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To: CJ Wolf
>>This is false and dangerous to suppose so, just using your numbers '500-1000' would make it silly to even suggest.

Your argument is with the medical literature, not me. (Google "Padian AIDS" or visit http://www.fumento.com/suaids.html)

>>And it also sounds like you are suggesting that it's OK for a women to have unprotected sex with an infected man as long as it's not anal.

No I'm not, but anal is probably about 100 times more dangerous, which is the public health secret the public health people seem not to be willing to tell.

>>Unfortunately women are much more easily infected in a normal sexual manner

Yes, more easily than men, who are essentially impossible to infect if they are healthy. Which does not change the fact that it is still VERY difficult to infect a helathy woman via vaginal sex.

>>and it only takes one time.

Perhaps in the unusual (1 in 1000) case, but not on average. In the Padian study, they followed couples with an infected male partner and uninfected woman, and it turned out that only 20% of the women EVER became infected before the man croaked or became too pooped to party.

>>However, the linkage to women getting it, pretty much starts with a bisexual man who is infected with HIV via same sex sex or via a man or herself who does intravenous drugs.

If she never does IV drugs, and never has unprotected anal sex with someone who does IV drugs or who receives anal sex, she is probably pretty darn safe, unless she has repeated unprotected vaginal sex with an infected partner.

AIDS is about medical facts, not a metaphor for teaching responsible behavior. There are plenty of dangerous and irresponsible behaviors that are not AIDS-risky.
16 posted on 03/29/2004 8:55:32 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Beelzebubba
"Your argument is with the medical literature, not me."

Then it is with medical literature that you quote. IMO, The whole medical community is suspect with this 'syndrome' in any rate, and you can find contradictory studies pretty much anywhere, depending on the funding source.

"If she never does IV drugs, and never has unprotected anal sex with someone who does IV drugs or who receives anal sex, she is probably pretty darn safe, unless she has repeated unprotected vaginal sex with an infected partner."

So bottom-line, (no pun intended) anal, vaginal sex or IV use with an infected partner is bad and may result in infection. Here lies the problem, anecdotal evidence suggests (as such in that article), that many women do not know the past history of their partners and the partners may lie as well, many do not know they are infected and those that do sometimes don't care that they may be infecting others or wear condoms thinking that they will be safe... All the above is sickening behavior, as in behavior that makes you sick.

18 posted on 03/29/2004 10:11:24 AM PST by CJ Wolf
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