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Silence won't work any longer [Hugh Hewitt on high-stakes moment for Church, Kerry, the unborn]
www.worldnetdaily.com ^ | March 31, 2004 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 03/31/2004 6:14:11 AM PST by RonDog

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WND Exclusive Commentary
Silence won't work any longer

Posted: March 31, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

"People in Rome are becoming more and more aware there's a problem with John Kerry," a Vatican official – an American – told Time Magazine this week, "and a potential scandal with his apparent profession of his Catholic faith and some of his stances, particularly abortion."

When John Kerry attended Mass during his skiing-snowboarding-upbraiding-the secret-service-agent-falling-down-repeatedly vacation, and then jetted off to make a rare appearance in the United States Senate to vote against a bill defining an unborn child as, well, an unborn child, devout Catholics across the country noticed. Now we learn from Time magazine that Kerry's avowed Catholicism is eliciting rebukes from Catholic officials, and not just those in faraway Italy. "When Kerry campaigned in Missouri in February," Time also reported, "St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke publicly warned him 'not to present himself for Communion' – an ostracism that Canon Law 915 reserves for 'those who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin.'"

Time speculates that the Church's problems may not hurt him much among Catholics because "[t]hose who are most strongly anti-abortion are probably already in Bush's camp. But many Catholics are, like Kerry, struggling with contradictions between the church's teachings and what they practice."

I suspect that Time is confusing the number of Catholics who disagree with the Church's position on birth control with the number who disagree with the Church on abortion. The former group is undeniably large, and would not be particularly concerned with Kerry's opposition to Church teaching on contraception.

But the Catholic faithful are pretty uniform on the issue of protecting unborn children, and Kerry's an abortion-rights absolutist, even on the dreadful issue of partial-birth abortion. As these voters learn of Kerry's hard left position on abortion rights and the Church's condemnation of it, don't expect them to give him a pass, especially in places like Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan.

Especially not against the anti-Catholic antics displayed by senators who filibustered the nomination of Alabama Attorney General William Pryor to become a federal judge. Pryor, a devout Catholic, was scorned by Democrats because, as Democratic Senator Charles Schumer of New York put it, "of his deeply held beliefs." Catholics know the code for anti-Catholicism, and the Knights of Columbus condemned the blockade of Pryor.

Time also noted that the pressure is on Boston Bishop Sean O'Malley to make his views known on Kerry's continued receipt of Holy Communion. The magazine quotes O'Malley as saying that Catholic politicians who vote against Church teachings "shouldn't dare come to Communion."

Having made such a statement, O'Malley will squander much needed credibility if he instructs his priests to refuse Kerry Holy Communion. But if he doesn't, the public gets the very clear message that the Church isn't serious about its sacraments, its teachings on life, or anything for that matter. When a clear breach of Church law is on display for the world to see and Bishop O'Malley and the rest of the hierarchy stand by without acting to use their authority, then the Church suffers another devastating blow to its credibility. If it doesn't take itself seriously, then why should anyone put stock in its teachings anyway?

This is a high-stakes moment for the Church and for Kerry. And for the unborn. If the Church truly does care for children inside the womb, it cannot be silent on John Kerry's participation in Church life.




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Hugh Hewitt is an author, television commentator and syndicated talk-show host of the Salem Radio Network's Hugh Hewitt Show, heard in over 40 markets around the country.



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1 posted on 03/31/2004 6:14:11 AM PST by RonDog
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To: JohnHuang2
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2 posted on 03/31/2004 6:14:46 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog; BibChr; Caleb1411; The Big Econ
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3 posted on 03/31/2004 6:15:29 AM PST by rhema
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To: doug from upland; ALOHA RONNIE; DLfromthedesert; PatiPie; flamefront; onyx; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Irma; ...
"When Kerry campaigned in Missouri in February," Time also reported,
"St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke publicly warned him 'not to present himself for Communion' –
an ostracism that Canon Law 915 reserves for 'those who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin.'" - Hugh Hewitt
Wow.
It appears that SOME people take their faith SERIOUSLY...

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If you listen to Hugh Hewitt,
or read his WorldNetDaily articles,
or his commentary at the Weekly Standard,
then this PING list is for YOU!

Please post your comments, and BUMP!

(If you want OFF - or ON - my "Hugh Hewitt PING list" - please let me know)

4 posted on 03/31/2004 6:23:37 AM PST by RonDog
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To: rhema
BTTT.

Kerry is vulnerable here. Write letters to the editor quoting the Catholic Family Association rating of Kerry in which he voted against life 30 out of 31 times. (See link below).

This record impeaches his credibility on any religious or moral issue. As a Catholic, Kerry rejects key principles of his church.

As President, will Kerry reject key principles of America?

http://www.cathfam.org/polrec/KerryVote.html

5 posted on 03/31/2004 6:25:58 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Leave Pat Leave!)
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To: RonDog
"St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke publicly warned him 'not to present himself for Communion' – "

Yes, wonderful, is it not? Have been praying for a long time, that the Pope, Bishops, priests, and religious be strong and holy. At least we have a couple now with moral courage . . .
6 posted on 03/31/2004 6:27:46 AM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: NYer; Salvation; Canticle_of_Deborah; sandyeggo; american colleen; Polycarp IV; Desdemona; ...
Defenders of the Faith Ping!!!

Let's hope O'Malley does what Burke did.
7 posted on 03/31/2004 6:28:15 AM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: RonDog
But many Catholics are, like Kerry, struggling with contradictions between the church's teachings and what they practice."


Sounds like these "many catholics" and certainly John Kerry - Believe they are smarter than GOD HIMSELF.
8 posted on 03/31/2004 6:30:39 AM PST by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: RonDog
Time speculates that the Church's problems may not hurt him much among Catholics because "[t]hose who are most strongly anti-abortion are probably already in Bush's camp.

I agree
It ain't hurt Teddy enough among so called Catholics to keep him out of the senate

He is one of the most powerful democrat senators and we can thank too many of those Irish Catholics in MASS for inflicting this left wing bloated creep on the nation
9 posted on 03/31/2004 6:31:34 AM PST by uncbob
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To: RonDog
But many Catholics are, like Kerry, struggling with contradictions between the church's teachings and what they practice."

What evidence is there that Kerry is "struggling" with anything other than his usual of trying to have it both ways.

10 posted on 03/31/2004 6:31:39 AM PST by FairWitness
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To: Brad Cloven
As President, will Kerry reject key principles of America?

Hasn't he already shown his Americanisms are long gone? Kerry is about as anti-American as you can get - his hypocritical stance on "jobs" for this country fall flat when you count the number of plants he and his wife have overseas, regardless of the vegetable argument, they could do the same thing here in FL, CA and AZ. In short, Kerry has no principals, integrity or honesty. He favors the United Nations over the United States.

11 posted on 03/31/2004 6:37:20 AM PST by yoe (The worse it is – the better it is!!)
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To: RonDog
Kerry should not be the only one. How about Teddy Kennedy?
12 posted on 03/31/2004 6:40:05 AM PST by Piquaboy
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To: RonDog
Hugh is RED HOT today. :o)

See also, from www.hughhewitt.com:

March 31, 2004

Posted at 5:25 AM, Pacific

The Washington Post's Dan Balz reports on the Kerry crumple, but does so gently, focusing on the erosion in his support among "registered voters," while overlooking Kerry's collapse among "likely voters." ( As noted yesterday and Monday, Kerry has plummeted 16 points in 40 days in the Gallup/CNN/USAToday head-to-head poll against Bush among likely voters.)  There is much brave talk in the Balz article from Kerry advisers and enthusiasts, suggesting that the negative ads have done their worse, and that this was to be expected after a $20 million dollar buy of such things.  Balz did not ask why Bush's numbers rose --during a bad news week featuring Richard Clarke, no less-- even as the much reported upon MoveOn.org's and Harold Ickes' 527 committees bought air time against Bush in the same proportion as Bush Cheney 2004 did against Kerry.

It isn't about the ads.  Its about the candidates.  Kerry is an aboslutely unlikeable guy, and when people get a look at him outside the context of a Democratic primary featuring Dean, Kucinich and Sharpton, they decide, surprize, not to like him.  And that's not going to change.

In fact, it is going to get worse, as the president goes about his disciplined, methodical campaign throughout the country and especially through the battleground states.  The Boston Globe's Scott Laidlaw filed an interesting report on Bush's swing through Wisconisn yesterday, where unemployement is down to 5.2%.  Blue-state-to-red-state-alert.

Another blue-state-to-red-state-alert from Keystone State: "Bush now leads Kerry in Pennsylvania Poll."   I didn't think that Pennsylvania governor Ed Rendell had much of a chance at being lifted to the veep slot, but Kerry must have the Quaker State, and Big Ed's a bruiser who will pretty much say anything, so add him to the real short list of Iowa Gov Tom Vilsack and reliable old Dick Gephardt.  ("But Ed's got a checkered past.," said Mary Beth.  "Do you want to stay in the game or don't you," thundered Schrum back at her.) (NOTE: Pennsylvania has two nicknames --"Keystone State" and "Quaker State," making it easy on sportwriters and political pundits.  What other states have two easily identifiable monikers?  Elder, put the dictionary down. " Moniker" means nickname, as in "Gopher State.")

Meanwhile, Tom Daschle has a big problem named John Thune, and now a new, second big problem named Tim Giago, an Indian activist now pledged to run as an independent in the fall.  There's even a blog devoted exclusively to this race, which is a pretty interesting development.  Bookmark Daschle v. Thune for updates on the marquee race of 2004.

Finally George Will does what George Will does best, a column-length takedown of Richard Clarke.  Sample: "By the eighth day Clarke was telling Tim Russert that the difference is that Clinton did 'something' whereas Bush did 'nothing.'  Nothing except, among other things, authorizing a quadrupling of spenidng for covert action against al Qaeda."  Read it all.

Since you aren't George Will and can't write a response to Clarke, consider giving a response to Clarke in the form of a contribution to John Thune, whose opponent Tom Daschle has done more to politicize national security and imperil the 9/11 Commission's work even as that trend encourages glory and headline-seekers like Clarke to time books to make money on national tragedy.  Kerry's loss in November will be laid at Kerry's feet, but the exile of Daschle would send a huge message that not even the most vicious partisan of the left could miss concerning the morphing of the Dems into an adjunct of the MoveOn.org crowd.  So give to Thune early and often.

March 30, 2004

Posted at 6:00 PM, Pacific

FirefightersforBush.com.  Great stuff.  And if you missed this post from Mark Roberts, go read it now.
Posted at 8:30 AM, Pacific
Just the man to instill fear in the hearts of our enemies.

When you recover  from that picture, consider the article below detailing al Qaeda's surprise at the American response to 9/11.  I have been thinking on this for most of the last three hours.  They really thought that Bush would respond like Clinton.  Now they hate Bush.  They must be hoping for a Kerry win in November because they have to assume that Kerry will indeed revert to Clinton form when it comes to terrorism: meetings, caucuses, conferences, minutes, high-level consultations, late-night phone calls to Kofi, walks in the twilight at Camp David, more meetings and conferences, more furrowed brows, and many, many plans and indictments.  And every four years a barrage of cruise missiles at a site abandoned hours, days or weeks earlier.

How they must miss Clinton.  How they must long for Kerry, along with Hugo Chavez, Kim Jong Il, and the retired nut prime minister of Malaysia.

A yellow flower zipper pull says a lot.  Especially to our enemies.


13 posted on 03/31/2004 6:41:52 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
MEMORIALIZED IN SONG HERE
14 posted on 03/31/2004 6:44:13 AM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: Brad Cloven
I sent the link on to friends; we'll all get the word out.
15 posted on 03/31/2004 6:45:14 AM PST by rhema
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To: RonDog
Thank you for your post. Because of past scandals, the Bishop in this country need to be very strong and consistant with the teachings of the Church. To allow politicians to openly flout the Church's teachings and at the same time claim to be Catholic and receive Holy Communion is to discredit the entire Church and Her teachings. Many are waiting for Bishop Sean to drop the "excommunication" label on him as PUBLICALLY as Kerry has received Holy Communion.
16 posted on 03/31/2004 6:49:06 AM PST by no more apples
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To: RonDog
A yellow flower zipper pull says a lot. Especially to our enemies.
See also, from www.powerlineblog.com:
March 29, 2004
A Ray of Hope

My main reason for optimism, vis a vis the November election, is John Kerry. You probably remember his snowboarding vacation, which we posted a photo or two of last week. But Mrs. Rocket called my attention to this picture, which I hadn't seen:

capt.efa10303232102.democrats_kerry_efa103.jpg

Mrs. Rocket pointed out a detail which had escaped my fashion-oblivious notice, namely, the yellow flower-power zipper pull. The whole look, of course, is appalling: the vest, the gloves, the botox. It is Mrs. Rocket's opinion that the American people will not elect as President a man who wears a vest with a flower power zipper pull.

I think she may be right.

UPDATE: A reader adds: "Thanks for posting that picture of Kerry today. Right now the French are pursing their lips and narrowing their eyes in shrewd appraisal: 'Daisy zipper pull, snowboard with mural graphics, sunglasses hanging from fleece shirt, thin vest-like outer garment. Yes. Clearly this man is the true Alpha Weenie.'''

MORE: A reader from Kentucky writes: "I think I shall be ill. My niece has a flower just like that one. She's seven."

HUGH HEWITT writes: "Just the man to instill fear in the hearts of our enemies."

STILL MORE: Another reader thinks the photo is very funny, but wonders whether the daisy might have been Photoshopped into it. Fear not; the photo is straight from the Associated Press. Her question, though, did cause me to run a search for all photos of Kerry with his snowboard. And it appears that this picture is the only one that shows the flower-power zipper pull. I infer from this that shortly after the photo was taken, a horrified aide noticed the flower and removed it from Kerry's get-up. Leaving only the sunglasses, the vest, the gloves, the board itself and the botox as evidence of Kerry's Alpha Weenie status.

Posted by Hindrocket at 11:01 PM

17 posted on 03/31/2004 6:52:19 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
O'Malley will squander much needed credibility if he instructs his priests to refuse Kerry Holy Communion. (...) When a clear breach of Church law is on display for the world to see and Bishop O'Malley and the rest of the hierarchy stand by without acting to use their authority, then the Church suffers another devastating blow to its credibility.

This is weird. He's saying O'Malley loses "credibility" if he withholds the Eucharist from Kerry, and loses "credibility" if he doesn't.

Maybe the problem is with the concept of "credibility," which is basically a marketing issue, as opposed to "truth," which the Archbishop must teach, whether it is popular or not.

18 posted on 03/31/2004 6:56:06 AM PST by Tax-chick (Mother of a teenager for FOUR days, and I'm still as sane as I ever was!)
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To: RonDog
Hugh is once again right on the money. Catholics would be the largest voting bloc if we all voted in concert. However, I know of many good Catholics who vote Democratic because of their alleged support of the poor. However, I've seen it really starting to shift. Both at the lectern and in the pew, more and more Catholics are starting to become active in their opposition to the watering down of Catholic teaching.

While I would love the Catholic vote to codify into a strong political force, I don't believe, as least for the near future, that will happen. However, if we can inch that force, little by little, in the direction of actively supporting Catholic teaching, Conservatives will gain much support.

I only hope the Bishops, including the liberal USCCB, continues to hold the line on Catholic teaching.

19 posted on 03/31/2004 6:59:58 AM PST by Solson (Always remember when you are on top of the world , that the earth rotates every 24 hrs.)
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To: AMDG&BVMH
The Pope has done a tremendous job of installing good Bishops into places where prior Bishops were wishy-washy at best. Denver, Milwaukee, Chicago, Boston, etc. have all seen a dramatic turn around in the support of Church teaching by their Bishops. I applaud it and sincerely thank the Pope.
20 posted on 03/31/2004 7:01:59 AM PST by Solson (Always remember when you are on top of the world , that the earth rotates every 24 hrs.)
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To: RonDog
Again Hugh hits on strong points otherwise avoided by the MSM (MainStream Media). Bush has a total of what?, 5 ads out, with half being Kerry defining. Yet, the result is a 16 point turnaround? If Bush's ads are THAT GOOD, he and his staff will be known as political geniuses for the ages. However, that's just not the case.

I think folks see the Dems really starting to politicize 9/11. I think folks see Kerry trying to be everything to everybody and it has weakened him. I think folks see Kerry for his post-Vietnam actions and are dismayed.

Bush will win this election barring any last minute attempts to derail.

21 posted on 03/31/2004 7:06:09 AM PST by Solson (Always remember when you are on top of the world , that the earth rotates every 24 hrs.)
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To: RonDog
This the same guy who told all conservatives in California to sit down and STFU when they tried to raise this issue during the election.
22 posted on 03/31/2004 7:11:39 AM PST by thoughtomator (Voting Bush because there is no reasonable alternative)
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To: RonDog
There is a war in the Catholic Church, just like there is in several Protestant denominations. The problem, as I see it, is that Catholic seminaries have put priests and bishops in place who care nothing for the Biblical ideals of life or marriage.

At the same time, many bishops and priests are in place who do. Does the Vatican have the muscle to start making life difficult for priests who deny the Bible? Do the faithful priests have the guts and clout to start making life difficult for pro-abortion, pro-homoexual marriage politicians?
23 posted on 03/31/2004 7:19:15 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen
The Pope, through his installed Bishops is starting to win this fight. Seminaries fall under Diocesan control, I believe. Thus, installing the right Bishops will do wonders in getting things back under strong Catholic teaching.
24 posted on 03/31/2004 7:22:22 AM PST by Solson (Always remember when you are on top of the world , that the earth rotates every 24 hrs.)
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To: NWU Army ROTC
Not to put too fine a point on it, but Hewitt is not a Catholic. His "advice" to the Church is actually setting Her up.

Perhaps Hewitt can advise the leadership of his own church (whatever that may be) and get an audience from them.

And, as observed above, Hewitt is rather selective in his indignation: Ahhhhhhnnnnnnold GOOD, Kerry BAD. But they advocate identical morality positions.

Hugh, baby!! Ever hear of consistency?
25 posted on 03/31/2004 7:26:33 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: RonDog
A yellow flower zipper pull says a lot. Especially to our enemies.
This image really needs ITS OWN thread:
CAPTION THIS:
John Kerry as "Alpha Weenie" - with yellow flower-power zipper pull
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1108645/posts

26 posted on 03/31/2004 7:31:49 AM PST by RonDog
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To: ninenot
Not to put too fine a point on it, but Hewitt is not a Catholic.
His "advice" to the Church is actually setting Her up.

Perhaps Hewitt can advise the leadership of his own church (whatever that may be) and get an audience from them.

See also, from www.crisismagazine.com:

Denominational Sabbatical

Conservative radio talk-show host Hugh Hewitt, who is author of The Embarrassed Believer: Reviving Christian Witness in an Age of Unbelief, says he’s "on leave" from the Catholic Church. He argues, "The American Church...needs a reformation." But, he despairs, "none is even remotely close to occurring." Hewitt points to the new cathedral in Los Angeles as "the perfect expression of the American Church today—so sterile it could be an air conditioning plant and designed to please non-Catholics with the taste of the leadership."

Hewitt describes his move from Roman Catholicism to Presbyterianism as partly positive and partly negative. He considers himself an "ex-pat, obliged to move to a Protestant expression of faith because I experience God’s presence more easily and more conclusively as a Presbyterian and began to do so over a dozen years ago." Presbyterianism works for him in ways Catholicism no longer did. "The Presbyterian confessions and order of worship are very left-brain and made me into a much better Christian," he says.

But some of the reasons for Hewitt’s move were direct reactions to problems he saw in the Catholic Church. Hewitt says, "The American bishops literally drove me out. I could not read the paper without muttering about their inanities. James Malone, the bishop of Youngstown, my bishop, who confirmed me, sputtering about nuclear weapons and poverty"—all this while Hewitt worked in the Reagan White House.

"These silly men," Hewitt complains, "issued reams of nonsense and met and met and met even as the liturgy collapsed into incoherence and the preaching dissolved into eight-minute homilies on the need for love. There was also the problem of the Responsorial Antiphon. It would almost always cause me to either laugh or grind my teeth. Is there a worse collection of ‘music’ anywhere? And the Christian Rite of Initiation, and the revamped Sacrament of Reconciliation—all of it just another set of committee reports from priests and nuns bored with the old Church. I could go on, but my guess is that you have heard it all before."

Hewitt concludes, "There is enormous energy and talent within the American Church which might over the years genuinely renew it and rebuild it. But I need God on a much more immediate basis."

Hewitt’s complaints will not surprise many practicing Catholics. If the average American Catholic based his faith formation and spiritual growth on statements issued by subcommittees of the bishops’ conference—or limp parish homilies—people would be dropping out at a much greater rate. Happily, the average American Catholic looks beyond these things...

CLICK HERE for the rest of that article

27 posted on 03/31/2004 7:40:19 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog; onyx; PhilDragoo; devolve
Ping!

"When Kerry campaigned in Missouri in February," Time also reported, "St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke publicly warned him 'not to present himself for Communion' – an ostracism that Canon Law 915 reserves for 'those who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin.'"


28 posted on 03/31/2004 7:54:10 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: RonDog
Hugh nails him,
and I am very pleased with
Archbishop Raymond Burke.
O'Malley of Boston had better be on the same page.
29 posted on 03/31/2004 8:02:11 AM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Benedict Arnold.)
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To: MeekOneGOP
You're slipping Meek. Thought for sure, you'd post this:


30 posted on 03/31/2004 8:12:21 AM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Benedict Arnold.)
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To: RonDog
Hewitt is once again spot-on with this article.
31 posted on 03/31/2004 8:25:12 AM PST by ought-six
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To: uncbob
"I agree. It ain't hurt Teddy enough among so called Catholics to keep him out of the senate."

Not the same thing, and the reason is that Massachusetts, for some sick reason, is pathologically enthralled with the Kennedys; not so the rest of the country. Massacusetts knows it is despised by virtually the rest of the country, so its citizens have a seige mentality, and will vote for anyone whom the rest of the country rejects (George McGovern, in 1972, ONLY carried Massachusetts), almost out of spite. Massacusetts' Catholics will, by and large, give Kerry a pass, just as they've given the Kennedy clan a lifetime pass, renewable for each succeeding generation. Catholics in flyover country, however, tend to take their faith seriously, and I don't think Kerry will enjoy much support from that element.
32 posted on 03/31/2004 8:33:07 AM PST by ought-six
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To: ninenot
Annnnnold is not a Catholic, I don't believe, so the comparison isn't valid. If Ahhhhnold is a Catholic, and he supports broad abortion as Kerry does, AND he receives communion, then Ahhhhnold should be vilified just as much as Kerry.
33 posted on 03/31/2004 8:40:24 AM PST by ought-six
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To: RonDog
But many Catholics are, like Kerry, struggling with contradictions between the church's teachings and what they practice."


Leave...next question.
34 posted on 03/31/2004 8:54:48 AM PST by Valin (Hating people is like burning down your house to kill a rat)
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To: RonDog
Bumper sticker I saw on a fellows RI car yesterday along with his IWO JIMA VET sticker:

YOU CAN'T BE A CHIRSTIAN AND PRO CHOICE!

35 posted on 03/31/2004 8:58:10 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: ninenot
Not to put too fine a point on it, but Hewitt is not a Catholic. His "advice" to the Church is actually setting Her up.

I'm not a Catholic either, but how is this setting the church up? Encouraging them to stay true to their teachings?

With regard to Arnold, Hugh has always said that he will support the most conservative candidate that could win. In the recall, that was Arnold. As much as I liked Tom McClintock, he never had a shot at winning that race. So he is being consistent.

36 posted on 03/31/2004 9:03:01 AM PST by CA Conservative
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To: maica; Freee-dame
ping
37 posted on 03/31/2004 9:19:47 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: onyx; RottiBiz
haha ! Oh, yeah ... that pic is PERFECT for this thread alright ! ...

