, then you don't understand Osama Bin Laden

if you believe that Usama bin Laden can lead a Muslim Holy War, then YOU don't understand the enemy.

As a Muslim, Usama bin Laden can no more call or lead a Muslim religious war, than I as a Roman Catholic can canonize Mother Teresa.

34 posted on 03/31/2004 12:12:07 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Bush/Cheney 2004 - Because a Cowboy's Work is Never Done!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Luis Gonzalez
Luis

"dominant strain' is a biological term that does not imply majority, it implies a strain that is stronger and growing faster than other strains. It eventually conquers the other strains. I think this describes Islamic fundamentalism perfectly with the funding that Saudi Arabia has provided for Wahabbist mosques all over the world.

if you believe that Usama bin Laden can lead a Muslim Holy War, then YOU don't understand the enemy.

He has got a lot of support from ayatollahs, mullahs and imams throughout the world, does he not? He is off to a good start. Next you are going to tell me that Islam is a religion of peace.

Roy

35 posted on 04/01/2004 3:18:46 AM PST by Roy Tucker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Roy Tucker
"Next you are going to tell me that Islam is a religion of peace."

Roy, if you're going to be an a**hole about this "discussion", then go be one with someone else; if you're going to play fortune teller, hang one of those shingles with the palm drawing over your door.

If you're going to discuss the current issue with radical Islam, then drop the BS slogans, and the crap you've been fed, and we'll talk, otherwise I'm busy now.

That "strain" seems to have already conquered you, you're giving them gravitas and support that they don't have.

There are nearly a billion Muslims in the world, Usama's support at best totals 10% of them.

Is that a lot of people?

Yes.

Are they all going to war with Christendom?

If they haven't by now, then they won't.

Usama and the radicals are doing everything in their power to create a world-wide war of religions...they're failing.

Instead, they're now having to kill their own to maitain power through fear.

Does that sound like an enemy on the rise?

Not at all.

36 posted on 04/01/2004 5:03:41 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Bush/Cheney 2004 - Because a Cowboy's Work is Never Done!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Luis Gonzalez; Roy Tucker
"That's all well and good, but one group of believers wants to kill all us non-believers. Your message will wash in the West but not with the Islamic fundamentalists."
Roy Tucker

You completely missed the point.
Degrees of something are always arguable, but the point I was making was about perception. Even your argument that some people see Carter as a worse president than Clinton helps me prove my next point.

How does it help prove your point Luis? I searched in vain for that proof.. But in any case, Nixon was arguably the worse president.

Not all Muslims want to kill all non-Muslims...we would be having a much larger, world encompassing problem if that were the case.

Give the situation time, luis. -- We've barely begun to fight.

The reason that is, is because this is far from being a religious conflict; religion is being used to incite passions.

Yes it is. - Which makes it a religious issue, and the next logical step means a religious conflict.

This is a geopolitical issue, completely emanating from a very specific region of the world, and fought by shadow armies of assassins.

We hope.. I've seen no assurance that we can continue to contain it as such.

This isn't about religion, this is about an old way of life (Islam in the Middle East), and the encroachment of Western culture endangering the old power structures.

It is about religion AND the old way of life AND about our encroachments..
-- And you, along with many others, are whistling in the dark that we can put the cork back in the jihadic bottle.

So am I...

37 posted on 04/01/2004 5:41:39 PM PST by tpaine (In arrogance a few powermad infinitely shrewd imbeciles attempt to lay down the law for all of us)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: truthandlife
"We knew that Bush is the enemy of God, the enemy of Islam and Muslims," Rantisi told the crowd. "America declared war against God. Sharon declared war against God and God declared war against America, Bush and Sharon."

"The war of God continues against them and I can see the victory coming up from the land of Palestine by the hand of Hamas," he said.


The fact that Hamas declared war against the two most powerful nations in the world, Israel and the United States, proves that he is totally clueless as to the power both nations possess. We could obliterate every Muslim country in the world instantly just by pushing a few buttons.

He can pray to Allah-satan all he wants because the ONLY TRUE GOD, the GOD of the Christians and Jews is NOT going to help Muslims. ALL of them will stand before God to give account for the evil they have done. God will NOT be mocked, so when they stand before Him in judgment, He*s going to take revenge. He will let them know they messed up BIG TIME. Until that time, I have lots of happiness just knowing that day*s coming. LOL!

