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US officials knew Al-Qaeda planned plane attacks, claims whistleblower
AFP | 4/02/04

Posted on 04/02/2004 1:56:10 AM PST by kattracks

LONDON (AFP) - US officials knew months before September 11, 2001, that the Al-Qaeda network planned to use aircraft to commit a terrorist attack, according to a former FBI (news - web sites) translator interviewed in a British newspaper.

Sibel Edmonds told the Independent daily that a claim by US President George W. Bush (news - web sites)'s national security advisor Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) that there had been no such warnings was "an outrageous lie".

The former translator with the Federal Bureau of Investigation said that she has provided information about her claims to a US commission investigating the September 11 attacks.

Edmonds told the Independent: "There was general information about the timeframe, about methods to be used -- but not specifically about how they would be used -- and about people being in place and who was ordering these sorts of terror attacks.

"There were other cities that were mentioned. Major cities -- with skyscrapers."

The 33-year-old Turkish-American translator said that based on documents she had seen during her time with the FBI, after September 11, it was "impossible" that US intelligence officials had no forewarning of the attacks.

Bush's administration is currently under investigation for its anti-terrorism policies before and after the strikes on New York and Washington that claimed some 3,000 lives.

The Independent reported that the administration had sought to silence Edmonds and had obtained a gagging order from a court.

Edmonds was one of many language experts who answered appeals for translators in the days following the attacks using hijacked airliners.

She was tasked with translating documents and recordings from FBI wire taps.

From the documents, she said, it was clear that there was sufficient information in spring and summer 2001 to indicate that an attack was being planned.

"President Bush said they had no specific information about 11 September and that is accurate but only because he said 11 September," Edmonds told the Independent.

There was, however, general information about the use of airplanes and that an attack was just months away.

A White House official said Thursday that Rice would testify under oath on April 8 before the commission investigating September 11.

Bush's administration was last week accused by former White House anti-terrorism czar Richard Clarke of not giving the al-Qaeda threat enough priority.

Clarke, who left the White House last year, testified in public before the September 11 commission last week, just after the publication of his book which was highly critical of the Bush administration for its counter-terrorist efforts.



TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; bush43; sibeledmonds
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To: TomGuy
"Bush's administration is currently under investigation for its anti-terrorism policies before and after the strikes on New York and Washington that claimed some 3,000 lives. "

I'm sorry. When did this become an investigation into the Bush presidency? I thought the commission was convened to look into both administrations policies and how we can circumvent any terrorist activity in the future.

Apparently McAuliffe got to this one also.



21 posted on 04/02/2004 6:41:57 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz
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To: SpyGuy
"...the intelligence information buried in those materials had not been translated, analyzed, or disseminated prior to September 11, as Edmonds even admits."

She actually is confessing that SHE failed to translate the materials in a timely manner!

22 posted on 04/02/2004 7:27:47 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: InfraRed
or grab a straw and claim it's a needle....
23 posted on 04/02/2004 7:30:43 AM PST by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: kattracks
here she is


24 posted on 04/02/2004 7:32:04 AM PST by petercooper (It's obvious, common sense is not prerequisite to voting rights.)
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To: kattracks
It is easy to go back over the traffic and chatter and find clues to 9-11 AFTER THE FACT. So what?

Let's give her a test. We'll let her translate documents for the next month, then she will be required to predict what will happen in the next 6 months. If she is wrong, we'll fly her into a building. ARRRGGH!

25 posted on 04/02/2004 7:35:06 AM PST by TankerKC (Clogged Arteries and Still Smilin'!)
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To: kabar
AQ came up with a tactical surprise that was beyond the imagination of the intelligence community. Only Tom Clancy conceived of such a thing.

Nonsense. Nixon knew in 1969 that domestic anti-war terrorists had talked of crashing passenger jets into targets. One such plan attempted by a crazy man out of the Baltimore airport was thwarted in the early 70's. It was in the news, but people forget I guess.

26 posted on 04/02/2004 7:48:01 AM PST by Poincare
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To: Poincare
The operative word is a crazy man. I am sure that there are thousands of scenarios of how terrorists could and may attack us. You don't have the resources to protect against all threats. The car and truck bomb have been used repeatedly throughout the 70s, 80s, etc. Perhaps, we become victims of fighting the last war, but you tend to defend against what has already been used successfully against you than one which has never been used before.

I do recall an economic conference in Bologna that Bush attended, which included air defense measures. I would have to check to see if that was before or after 9/11.

27 posted on 04/02/2004 7:57:33 AM PST by kabar
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To: Poincare
The threat has been known and talked about in certain circles for decades. Remember a fellow who crashed his light plane on the White House lawn several years, damaging one of the Magnolias that Andy Jackson planted (the bastard, the pilot, not Andy Jackson)

I'd also discussed this kind of threat with people who knew about such things. The White House security responded then by deploying agents with Stinger type anti-aircraft missiles.

