Clinton Rips Treasury Secretary Over Outsourcing Comments

AP/Newsday ^ | 3.30.2004 | Devlin Barrett

[NYC GOP Chick]

WASHINGTON -- Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, responding to remarks by a top U.S. official that outsourcing can be good for the economy, said the Bush administration isn't facing reality _ at least reality in upstate New York.

Clinton, D-N.Y., reacted angrily Tuesday to Treasury Secretary John Snow's comments that outsourcing is one aspect of trade, and is ultimately good for the economy.

"I don't know what reality the Bush administration is living in," said Clinton. "But it's certainly not the reality I represent, from one end of New York to the other."

[NYC GOP Chick]

"But it's certainly not the reality I represent, from one end of New York to the other."

The old battle-ax wouldn't know reality if it came up to her, introduced itself and proceeded to kick her in the ass!

[Mr. Buzzcut]

Seems to me she made the same point as Snow a few weeks ago in Buffalo ...

[Old Grumpy]

" . . . the Bush administration isn't facing reality . . ."

She is an authority on REALITY, isn't she!

[Peach]

Hillary: I'm sure you don't read the Wall Street Journal. But really, it's an excellent source of financial and employment information. Please try to keep up. Your famed intellect is failing you.

Excerpt from WSJ: Foreigners outsourced far more office work to the United States than American companies send abroad in 2003, reported the Wall Street Journal on Monday.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1098270/posts

[dinok]

"...outsourcing can be good for the economy..."

No matter what we think of Hillary, the comment by the Bush Official was stupid. The guys should have been fired by Bush. I would not have only fired him, but made an example of him publicly. To say this in a political year is the height of arrogance and disconnect from reality.

And no, I don't want to hear from any of you stock market pinheads about how the guy was right. In a political year, anyone who says that in public need to hear this phrase: YOU ARE FIRED.

[Starve The Beast]

"I don't know what reality the Bush administration is living in..."

Maybe it's the reality in which the most corrupt president in US history was the victim of a 'Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy'. Could be the reality where you can parlay a couple of thousand dollars into a hundred grand in commodities in just a few months by just sitting around the house. No, wait, maybe the reality where socialized medicine hasn't been a complete disaster wherever it's been tried...

Nah, never mind. Nobody would believe that last one...

[CasearianDaoist]

Outsource him! Outsource him I say! (BTW, I agree with you.)

[sgtbono2002]

Excuse me but wasnt Clinton always pushing for a Global economy? Didnt he sign NAFTA and GATT? Is Hillary denying that outsourcing started under the Clintons?

[Integrityrocks]

I'm no Stock Market pinhead, but Dinok.. please refer to post # 5. The Republicans deal with TRUTH and the TRUTH is what keeps us above the rhetoric - Outsourcing is GOOD. Get used to it. The Bush administration needs to say it more.

[Alberta's Child]

If the U.S. economy generated 10 million jobs next week, I can guarantee you that no more than a few hundred of them would find their way to New York -- one of the worst states in the U.S. in which to do business. Leave it to some jack@ss from Illinois by way of a trailer park in Arkansas to blame the Bush administration for the chronic unemployment problem in a state that has been "outsourcing" jobs for 60 years.

[paleolith]

Is this the same Hillary Clinton who said:

"I can't be responsible for every undercapitalized small business in America."?

I had friends who lost their jobs in medical research because of her misguided health care initiative. I saw her destroy the vaccine business. Vaccines rotted in warehouses and now new vaccines are scarce.

I hate Hillary because she is a fraud at every single level of her existance.

[SandRat]

Somebody needs to show this to the Witch of the East http://www.investorguide.com/cgi-bin/daily.cgi?10523

[ladyinred]

Was she "gasping for breath" again!

[chimera]

John Snow again, eh? You know, if Bush loses this election, and there is a good chance of that happening, it is going to be because of two brain-dead losers, Gregory Mankiw and John Snow. From a political strategy viewpoint, these two a-holes are handing the election to Kerry and the Rats on a silver platter. The one salient issue the Rats have to club Bush over his noggin with is the jobs/outsourcing/economy intermix, and these idiots are throwing gasoline on the fire.

