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Bizzare Twist at Beaver (Hoffa Hoax?)
BassFan.com ^ | 1 April 2004

Posted on 04/10/2004 2:37:29 PM PDT by annyokie

Bizarre Twist at Beaver 4/1/2004

In what is certainly one (if not the most) bizarre events in the history of professional bass fishing, Paul Elias hooked and boated a black leather wallet this morning. Big deal, right? Well, this wallet contained the drivers license, several credit cards and UAW Local 108 membership card of long missing and suspected murdered union boss James Hoffa. A hoax? Apparently not.

Arkansas State Police were called to the lake, and 20 acres of prime water was immediately cordoned off as a crime scene. Elias said he hooked the wallet in "about 20 feet of water." According to Arkansas State Police spokesman Art Kellen, the wallet had been in the water for some time, but the ID was preserved because plastic is slow to break down.

Divers were called to the scene and in the lake's clear water quickly located a pair of concrete blocks with men's black wingtip-style shoes molded in to them. "The shoes match the general description of the color and type of shoes Mr. Hoffa was known to be wearing the day that he disappeared, according to the Detroit police," stated Arkansas State Police investigator George Skully. He added: "The northern boys (Detroit Metro Police) are sending a man down right away, and he should be here in a few hours."

Elias told BassFan that he was shocked when he saw what he had. "My first thought was that someone would be glad to get their wallet back. But when I looked through it, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I thought it was a joke until I got to that Michigan driver's license. I remember what that whole deal was, and I recognized the name and picture right away."

BassFan will continue to follow this story as it develops.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: hoffa; jimmyhoffa; redfox
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I don't know if this is true, but it isn't filed as a hoax in this newsletter.
1 posted on 04/10/2004 2:37:29 PM PDT by annyokie
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To: annyokie
I don't know if this is true...

Does the date April 1st mean anything to you?

2 posted on 04/10/2004 2:39:31 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: annyokie
Hooked a bas*, huh?
3 posted on 04/10/2004 2:40:41 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: TexasCajun
That's why I am skeptical.
4 posted on 04/10/2004 2:41:57 PM PDT by annyokie (There are two sides to every argument, but I'm too busy to listen to yours.)
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To: martin_fierro
ping
5 posted on 04/10/2004 2:49:05 PM PDT by annyokie (There are two sides to every argument, but I'm too busy to listen to yours.)
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To: annyokie
If you dump a body into this particular lake, after about 18 months the billfold and ID will be nothing but slime. uhhh...... that's what I've been told, its not like i have any firsthand experience.
6 posted on 04/10/2004 2:58:18 PM PDT by AlbertWang
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To: annyokie
All fishermen are liars, except you and me.
7 posted on 04/10/2004 2:59:41 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage
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To: annyokie
Anyone know what kind of line he was using? 10lb test, 12lb test? What kind of rig? Sliding sinker with 24inch leader? Was he using a Ranger Bass Boat with a Merc? Tell us the important stuff!!!!
8 posted on 04/10/2004 3:07:09 PM PDT by Blue Screen of Death (,/i)
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To: Blue Screen of Death
Any one who fishes off a boat other than a Javelin with an Evinrude 200 HP motor is a piker. (A little fishing humor there.)
9 posted on 04/10/2004 3:12:40 PM PDT by annyokie (There are two sides to every argument, but I'm too busy to listen to yours.)
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To: AlbertWang
"If you dump a body into this particular lake, after about 18 months the billfold and ID will be nothing but slime. uhhh...... that's what I've been told, its not like i have any firsthand experience"

Sorry to disagree with ya! I checked and was still able to read the stuff in Nylon Type Wallets with no problems!

By the way thanks for causing me to freeze my butt off, and catch this horrible cold!!! ;->

10 posted on 04/10/2004 3:18:01 PM PDT by Dacus943
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To: annyokie
Geez, I liked the idea that Hoffa was holding up some corner of a high-rise.
11 posted on 04/10/2004 3:26:23 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: annyokie
Arkansas...?
12 posted on 04/10/2004 3:27:51 PM PDT by gg188
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To: annyokie
"George Skully"

( x-files theme music..)
13 posted on 04/10/2004 3:31:48 PM PDT by wolficatZ (___><))))*>____)
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To: annyokie
I thought it was a joke until I got to that Michigan driver's license. I remember what that whole deal was, and I recognized the name and picture right away."

BZZZZZT! The story almost had an inkling of believability to it until the writer slipped up with the picture onm the Michigan license. No state put pictures on their drivers license in the 60's. Laminated, too!

Happy April Fools!

14 posted on 04/10/2004 3:51:52 PM PDT by woofer
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...and UAW Local 108 membership card...

Uhhhh, Hoffa was a Teamster - Not UAW.

Entertainment Score = 9 1/2. :)

15 posted on 04/10/2004 3:59:24 PM PDT by Diver Dave
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Arkansas...?

Yeah, Arkansas. Of particular interest for two reasons. One being that it was in an Arkansas lake that one of the weapons used in the RFK murder was found, and also because Arkansas is gas-tank close to Memphis, center of operations for Jimmy Hoffa's adopted son and heir Chuckie O'Brian.

16 posted on 04/10/2004 4:33:37 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: woofer; spatzie
BZZZZZT! The story almost had an inkling of believability to it until the writer slipped up with the picture onm the Michigan license. No state put pictures on their drivers license in the 60's. Laminated, too!

Not so. Hoffa didn't disappear fromn the parking lot of the Machus' Red Fox Restaurant in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan on Detroit's northside until July 30, 1975. And on and off from 1970 to 1975 I was a bouncer and doorman at nightclub and biker bar on the Illinois state line across from a junior college town when Indiana had a 21-year-old drinking age and Illinois' was 19. Both states had photos on their driver's licenses, and so did Michigan, which has used photographs since 1965.

The story may or may not be a hoax. But not on the basis of a driver's license photo. That detail is correct.


17 posted on 04/10/2004 4:50:20 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: annyokie
I don't know if this is true, but it isn't filed as a hoax in this newsletter

See following previous FReeppost.

18 posted on 04/10/2004 4:56:32 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: gg188
Arkansas...?

Arkansas.


19 posted on 04/10/2004 5:38:31 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: archy
Does the fact that the article is dated April 1 make one think that maybe this is an April Fool's joke?
20 posted on 04/10/2004 6:28:15 PM PDT by gg188
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