38 posted on 04/01/2004 6:28:53 PM PST by NRA2BFree (ISLAM: FOUNDED BY SATAN AND FOLLOWED BY HIS DEMONIC BEINGS AKA: MUSLIMS!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NRA2BFree
"We could obliterate every Muslim country in the world instantly just by pushing a few buttons."

Ignorant.

39 posted on 04/01/2004 7:31:15 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Bush/Cheney 2004 - Because a Cowboy's Work is Never Done!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: Luis Gonzalez
Ignorant.

Rude.

40 posted on 04/01/2004 7:39:38 PM PST by NRA2BFree (ISLAM: FOUNDED BY SATAN AND FOLLOWED BY HIS DEMONIC BEINGS AKA: MUSLIMS!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: NRA2BFree
Perhaps.

But that was still an incredibly ignorant post.
41 posted on 04/01/2004 7:43:39 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Bush/Cheney 2004 - Because a Cowboy's Work is Never Done!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: Luis Gonzalez
Perhaps. But that was still an incredibly ignorant post.

And the reason I should care what you think is?

42 posted on 04/01/2004 8:07:17 PM PST by NRA2BFree (ISLAM: FOUNDED BY SATAN AND FOLLOWED BY HIS DEMONIC BEINGS AKA: MUSLIMS!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: NRA2BFree
Luis Gonzalez:
Perhaps. But that was still an incredibly ignorant post.

______________________________________


And the reason I should care what you think is?
42 -NRA-

______________________________________


Arrogance.
43 posted on 04/01/2004 8:44:31 PM PST by tpaine (In arrogance a few powermad infinitely shrewd imbeciles attempt to lay down the law for all of us)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: tpaine
Arrogance.

Do I get to pick between arrogance and ignorant because if I do, I think I like ignorant better. LOL!

44 posted on 04/01/2004 8:55:20 PM PST by NRA2BFree
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: NRA2BFree; Luis Gonzalez
Luis's arrogance allows no choice. You must obey his dictates..

If he says you're ignorant, it's dumb to argue with him. -- Trust me on this..
45 posted on 04/01/2004 9:03:15 PM PST by tpaine (In arrogance a few powermad infinitely shrewd imbeciles attempt to lay down the law for all of us)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: tpaine
Luis's arrogance allows no choice. You must obey his dictates..

If he says you're ignorant, it's dumb to argue with him. -- Trust me on this..

Oh...I thought you were saying I was arrogant, so I confessed to being ignorant. How blonde was that? LOL! If he would have told me what it was that I was ignorant of, I would have appreciated knowing what it was. I was just having a good time tonight. Didn't intend to cause a problem.

46 posted on 04/01/2004 9:28:51 PM PST by NRA2BFree
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: NRA2BFree
You are only a 'problem' to the arrogant.
-- Don't sweat being called ignorant, -- such remarks are strictly business to some wannabe leaders here.
-- Why? No one knows.
47 posted on 04/01/2004 9:43:27 PM PST by tpaine (In arrogance a few powermad infinitely shrewd imbeciles attempt to lay down the law for all of us)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: tpaine
You are only a 'problem' to the arrogant. -- Don't sweat being called ignorant, -- such remarks are strictly business to some wannabe leaders here. -- Why? No one knows.

OK, thanks for your input. ;-) I just wish I knew iF I really erred in my statement so I wouldn't make the same mistake again.

48 posted on 04/01/2004 10:05:30 PM PST by NRA2BFree
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: NRA2BFree
Well, you posted your opinion, why do you think anyone cares what YOU think?

Is it the same misguided, overbearing, self-sgrandizement thing that drives tpaine's life?
49 posted on 04/02/2004 5:04:33 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Bush/Cheney 2004 - Because a Cowboy's Work is Never Done!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Luis Gonzalez; tpaine
Well, you posted your opinion, why do you think anyone cares what YOU think?

YOU are the ONLY ONE who seems to have a problem with what I posted. If my posts bother you so much, DON'T read them!


Is it the same misguided, overbearing, self-sgrandizement thing that drives tpaine's life?

Last night is the ONLY time tpaine has ever posted to me. I know nothing about him, except that HE, unlike YOU was polite to me. In fact, YOU are the ONLY person who has EVER been RUDE to me, and I've been on FR for 4 years! Just leave me alone. I want NOTHING to do with you.

50 posted on 04/02/2004 10:31:54 AM PST by NRA2BFree
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-72 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson