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IRAQ - WHAT TO DO: DROP THE HAMMER NOW
The NY Post ^ | By RALPH PETERS

Posted on 04/12/2004 4:52:44 AM PDT by F14 Pilot

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:20:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

ON Saturday, Iranian agents ambushed an American convoy on the road between Mosul and Akre in Iraq. The attack did not go as planned: Our troops responded sharply, killing two Iranians, wounding a third and capturing two more.

They were carrying their identity documents.


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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alsadr; arclight; b52s; iran; iraq; militia; mullah; ralphpeters; sadr; southwestasia; terror; usa
Bush2004
1 posted on 04/12/2004 4:52:45 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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To: DoctorZIn; McGavin999; freedom44; nuconvert; Eala; AdmSmith; dixiechick2000; onyx; Pro-Bush; ...
PING!
2 posted on 04/12/2004 4:55:18 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (John Fedayeen Kerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: F14 Pilot
With the bulk of them trapped in Fallujah, why on earth let them go to kill our soldiers on another day. Take them prisoner, if they prefer to die then give up that's their choice.
3 posted on 04/12/2004 4:59:03 AM PDT by tioga
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To: F14 Pilot
Hundreds of Iranian agents and fighters have been confirmed to be in Iran.

Good piece. I think the above sentence is a typo, BTW.

- bump -

4 posted on 04/12/2004 5:08:03 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: F14 Pilot
Bush2004

Amen!!

5 posted on 04/12/2004 5:08:10 AM PDT by harpu
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To: Cboldt
to be in Iraq!
6 posted on 04/12/2004 5:11:59 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (John Fedayeen Kerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: F14 Pilot
If we can get all those television images of insurgents walking around with arms, why cannot we get snipers in there to take them out of the picture.
7 posted on 04/12/2004 5:13:05 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: Piquaboy
i am just stunned that we are not fighting to
erase the vermin from the face of the earth!
what the crap is this B.S. cease fire.
note:
politicians get the hell out of the way
let the generals fight this damn war!!!!!!!
8 posted on 04/12/2004 5:34:03 AM PDT by 537cant be wrong (the lib turneraitor)
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To: F14 Pilot
BUMP!
9 posted on 04/12/2004 5:35:27 AM PDT by The Mayor (Death separates us for a time; Christ will reunite us forever.)
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To: Piquaboy
"why cannot we get snipers in there to take them out of the picture"

Hehehehe...we probably are. I've thought the same thing at times and then I had to remember our military is not going to advertise their activities, especially to things like sniper work. Those are very secretive, very quiet. Be assured there are lots of things going on that we may never know anything about. I am quite certain that they are doing a superb job of psych-ops.

I have faith that our boys know how to instill fear in the minds of the jihad's. Remember, the "not knowing" works on the minds of the jihadis even more so than we may get worked up about.

10 posted on 04/12/2004 5:39:40 AM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals are the real Mind-Numbed Robots - No Brains, No Guts, No Character)
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To: el_texicano
I particularly liked the idea of allowing a convoy of Sadr
supporters into Fallajah... it could easily have been diverted -- letting them into the "roach motel" makes 'em easier to stomp out.
11 posted on 04/12/2004 5:45:14 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: F14 Pilot
As this column reported last week, the extent of Iranian involvement in the recent revolt goes very deep.

Yeah, they've been mixed up in this since just after major combat ended last year.

But our troops will get it done. They've made great strides in the last few days in getting things back under control.

It's almost like we're fighting Iran on Iraq's soil right now.

If it keeps up, I hope we take the fight right next door...to the east.

12 posted on 04/12/2004 5:45:51 AM PDT by Allegra (And WAIT!! That's not all! Call now and receive this FREE....)
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To: F14 Pilot
Good article. NY Post has been doing a good job.
13 posted on 04/12/2004 5:46:38 AM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( President Bush 3-20-04))
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To: Allegra
Now is the time to take out the Iranian nuclear reactor with a stromg word to Iran.

Remove them now or you are next once we are finished here. And then deploy twenty thousand troops to the Iranian border.


14 posted on 04/12/2004 5:50:05 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz
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To: chilepepper
Remember that we have taken Fallujah again in less than 3 days.
15 posted on 04/12/2004 5:50:17 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (John Fedayeen Kerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: 537cant be wrong
Vietnam was lost by politicians fighting the war and the same thing can happen in Iraq.
16 posted on 04/12/2004 5:51:56 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: 537cant be wrong
politicians get the hell out of the way let the generals fight this damn war!!!!!!!

President Bush has no choice.

Either he defeats them here, and imposes peace on Iraq, or he goes home in January.

The counsels of defeat in Iraq are also counsels of defeat in the election. W has nothing to lose here.

17 posted on 04/12/2004 5:55:10 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: F14 Pilot
We were assured that force would be met with "overwhelming" force. This did not happen.

"Measured responce" are dirtywords that have crept into the government dialogue.

If "compromise" is added, then indeed the whiff of Chamberlain will complete the picture.

18 posted on 04/12/2004 5:56:32 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: F14 Pilot
There must be some sort of condition that describes the Bush administration's aversion to closing borders. They never closed our borders after 9-11, and they have not closed either the Syrian or Iranian border in Iraq. Most troubling.
19 posted on 04/12/2004 6:00:55 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: All
Iran leader sees U.S. 'vulnerable' in Iraq

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 12, 2004

Posted on 04/11/2004 10:48:52 PM PDT by F14 Pilot

Ex-president calls America 'wounded monster,' says military defeat would be 'valuable lesson'

WASHINGTON – Providing yet more evidence that Iran is actively supporting the Shiite guerrilla forces battling U.S.-led coalition, former Iranian President Ayatollah Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani said the American military forces are vulnerable, describing them as a "wounded monster," and suggesting defeat would provide a "valuable lesson" for the West.

Rafsanjani, chairman of the powerful Expediency Council in Iran, says America's vulnerability in Iraq makes Iran stronger.

During Friday prayers, broadcast live by Iranian radio, Rafsanjani said deep relations between the people of Iran and the people of Iraq are causing problems for America.

"America had entered the region in order to set up a base right outside our borders, but such a base will no longer materialize," he said. "We have small accounts with the Americans which we must settle one day and bring the issue to a close."

Rafsanjani praised Moqtada Al-Sadr's "heroic" Mahdi militia.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1115819/posts
20 posted on 04/12/2004 6:02:27 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (John Fedayeen Kerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: F14 Pilot
Howcome we don't have our B52s back in the theater? They got the attention of the Republican Guard units REAL good during the 1991 war, and the ones who survived the arclight bombings got the word across to their friends and neighbors. I don't know that bringing back the BUFFs would be the answer, but at least for Fallujah, it'd be a start.
21 posted on 04/12/2004 6:04:49 AM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: Jim Noble
What do you think will be the subject with Mubarek today?

Will he be told to get onboard, or will it only be about Sharon/Gaza?
22 posted on 04/12/2004 6:12:10 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (" Permitting homosexuality didn't work out very well for the Roman Empire")
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To: Finalapproach29er
What do you think will be the subject with Mubarek today?

He's going to try to sell W the same old rug.

23 posted on 04/12/2004 6:19:53 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: el_texicano
Why snipers?

Why not a more encompassing, more generalized solution?
Why not a MOAB or two, or three, or...
24 posted on 04/12/2004 6:26:56 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Redbob
Well, when you are working with the world looking over your shoulder, things can get complicated. I don't like it either. Personally, I say kick out the media and unleash hell.

I understand your feelings though. If it were that simple, I would agree that we need to "MOAB" the hell out of them. The Truman solution in my mind would be the best. Yet, the situation is not that simple.

But I suspect there are still 'innocent' civilians still in the city willingly or as human shields. Plus, there is probably an infrastructure there that we don't want to destroy unless we have to.

25 posted on 04/12/2004 7:22:51 AM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals are the real Mind-Numbed Robots - No Brains, No Guts, No Character)
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To: F14 Pilot
Bump for later.
26 posted on 04/12/2004 8:30:02 AM PDT by Valin (Hating people is like burning down your house to kill a rat)
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To: F14 Pilot
It's Hammer Dropping Time ~ Right Now ~ Bump!

We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists, democrats and the mainstream media are sad ~ very sad!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~

27 posted on 04/12/2004 8:54:22 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Jim Noble
so with nothing to lose darn it G.W.
drop the hammer and put your eggs
in the victory column.

go USA
28 posted on 04/12/2004 10:10:56 AM PDT by 537cant be wrong (the lib turneraitor)
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To: Piquaboy
oh its very probable that if we are worried about image
we will lose this thing, and ketchup boy (who is a
loser social engineer)read: take your money and redistribute it to those sucking on the teet
of government, we are truely doomed.

