Iraqis vow to kill and mutilate U.S. hostage

bostonherald.com ^ | Sunday, April 11, 2004 | Associated Press

[Destro]

Iraqis vow to kill, maim U.S. hostage

By Associated Press

Sunday, April 11, 2004

FALLUJAH, Iraq -Militants yesterday threatened to kill and mutilate an American civilian they captured Friday if U.S. troops don't withdraw from Fallujah.

Thomas Hamill, whose capture during another convoy ambush in the area, was the latest in a series of kidnappings in Iraq.

``Our only demand is to remove the siege from the city of mosques,'' a spokesman said in a videotape given to the al-Jazeera television network that shows footage of Hamill.

``If you don't respond within 12 hours . . . he will be treated worse than those who were killed and burned in Fallujah'' - referring to the Americans whose bodies were mutilated and two of them hanged from a Euphrates River bridge.

On the tape, Hamill gives his name and says he is 43 and from Mississippi. Part of the footage has no audio but shows him standing in front of an Iraqi flag emblazoned with the words ``Allahu Akbar,'' or God is great. A TV announcer quotes him as saying his captors were not mistreating him.

``I am in good shape. I work for a private company that supports the military action,'' (Halliburton) the voice-over says, a likely reference to private U.S. firms that provide security in Iraq.

``I want my family to know that these people are taking care of me, and provide me with food, water and a place to sleep.''

Two U.S. servicemembers and several contract employees were still unaccounted for from attacks on Friday, a Pentagon spokesman, Lt. Commander Dan Hetlage, said yesterday.

There was some confusion of how many hostages were being held and by whom.

The New York Times reported that a tape shown repeatedly on Arab television showed a group of armed and masked insurgents claiming to hold 39 foreigners hostage.

One of the Iraqis says, ``We have Japanese, Bulgarian, Israeli, American, Spanish and Korean hostages. Their numbers are 30.''

He added, ``If America doesn't lift its blockade of Fallujah, their heads will be cut off.''

The tape didn't show any hostages, and it was impossible to confirm that such a group was being held.

Other militants continued to hold hostage two aid workers - a Canadian and an Arab from Jerusalem - but announced they would free three Japanese civilians.

[Destro]

Thomas Hamill is held hostage by Iraqi militants. (AP photo)

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

Just in time for Easter. For their (fake) holy day, we call a cease-fire. For our Holy Day, they torture and mutilate a Christian on camera for all the word to see.

These are not men. They are demons.

Keep the Lord in your heart, Mr. Hamill. God be with you.

[armyboy]

i'd like to bomb Fallujah off the face of the earth.

[faithincowboys]

God, I hope he doesn't get killed. We are dealing with animals. I think we need to do more to take these people out. Step 1 MOAB Fallujah and Ramadi. Step 2 Repeat Step 1.

[dandelion]

He is laid on my heart, and I have been praying all night for him. I know I am not alone in my prayers - and because I am not alone in my prayers, neither is he.

God is with this man.

[XHogPilot]

I work for a private company that supports the military action,'' (Halliburton) the voice-over says

The zots at DU are gonna go wild over this!

[hershey]

Adults know we can't run war on a personal level. We don't negotiate and put the rest of our armed forces at risk for the sake of one person or one hundred. We're not trying to make Iraqi lives better because we want Euroweenies and monsters like Arafat and Al Sadr, bin Laden, et. al. to like us. If we don't take care of business now, we can kiss a modern, peaceful Middle East goodbye. It's a matter of pay me now or pay me later. Postphoning the inevitable, and frankly, the longer this goes on, the greater the weaponry expended and the greater the possibility that we'll have to nuke someone after they nuke us -- which our Euroweenie allies won't like. To this end, Bush has to forget the election and poll numbers and micromanaging the war. Bush has to concentrate on letting the military do what they do best, with all the equipment they need. His first priority is to protect this country, and that's what Iraq is all about. Simple.