38 posted on 03/31/2004 9:38:01 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
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To: RonDog
I agree with Hewitt's sentiments but I would have more respect for him if he would at the same time call to task those Protestant churches who remain silent about their own pro-abortian politicians.Jimmy Carter is one example.
39 posted on 03/31/2004 10:50:32 AM PST by Lady In Blue (President Bush on terrorists: "I'm tired of swatting at flies!")
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To: RonDog
I think it's beyond arrogance for Hewitt to say squat about the Catholic Church. He needs to help clean up his own house before lecturing the Catholic Church.
40 posted on 03/31/2004 10:53:27 AM PST by Lady In Blue (President Bush on terrorists: "I'm tired of swatting at flies!")
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To: Iron Matron
"But many Catholics are, like Kerry, struggling with contradictions between the church's teachings and what they practice." "

I don't think there's any "struggle" about it. Kerry has made up his mind, and will continue to arrogantly present himself for Communion as if he never heard a single pronouncement from any bishop anywhere regarding the reception of Holy Communion in a state of "manifest grave sin (read "mortal")." He couldn't care less.

41 posted on 03/31/2004 11:06:41 AM PST by redhead (Mother Angelica says, "This Lent, don't be good for nothing.")
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To: redhead
I don't think there's any "struggle" about it.

I absolutely agree! Do you have me confused with someone else? :)
42 posted on 03/31/2004 11:08:46 AM PST by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: RonDog; generalissimoduane; BKO; Joy Angela; conservogirl; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; ...
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...My Fellow Americans, we ain't seen nothin' yet...

...as HILLARY herself says that this year's Presidential Election will be very tight and that the victor will win because of "something unforeseen."



'HILLARY Predicts October Surprise'

http://www.Newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/3/30/123728.shtml



'HILLARY's plan to regain the White House'

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1022571/posts

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43 posted on 03/31/2004 12:03:14 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: RonDog
But many Catholics are, like Kerry, struggling with contradictions between the church's teachings and what they practice."

For those of you in Rio Linda; it's called heresy. - Tom

44 posted on 03/31/2004 12:07:20 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb republicans. - Capt. Tom)
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To: ought-six
SO you are saying that there are Catholic Democrats in flyover country who will change their voting pattern because of Kerry's support of abortion and they aren't already in Bush's column

These Catholics vote for Clinton ?

We are talking about NEW GOP voters and I think antiabortion types are already in the GOP camp

No new territory to mine here

What Kerry might do is insure that there are no defections of Catholics from Bush
45 posted on 03/31/2004 1:38:29 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Solson
"Boston"

an exceptionally important See, and he seems exceptionally holy; hope the entrenched bureaucrats do not thwart him . . . how hard to tackle a job like that, when some key subordinates are (to put it charitably) part of the problem rather than the solution . . .

I also esp. admire Bruskewitz . . .

May God Bless them . . .
46 posted on 03/31/2004 4:34:39 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: RonDog
Lot's of Kerry Catholics out there...

Kennedy
Schwarzenegger
Dick Riordan

Hypocrisy, at best.
47 posted on 03/31/2004 5:08:28 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: RonDog
"What is faith without deeds?" Kerry quoting from the Bible in a black church, berating Bush on his "faithless" policies.

Where is Kerry's faith when he refuses to protect the innocents?
48 posted on 03/31/2004 8:07:23 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: All; ALOHA RONNIE; Pagey
Dare We Add Another Clinton????

Living History: The Presidents

Carter - Reagan - Bush - Clinton - Bush

Has anyone noticed America's Power FELL
and our Enemies were Empowered and Encouraged
during the reign of Democrat Presidents,
Carter and Clinton?

Carter botched the rescue of the Iran Hostages
Clinton betrayed our Military in Somalia.

"Who Let the RATS Out? "

And now in the aftermath...America Pays The Price
Terrorism is a real threat.

And Hillary, herself, promises
an OCTOBER Surprise.

The ENEMY is Within

49 posted on 04/01/2004 12:21:09 AM PST by Joy Angela ( Hitlery *is* The Bad Seed)
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To: uncbob
Yes, there were Catholics who held their noses and voted for Clinton (most of whom were die-hard union members). However, many of those very same Catholics grew disgusted with him, and abandoned his successor, Al Gore, to vote for Bush in 2000.
50 posted on 04/01/2004 4:48:48 AM PST by ought-six
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