No, it wasn't a new or surprise threat. Preventing such atrocities is another matter entirely.

What needs to be hammered home - the types of preventive strategies necessary to thwart suicidal maniacs are EXACTLY the kinds of things that so-called "liberals" would never have contemplated in the first place. 9/11 could not have been prevented with the current crop of politicians and assorted kool-aid drinkers.
28 posted on 04/02/2004 7:57:51 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: kabar
The operative word is a crazy man.

Of course he was deemed crazy by the media--no surprize given the "unthinkable" horror of his intention using a fully loaded airliner. But the fact remains that he acted on an idea that was in circulation as early as 1967.

29 posted on 04/02/2004 8:12:04 AM PST by Poincare
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To: Freedom4US
Defending the White House against piper cubs with stinger missiles is different from defending Washington against hijacked US civilian airlines with suicidal pilots crashing them into buildings and monuments.

It was the Genoa Summit (not Bologna) in July 2001, which Bush attended. The Italians went to extraordinary lengths to protect against an air attack including anti-aircraft missiles and cordoning off the air space over the conference meeting site. I think it would be worthwhile to look into the threat assessment for that event and why those measures were taken.

30 posted on 04/02/2004 8:19:15 AM PST by kabar
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To: kattracks
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1107644/posts

The above link goes to the Senate report that says there were a number of non-specific hints that terrorists might use an airplane or hijack an airplane.

Condi Rice was not referring to that, and this "whistleblower" isn't nearly as smart as she thinks she is.

Condi refers to specific warnings that airliners would be hijacked and flown into the WTC.
31 posted on 04/02/2004 8:20:20 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
Hosni Mubarak said his government provided information to the United States about possible attacks on the Genoa summit by Saudi-born terrorist Osama bin Laden. ...
www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/ nation/la-092701genoa.story -
32 posted on 04/02/2004 8:28:47 AM PST by kabar
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To: xzins
The Italian authorities' security measures also include the positioning of surface-to-air missiles at Genoa's Christopher Columbus airport. Dubbed the SPADA, the land-based system consists of missiles capable of a range of 15 kilometres (9.3 miles).

The ministry said the decision to install the missiles is not excessive.

"There's no excessive precaution," military spokesman Colonel Alberto Battaglini told Reuters. "The measure, which was planned by the previous government, may seem open to criticism, but in reality it is merely to act as a deterrent against any aerial incursion during the summit."

33 posted on 04/02/2004 8:32:26 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
Which is further proof that Osama was a problem....something that wasn't in dispute.

Clinton just didn't do anything about it.
34 posted on 04/02/2004 8:33:12 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: kabar
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I keep getting the above when I try your link. Can you fix it?

In any case, when I was in the Army, they ALWAYS set up Air Defense Artillery near the locations of general-level meetings. Not because they expected the aircraft to crash into the facility, but because they expected attacks of ANY variety.

But...to protect the president and other world leaders does not lead to the conclusion that the WTC will be hit by airliners flown by suicidal islamo-fascists.
35 posted on 04/02/2004 8:38:58 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: kattracks
This translator did not even start working for the FBI until AFTER 9-11. She claims that on her first day on the job all the middle eastern translators in the FBI were celebrating the attack on the WTC.

Celebrating 9/11 at the FBI

By Paul Sperry
FrontPageMagazine.com | February 11, 2004

When linguist Sibel Dinez Edmonds showed up for her first day of work at the FBI, a week after the 9-11 attacks, she expected to find a somber atmosphere. Instead, she was offered cookies filled with dates from party bowls set out in the room where other Middle Eastern linguists with top-secret security clearance translate terror-related communications.

She knew the dessert is customarily served in the Middle East at weddings, births and other celebrations, and asked what the happy occasion was. To her shock, she was told the Arab linguists were celebrating the terrorist attacks on America, as if they were some joyous event. Right in front of her supervisor, one translator cheered:

"It's about time they got a taste of what they've been giving the Middle East."

She found out later that it was her supervisor's wife who helped organize the office party there at the bureau's Washington field office, just four blocks from the J. Edgar Hoover Building.

"This guy's wife brought the date-filled cookies for the celebration," Edmonds, 33, recalled.

At the time, the supervisor, Mike Feghali, a naturalized
U.S. citizen from Beirut, was in charge of the FBI's Turkish and Farsi desks.

But he's been promoted since then, and now also runs the all-important Arabic desk, which is key to intercepting the next al-Qaida plot.

It gets worse.