[jazzlite]

Dear Thomas, In a few hours many of us will go with grateful hearts to worship a risen Savior who paid the ultimate price for our sins. The same fallen nature which caused his tormenters to capture and torture him is the same fallen nature which resides in those who have taken you. That nature is doomed to eventual failure and the prayers of the people today will bring eventual victory. It is written in the Word. I wish you could know, Thomas, of the love going up to Heaven for you and your family today. Our hearts are broken as we see your picture and we realize your sacrifice for our freedom. I know the Holy Spirit is with you and I am praying that He will effect the hearts and minds of your captors so that they will allow you to go free. It is difficult but we also must pray the words of Jesus as he hung on that cruel cross.."Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."

[ccmay]

Time for full Roman Empire mode. Kill everything alive in Fallujah, then Ramadi, then ask if anyone else feels like being a smartass...

-ccm

[Fitzcarraldo]

[bluecollarman]

"Iraqis are looking at the images of Fallujah, and wondering if they're looking at the future of the rest of Iraq, should we ever anger the United States." said Iraqi journalist Abbas Ali Saki.

Here is a quote from another aritcle I thought you might find interesting.

[ZULU]

We should tell these people that if they don't let him go, we will hang twenty of their colleagues, selected at random, from terrorist prisoners in our hands.

[jonatron]

I wish they'd let you.

[JOE43270]

My prayers are with Mr. Hamill. This goes back to a man I read about a long time ago now. He was Gunnery Sargeant Carlos Hathcock USMC. He was a marine sniper in Viet-nam. He took out a woman called the Cherokee woman in polite terms because she captured marines and skinned them alive. In my heart and mind, my finger was on that trigger with his. These Iraqi militants or whatever they are better not hurt Mr Hamill or there will a big price to pay whether they get to do things for Allah or not. Like Gunny Hathcock I will be with these MARINES like I was with him.

[foreshadowed at waco]

These are not men. They are demons.

They may not be demons in the strictest sense of the word BUT they appear to worship Satan IMHO. The only "god" who demands human sacrifice and loves to inflict suffering on innocents is the Lord of Darkness.

[TrueBeliever9]

Read that book! Made me double over! Prayers for Hamill are our weapon!

[foreshadowed at waco]

The same fallen nature which caused his tormenters to capture and torture him is the same fallen nature which resides in those who have taken you.

Amen to that. The shame of the despots of the Middle East is that they have taken their once proud people down into the gutter. They have denied them a real education and civil rights. They have let tribalism flourish in order to protect their own power. Now the religious fanatics are stepping in, claiming to really care about their people, and all the while getting their children prepped for suicide and death. They are truly a fallen people.

Prayers for our soldiers and hostages.

[mtbopfuyn]

Prayers to Hamill and his family. He didn't stand a chance from the moment they took him. His blood and all our troops who are harmed are on the hands of Ted and Kerry for encouraging the uprising.

[DCPatriot]

Empathy, thank goodness is no stranger to me.

I try to understand how the Fallajah insurgent was brought to this level of action and hatred.

First,knowing that the trypical Middle-Eastern citizen is going to bet on the strong horse, no matter the rider.

They bet with Saddam Hussein and enjoyed the equivilant...if not monetarily, at least in emotional terms, a lifestyle and comfort the upper middle class enjoy here in the USA.

Nobody questions the entire world is better without Saddam Hussein. Nobody that is except the Baathists who dominate Fallajah.

In the worst case scenario what could we come up with to equate their sudden loss of everything they ever held dear?

Liberals and Conservatives in an actual civil war at a time when somebody like Hillary Clinton or John Kerry occupy the White House?

And the Supreme Court "looks" a lot more Liberal Left than those heady days demonstrating at the Supreme Court in the Election of 2000, doesn't it?

They shut down internet-access in the name of National Security. FreeRepulic is flatlined.

Our taxes get more confiscatory...it gets to be dangerous to be a Conservative on the street. Afterall, we're humans.

Some idiot legislature creates a bill that if passed would allow the government to place GPS chips on all citizens they deemed possibly a danger to "national security".