So now I'm mad as h*ll and won't take it any longer. The next time the Republicans call me up for money I'm going to tell them I won't contribute any more to Bush until he puts John Snow and Gregory Mankiw on a very short leash with a very strong muzzle and tells them to STFU already! I'm tired of financially supporting a campaign that seems bound and determined to cut it's own throat, which they do whenever they send these two idiots out there to talk to the press. They should be locked up in a room somewhere and not allowed out until after the election.

[afz400]

"the comment by the Bush Official was stupid."
I couldn't agree more. Only the Bush true believers can deny that this one issue alone can prove to be Bush's undoing. When is ANYONE going to stand up for American jobs and not aid and abet our future enemies. Just look at pre WWII Japan for a taste of what is about to happen to us in twenty years with China. They really DO have WMDs and no one is afraid?

[OneTimeLurker]

Yes I agree. Keep telling people how it's good and eventually they will listen. The President has the bully pulpit and the American people believe and admire him.

[sportscaster]

Dear Hillary:
Just STFU.

[bvw]

This is the Wall Street Journal that on thier front page ran a cartoon of Luddite's rioting in old England -- that is, the WSJ resorts to a coarse, grotesque and cartoonish argument? Prima facie "cartoonish" ... yet that is the center of mass of the Free Traders' argument -- one of derision, cartoonish caricature, an Inquisition-like hectoring of any disgreement with the Free Trade Dogma.

[bvw]

Ditto on that.

[billorites]

Who cares.

I wanna hear Hillary's position on Cock Fighting.

[Peach]

I've lost my WSJ link and the one I posted is actually an excerpt from the WSJ using direct quotes from the article, but do not look badly on the Journal itself for that link, please. I should have made that clear when I posted it but thought everyone would notice the link (in red as I recall).

[ServesURight]

No matter what we think of Hillary, the comment by the Bush Official was stupid.

Oh please, every comment that a Bush administration makes is going to be "stupid" to the Rats and Bush bashers.

[pgkdan]

And no, I don't want to hear from any of you stock market pinheads about how the guy was right. In a political year, anyone who says that in public need to hear this phrase: YOU ARE FIRED.

Absolutely right. How is it possible for someone in Government at Snow's level be so damned tone deaf when it comes to politics? Talk about a tin ear! That comment was just too stupid to let stand. Don't these people realize that everything they say will be scrutinized and that they can really harm the President? I hope the President fires him...asap!

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Isn't Hillary the one who was instrumental in bringing an outsourcing firm to Buffalo.

[Gunslingr3]

To say this in a political year is the height of arrogance and disconnect from reality.

so, in an election year the Republicans should cast reality aside an argue for destructive, populist agendas. Great. Reminds me why I registered Independent.

[Paul Atreides]

"I don't know what reality the Bush administration is living in," said Clinton. "But it's certainly not the reality I represent, from one end of New York to the other."

It's sickening, the way that old bag speaks, as if her word is the ultimate authority.

[CaptainK]

the Bush administration isn't facing reality _ at least reality in upstate New York.

Is she insinuating that there are jobs upstate to outsource? I thought the business community evacuated from upstate years ago due to the obscene taxes in NY.

[woodyinscc]

If the U.S. economy generated 10 million jobs next week, I can guarantee you that no more than a few hundred of them would find their way to New York -- one of the worst states in the U.S. in which to do business.

Boy did you nail it.! I feel sorry for the upstaters, who have to pay their tribute.

[Right_in_Virginia]

"I don't know what reality the Bush administration is living in," said Clinton.

Tell us, what color is the sky in YOUR universe, Hillary!?

[CasearianDaoist]

Here, Here! That is the sign of an ideology cracking on the rock of pointed analysis. It is a way larger issue than just electioneering posturing. When that can of worms opens the whole globalist project comes under scrutiny - not just call centers and IT jobs. There will be some pretty strange bedfellows in that discussion.

[Mr. Buzzcut]

Here ya go:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1090917/posts

[dinok]

"Don't these people realize that everything they say will be scrutinized and that they can really harm the President?"

No they don't. They live in their little world between the office and the country club. The peasants can just eat cake. In this nation, the peasants vote.

We should be making the Dems answer for their over regulation and litigation policies that kill jobs. Not say that jobs going to China is a good thing.

[nothingnew]

...from one end of New York to the other."

Madame Hamhocks speaks again. The only thing IT knows about "one end of New York to the other" is that it's the same width as her ass.

FMCDH

[dinok]

"so, in an election year the Republicans should cast reality aside an argue for destructive, populist agendas. Great."

I don't know how life is in your little bubble, but in most of our lives, having a job to feed our families is not a "destructive" idea.

[PhiKapMom]

Will someone please tell her to sit down and shut up! Detesting her more by the day if possible.

[Alberta's Child]

New York sea-hag ping.

(that's Hillary -- not you. LOL.)

[Dialup Llama]

>No matter what we think of Hillary, the comment by the Bush Official was stupid. The guys should have been fired by Bush.

Correct you are. No matter what the 'theory' says, you don't go around saying things like "Let them eat cake" or "Losing your job is good for you."

[MNJohnnie]

Ok, so we should ingnore the FACTS and allow the Democrats to demagoge the issue instead of fighting their lies?

Oh great Political Thinkers, who are all so upset about this Outsourcing argument, why did John Kerry drop 12 points in the latest Gallup/CNN poll on the issue of Job creation??????? He still leads Bush on the issue but is dropping fast. Why? Because instead of doing what YOU all are arguing-roll over and play dead for the Democrat Demagogary, the Bush campaign is FIGHTING BACK. In Politics you do not WIN by running away from your political enemies arguements. You win by making an better argument! The fact is the economy is strong and getting stronger. No matter how much hysteria the Left tries to throw up about unemployment, the facts do NOT back them up. I think it is time some "conservatives" quite worring about what the Democrats are going to do and START THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO TO THEM!

[meenie]

Vee haf dumkophs een der New York.

[binger]

[Gunslingr3]

I don't know how life is in your little bubble, but in most of our lives, having a job to feed our families is not a "destructive" idea

Then find out what your neighbor wants done, and stop trying to prevent from trading goods and services with other people who offer him better deals and allow him to increase his standard of living. It's not John Kerry or George Bush's job to find something for you to do, or limit me to just trading with you.

[Ciexyz]

This is the second time in weeks that a high level Bush official has spoken positively of outsourcing. Enough already! It's just giving ammo to the Democrats who then misuse those statements to rile up desperate and frightened people.

[Maria S]

"Excuse me but wasnt Clinton always pushing for a Global economy? Didnt he sign NAFTA and GATT? Is Hillary denying that outsourcing started under the Clintons?"

Thanks! You said it a lot better than I could have. It continues to amaze me how the Clintons and liberals want us to co-partner with the UN, be buddies with every terrorist country, and just generally embrace the world...then turn around and whine because we've "lost" jobs due to outsourcing!

[fight_truth_decay]

Hillary Clinton on Free Trade

Globalization should not substitute for humanization
As with any sweeping change in history, there are those who are great proponents of globalization, [and] there are others who are great opponents. The real challenge is not to engage in an argument, but to try better to understand the forces that are at work and to harness those forces on behalf of society. To ensure that globalization, however one defines it, is never a substitute for humanization, never a force for marginalization, and not an enemy of the values that have long shaped our society.
Source: Remarks at The Sorbonne, Paris, France Jun 17, 1999


Hillary Clinton on China

Supports MFN for China, despite concerns over human rights
Clinton supported most favored nation trade status despite concerns about China’s human rights record. “We have to use our our moral and material strengths in ways that serve our evolving interests,” she said. “We have to ask ourselves what hope does the global market hold for the tens of millions of victims of child labor, or for the 100 million street children without homes or families whom I’ve seen everywhere from Brazil to Mongolia who are being left to fend for themselves.”
Source: Dean Murphy, NY Times Oct 20, 2000

Voted NO on extending free trade to Andean nations.
HR3009 Fast Track Trade Authority bill: To extend the Andean Trade Preference Act, to grant additional trade benefits under that Act, and for other purposes. Vote to pass a bill that would enlarge duty-free status to particular products from Colombia, Bolivia, Peru, and Ecuador, renew the president's fast-track authority and reauthorize and increase a program to make accessible retraining and relocation assistance to U.S. workers hurt by trade agreements. It would also approve a five-year extension of Generalized System of Preferences and produce a refundable 70 percent tax credit for health insurance costs for displaced workers.
Bill HR.3009 ; vote number 2002-130 on May 23, 2002

Voted YES on granting normal trade relations status to Vietnam.
Vote to grant annual normal trade relations status to Vietnam. The resolution would allow Vietnamese imports to receive the same tariffs as those of other U.S. trading partners.
Bill HJRES51 ; vote number 2001-291 on Oct 3, 2001

Voted YES on removing common goods from national security export rules.
Vote to provide the president the authority to control the export of sensitive dual-use items for national security purposes. The bill would eliminate restrictions on the export of technology that is readily available in foreign markets.
Bill S149 ; vote number 2001-275 on Sep 6, 2001


Bill Clinton on Free Trade


US must not disentangle itself from the world
The global economy is giving more of our own people and millions around the world the chance to work and live and raise their families with dignity. But the expansion of trade hasn’t fully closed the gap between those of us who live on the cutting edge of the global economy and the billions around the world who live on the knife’s edge of survival. This global gap requires more than compassion. It requires action. Global poverty is a powder keg that could be ignited by our indifference.
Thomas Jefferson warned of entangling alliances. But in our times, America cannot and must not disentangle itself from the world. If we want the world to embody our shared values, then we must assume a shared responsibility.

We must embrace boldly and resolutely our duty to lead, to stand with our allies in word and deed and to put a human face on the global economy so that expanded trade benefits all peoples in all nations, lifting lives and hopes all across the world.

Source: President Clinton’s farewell address Jan 18, 2001

On balance, trade creates jobs
The globalization of the world economy has had profound effects on work, on workers, and on wages. Open markets mean products come into America that are made by people who work for wages Americans can’t live on. This can cost some American workers their jobs and keep others from getting a raise.
But, overall, trade has brought vast benefits to most Americans. Jobs in exporting companies on average pay considerably higher wages than jobs in companies that sell only within the US.

Source: Between Hope and History, by Bill Clinton, p. 33-34 Jan 1, 1996

Support NAFTA & GATT: build bridges, not walls
We don’t need to build walls, we need to build bridges. We don’t need protection, we need opportunity. But in a world of stiff competition we also need more than free trade. We need fair trade with fair rules.
That’s why I fought for NAFTA, which effectively opened Mexico’s and Canada’s markets to American products, and for GATT, which is helping to level the playing field for American companies abroad.

In all, since 1992 we have negotiated more than 200 trade agreements-21 with Japan alone.

Source: Between Hope and History, by Bill Clinton, p. 34-35 Jan 1, 1996

Spur reforms via PNTR and China in WTO
After 13 years of negotiations, the Administration concluded a landmark agreement for China’s entry into the World Trade Organization. China agreed to grant the U.S. significant new access to its rapidly growing market of over one billion people, while we have agreed simply to maintain the market access policies we already apply to China by granting it permanent Normal Trade Relations. The U.S.-China agreement slashes Chinese tariffs on American goods; opens China’s markets to American services, and contains safeguards against unfair trading practices. China’s membership in the WTO will spur economic reforms in China, open China to information and ideas from around the world, and strengthen the rule of law in China.
The Administration [also] secured commitments from Asian Pacific nations to eliminate barriers to open trade in the region by 2020 for developing countries and 2010 for industrialized countries. Over the next two years, 15 sectors will be identified for tariff reductions.

Source: WhiteHouse.gov web site Jul 2, 2000

[bvw]

I get the WSJ delivered every day. I'm refering, iirc, to Friday's Journal. They also had a great article on Tiger Wood's collar -- and what is done in China for Tiger's collar could have well have been done here and just as quick or quicker -- if we hadn't have defuncted our mills.

[raybbr]

Velleicht bedeuten Sie "Dummkopfs"?

[dinok]

"It's not John Kerry or George Bush's job to find something for you to do, or limit me to just trading with you."

I said no such thing. What I did say was that saying "jobs going overseas is a good thing" during a political year is stupid and political suicide. You realy need to pay attention. I think they have some drugs for adult ADD.

[Victoria Delsoul]

"I don't know what reality the Bush administration is living in," said Clinton. "But it's certainly not the reality I represent, from one end of New York to the other."

She got that right.