Abortionists Admit Dismemberment Horror

newsmax ^ | Thursday, April 1, 2004

[InvisibleChurch]

Thursday, April 1, 2004 Abortionists Admit Dismemberment Horror

"Another doctor a day earlier had testified that a fetus sometimes does not immediately die after limbs are pulled off."

That's the sole reference we could find to the major piece of blockbuster testimony in searching the wire services today for accounts of the partial-birth abortion trial going on in New York.

Pro-abortion reporters and editors don't like to dwell on reality, doncha know.

Here's some slightly less horrific testimony that the media will relate from U.S. District Court in Manhattan.

"Does the fetus feel pain?" Judge Richard C. Casey on Wednesday asked another abortionist, Dr. Timothy Johnson, a plaintiff in one of three lawsuits challenging the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act.

Johnson: "I guess whenever I ..."

Judge Casey: "Simple question, doctor. Does it cross your mind?"

The abortionist said it did not.

Judge Casey: "Never crossed your mind?"

Johnson: "No."

Judge Casey: "So you tell her the arms and legs are pulled off? I mean, that's what I want to know. Do you tell her?"

Johnson: "We tell her the baby, the fetus, is dismembered as part of the procedure, yes."

Casey asked if abortionists admitted to the mother about "sucking the brain out of the skull" of the baby.

Some Settling of Contents May Occur

Johnson: "I don't think we would use those terms. I think we would probably use a term like 'decompression of the skull' or 'reducing the contents of the skull.'"

Judge Casey: "Make it nice and palatable so that they wouldn't understand what it's all about?"

Johnson: "We try to do it in a way that's not offensive or gruesome or overly graphic for patients."

[InvisibleChurch]

35, 000, 000 and counting

[boomop1]

The Devil's work, hell is a welcome home for these people.

[syriacus]

AP version at Judge quizzes doctor about pain fetus might feel during controversial abortion procedure, By Associated Press

[kenth]

"Another doctor a day earlier had testified that a fetus sometimes does not immediately die after limbs are pulled off."

I thought their argument was that it is nothing but a tissue mass and therefore not alive. How can it die in their view?

These 'doctors' are nothing more than serial killers as far as I'm concerned. The telling point is the satisfaction they derive from it and going so far as to downplay what they are actually doing when describing so that they may continue to do it.

[syriacus]

Partial-Birth Abortion Trial Continues, Abortionist Would Risk Jail, by Steven Ertelt, LifeNews.com Editor, March 30, 2004.

New York, NY (LifeNews.com) -- The three trials over the lawsuits filed to overturn the national ban on partial-birth abortions continued on Tuesday with a doctor testifying for abortion advocates claiming partial-birth abortions are needed because it allows for a proper burial for unborn children after they are killed.

Amos Grunebaum, a specialist in maternal fetal medicine at New York Hospital, said women choose partial-birth abortions in part because they grieve over the loss of an unborn child and want to offer their baby a proper funeral.

Grunebaum said the abortion procedure held the vast number of women who otherwise "really, really, really wanted to have a baby."

He said doctors used to hide the baby following an abortion in the 1970s and 80s, but later studies show women are able to grieve better if they are able to see the child.

"It is the same as any baby dying. People want to hold the fetus," he said, according to an Associated Press report.

[thoughtomator]

It's like describing the Zyklon-B extermination chambers as "showers"... euphemasia.

[jwalsh07]

Yes it is but it is seeing the light of day and we owe it to Bush, Ashcroft, Santorum and the millions of Pro lifers who will just not let Roe and Doe stand unimpeded.

[Liberty Valance]

This breaks my heart. If it's got a heartbeat, it's a live human being. It's simple to understand. Murder is not pro choice...it's murder. Thanks for posting this.

[reagan_fanatic]

Today's holocaust.

Mengele would be proud.

God have mercy on us.

[Campion]

partial-birth abortions are needed because it allows for a proper burial for unborn children after they are killed.

The lies are getting more and more transparent.

PBA is needed (a) to ensure that the baby is dead; and (b) so the organs can be sold to the highest bidder. That's the truth that the baby-killers don't want you to hear.

[joesnuffy]

Mengelev has nothing on these guys...

[firebrand]

reducing the contents of the skull

In other words, it's similar to having a couple of drinks.

[mabelkitty]

Let's keep Santorum vs. Clinton audio and transcript handy.
The smackdown in the Senate over partial-birth.

[I still care]

How do you like this lie, from the linked article:

"Doctors say the procedures decrease the frequency of surgical instrument insertions into a woman, eliminate the dangers that parts of a broken fetus might be left behind and give couples an intact fetus to grieve over."

To grieve over? A baby with a crushed head? Give me a break.

[Esther Ruth]

Adding insult to injury, I have heard that parents who have had this procedure done, that they bring the child's remains home and have memorial services for them.

[Sender]

The abortionists even fought the 'born alive' law that says if an attempted abortion comes out alive, it must be kept alive. They formerly just 'sat the baby down' somewhere until it died.

[Think free or die]

"Adding insult to injury, I have heard that parents who have had this procedure done, that they bring the child's remains home and have memorial services for them."

My husband and I lost 5 children to miscarriage before our two sons were born. A clueless relative recently sent me some very dark poetry written by a man who had, with his wife, elected to abort a malformed baby. In my relative's mind, these situations were the same and I should somehow relate to this other set of parents. While I understand the pain of having something go wrong with a pregnancy, I can't fathom aborting the baby and then going on to grieve as though it were just another death in the family.

[jwalsh07]

I've watched my wife and my daughter grieve over miscarriages. It broke my heart.

[Think free or die]

It's difficult. It made me a better mother to the two who survived. Our sons sometimes talk about how grand it would have been to have had all those siblings. I often wonder what our angels would have been like, had they lived.

[Frapster]

I agree but I would go further. The issue is the potentiality of the human life. Conception is when life begins.