I'd say all Freepers would instantly become Charter Members. And everything we've ever typed will and can be used as "evidence" to support their charge.

Okay, that's enough of a nightmare to understand just what the young men of Fallajah are feeling against the "occupation".

Their custom has religion influence their behavior and their self-inflicted boundaries in everyday life. When you add their ancient, barbaric interpretation of the Koran to the mix, it spells trouble.

Okay, now we can understand the secular reaons they hate us for invading their world. Because they want to kill you however, you have the DUTY...not the right...to kill them first.

The only real option is to give them a reason to pick up arms and then kill them. So far so good.

Because we're at war I don't believe anything will be done to save these hostages. Remember dozens of innocent American citizens were forced to jump to their deaths on 9/11. We couldn't save them either, despite every camera in the civilized world watching in real time.

God Bless President George Bush. God Bless America.

[mtbopfuyn]

Per Fox - British hostage has been released but not further news.

[Piquaboy]

I don't think that would be PC.

[Archangelsk]

Kurtz:

" I've seen horrors...horrors that you've seen. But you have no right to call me a murderer. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do that...But you have no right to judge me. It's impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror. Horror has a face...And you must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terrorare your friends. If they are not then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies. I remember when I was with Special Forces...Seems a thousand centuries ago...We went into a camp to innoculate the children. We left the camp after we had innoculated the children for Polio, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went back there and they had come and hacked off every innoculated arm. There they were in a pile...A pile of little arms. And I remember...I...I...I cried... I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized...like I was shot...Like I was shot with a diamond...a diamond bullet right through my forehead...And I thought: My God...the genius of that. The genius. The will to do that. Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we. Because they could stand that these were not monsters...These were men...trained cadres...these men who fought with their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with love...but they had the strength...the strength...to do that. If I had ten divisions of those men our troubles here would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are moral...and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordal instincts to kill without feeling...without passion... without judgement...without judgement. Because it's judgement that defeats us. "

[Rummyfan]

Find these sonsofbit**** and kill them!

[Rummyfan]

Find these sonsofbit**** and kill them!

[bulldogs]

"at the same time who are able to utilize their primordal instincts to kill without feeling...without passion... without judgement...without judgement. Because it's judgement that defeats us."


Apocolypse right now?

[Archangelsk]

Yes.

[Chinese_American_Patriot]

Bomb these savages to hell!! You can't negotiate with these sub-humans and showing restriant will only embolden them.

[JasonC]

Vow, vow vow. Bark, bark bark. Talk talk talk.

[af_vet_1981]

May G-d deliver Thomas Hamill from evil.

[Indie]

I am sick of this. Our government handlers should send the islamofascists a letter:

Dear Mr Islamonazi,
For every one of our hostages you decapitate, we will inter 1000 Muslims in the US in concentration camps and strip them of their bank accounts. [IRS tactic]

Note: And that was the "kinder" alternative to what I really had in mind.

[NRA2BFree]

I would like to see Fallujah bombed off the face of the Earth too, but I don't want to stop with Fallujah! None of us will be safe until all of them are dead. It's them or us, and our government better face it and do it NOW. This old BS of waiting for them to attack us again is so stupid. They declared war on us and they must reap what they sowed.

[bulldogs]

Stay strong Patriot, parts California is not the real USA. Glad your one of us.

[fightu4it]

As the liberal media in this country increases it's attack on our President there will be a corresponding increase in the attacks on our troops in Iraq.

The time to make those responsible aware of the consequences of their actions is now, before any more troops are attacked.

[oyez]

Its time to bring back the B-52's and in don't mean the pop group. We should have been able to track the insurgent activity by now. Hook in the JDAM's and have a field day.

[Destro]

The buck stops with this president.

[StriperSniper]

Click on: "Who Let the Pigs In"

[ZULU]

During the war between the states, Union officials decided that any southern "partisans" captured who served under Colonel John S. Mosby were to be summarily hanged on capture. Custer, I believe, carried out this nefarious order.

Mosby responded by hanging Union prisoners.

Hanging of Mosby's men ceased.

It works.