The language service squad is the front line in the FBI's war on terrorism, collecting all foreign language tips, information and terrorist threats to homeland security. Agents act on what the squad translates and reports. The sooner they get the information, the sooner they can thwart terrorist attacks. Investigators had missed clues to both the 2001 and 1993 World Trade Center attacks because they were buried in a backlog of untranslated wiretaps and documents in Arabic.

Despite the backlog, Feghali told Edmonds and other translators to just let the work pile higher, according to Edmonds. Why? Money. She says Feghali, who has recruited family and friends to work with him at the high-paying language unit, argued that Congress would approve an even bigger budget for it if they could continue to show big backlogs.

"We were told to take long breaks, to slow down translations, and to simply say 'no' to those field agents calling us to beg for speedy translations so that they could go on with their investigations and interrogations of those they had detained," said Edmonds, who was fired without specified cause by the FBI after she reported breaches in security, mistranslations and potential espionage by Middle Eastern colleagues.

She claims Feghali actually tampered with her work to slow her down.

"My supervisor went as far as getting into my work computer and deleting almost completed work so that I had to go back and start all over again," she said.

Edmonds, a Turkish-American who is not a practicing Muslim, made the allegations last month in a 9-page letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

She also claims that Feghali threatened to sue the bureau for racial discrimination, but dropped the suit once the bureau promoted him, says Edmonds and other sources. The FBI, which like the army suffers from a severe shortage of Arabic translators, instated a bureau-wide Muslim-sensitivity training program after 9-11.

Reached by phone at his Maryland home, Feghali was brusque and refused to talk about the allegations.

"I'm not at liberty to discuss this thing, OK?" he said before abruptly hanging up.

The spokesperson for the FBI's Washington field office, Debbie Weierman, did not return repeated phone calls.

Feghali, who holds several foreign language degrees, has been an FBI language specialist for several years. He was a key translator in the government's case against al-Qaida operatives charged in the U.S. embassy bombing in Kenya, and even testified in court.

Sources say he is planning to move back to Lebanon
.

A key player in the 9-11 plot and the likely pilot of United Airlines Flight 93, the suicide plane that crashed apparently en route to the U.S. Capitol, was Ziad Samir Jarrah, a Lebanese.

Edmonds has also complained about Feghali and other Middle Eastern translators to the Justice Department inspector general.

And on Wednesday, she is scheduled to give a detailed briefing to members of the 9-11 commission in a secure room here.

She claims terrorist "investigations are being compromised," and has demanded an independent probe of the FBI's language department.

"If there were, and are, persons within the language department that either intentionally prevented translation because of their agendas, or persons who were, and are, not qualified to properly translate, it is likely that terrorist communications prior to 9-11 were missed; and it is likely that current and future terrorist communications will likewise be missed," Edmonds wrote Justice's Inspector General Glenn A. Fine in a Jan. 5 letter. "I have alleged, and the FBI has confirmed (to Senate investigators), that there are in fact such persons in the language department."

Fine still has not released the findings of his internal probe, even though Edmonds first filed her complaint with his office almost two years ago. Speaking for Fine, Justice official Carol Ochoa said the investigation is "still ongoing."

"We are working hard to complete it expeditiously," she said in a Jan. 6 letter to Edmonds.
Now if you believe that the FBI translators were all celbrating the attack on the US, then I suppose you can believe her when she says she had information that the US knew about 9-11 before it happened.

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She was fired in March of 2002. Probably for good reason. She's a certified whack job.

36 posted on 04/02/2004 8:48:58 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Let your light so shine before men....)
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To: TommyDale
She actually is confessing that SHE failed to translate the materials in a timely manner!

It would have been impossible for her to translate the materials in a timely matter to prevent the attacks: she was hired by the FBI for the translation job AFTER September 11.

37 posted on 04/02/2004 9:15:14 AM PST by SpyGuy
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To: TommyDale
How is that, she was not hired until after the attacks happened.
38 posted on 04/02/2004 9:25:05 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: P-Marlowe
"She was fired in March of 2002. Probably for good reason. She's a certified whack job."

How do you get that, from her claims that the other translators were celebrating, working slow on purpose, etc.? Sounds pretty bad to me, plus the fact that the supervisor was promoted. If she is telling the truth, then something needs to be done internally at the FBI. Yes, it is kinda suspicious about what she is saying and when, but let's not just dismiss her as a whack job or whatever. Also, I don't know how she can say that the administration had this info, considering the fact that they had a backlog of stuff and that they took their sweet time translating it. Maybe the supervisor/translators was not interested in letting the administration know that it was going to happen.
39 posted on 04/02/2004 9:40:02 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: looscnnn
Still, the documents were not translated until AFTER September 11th. There was such a shortage in the intelligence community since Jimmy Carter's days that nothing could be done about it anyway. So whose fault is it?
40 posted on 04/02/2004 9:42:28 AM PST by TommyDale
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