G_d bless our troops.
29 posted on 04/12/2004 10:15:17 AM PDT by 537cant be wrong (the lib turneraitor)
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To: blackie
We should take out Iran now--The longer we wait the worse it gets. Remember--they who are not with us, are with the terrorists? Talk about WMDs--Iran is working on one now. But, I fear, this will not happen. The wimp factor is taking hold. The terrorists know that the best way to win is by getting Kerry in power. So, they will make Bush look bad every way they can. Kidnappings, burning a few G.I.s, making Iraq look like a lawless jungle will all serve them better than a strike on US. In fact--a terrorist strike would only HELP Bush win re-election. Predictions:
1. There will be no terrorist strikes on US (other places yes but not till November 10)
2. There will be more terrible things happen in Iraq with the victims US People--not soldiers.
3. More pressure from UN, Dimocrats, Liberals, and anti-war groups and Europeeans to pull out.
Look to October as a month of Horror in Iraq in an attempt to influnce the election.
Be on guard! If Kerry gets in it will be the end of the Us as we know it.
30 posted on 04/12/2004 10:26:14 AM PDT by Hollywoodghost (Let he who would be free strike the first blow)
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To: Hollywoodghost
Right-on ~ Be Ever Vigilant!
31 posted on 04/12/2004 10:48:17 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: F14 Pilot
How many countries are going to join the mix of these killers before we stop them?

I say lets get the Lib media OUT, and go in there in take this city with a swift shock & awe repeat. I don't want to step on our Constitution, but this is war and the media is just putting a lib spin on most every report. We owe it to our troops to get this city under control fast.
The last I knew reporters shoot a camera not a weapon so either they pick up a riffle and help, or start reporting the truth and help. Either way put up or shut up!!
32 posted on 04/12/2004 11:01:05 AM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Let's turn Iraqi sand into some useful glass!)
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To: F14 Pilot
It should be clear that the softer-gentler-let's-take-into-account-the-sensibilities-of-our-enemies approach to war fighting is a losing strategy. It failed in Korea. It failed in Vietnam. And it will fail in the Middle East. Nobody wants to see innocent civilians killed, but if it has to happen, the blame falls on these murdering, backward thugs who wish to enslave entire populations -- not on America who wishes to free them.
33 posted on 04/12/2004 3:02:37 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: F14 Pilot

34 posted on 04/12/2004 3:08:46 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Freedom is not free)
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To: F14 Pilot
Most Iraqis are sitting on the fence waiting to see who is stronger. If we fail to meet the challenge to our authority, we lose the majority of the population. I hope that our diplomats don't convince Bush that world opinion will be against him or that the Iraqi populace will rise up against us if we take strong measures. We have heard that before about the Arab street. Having lived in the Middle East for 7 years, a show of strength is the only answer. Anything else is considered weakness. Notice how Hamas has been quiet lately since the Israelis got rid of their leader.
35 posted on 04/12/2004 3:17:21 PM PDT by kabar
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To: 537cant be wrong
bump
36 posted on 04/12/2004 5:23:28 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: F14 Pilot
Thanks for the ping!
37 posted on 04/12/2004 10:55:49 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: kabar
And the wrangling about the 9-11 commission in the news and the press saying that Iraq is Bush's Vietnam only makes us and our president look weak.
38 posted on 04/12/2004 11:04:59 PM PDT by alaskanfan
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To: F14 Pilot
This guy nailed it.
39 posted on 04/12/2004 11:08:39 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: nutmeg
bttt
40 posted on 04/12/2004 11:10:01 PM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John Fin al-Qerry)
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Former Iran president says US spending US$1 Billion per week to spread corruption in Iraq

AlBawba News Line ^ | 12-04-2004 | AlBawba News Line

Posted on 04/12/2004 10:22:01 PM PDT by F14 Pilot

The former Iranian President, Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, has chided Islamic countries for remaining indifferent to his claim the US spending one billion dollars per week to spread corruption in Iraq, IRIB website reported.

"America today spends one billion dollars each week to block the way of God and spread corruption and insecurity in Iraq and the region, but those who must defend Islam fail (to address the issue)," he said Monday at a nationwide charity forum.

"Against such a heavy spending by America, the Islamic states are looking at regional developments with indifference," said Rafsanjani, who heads the arbitrative Expediency Council.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1116546/posts
41 posted on 04/12/2004 11:11:29 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (John Fedayeen Kerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

42 posted on 04/12/2004 11:12:19 PM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John Fin al-Qerry)
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To: el_texicano
I am quite certain that they are doing a superb job of psych-ops.

**

I pray you are right. But we need to get those psych-ops people working also on the media in this country who keep singing the Quagmire Chorus, the lyrics of which inundate the thinking of the many underinformed voters in this country.
43 posted on 04/13/2004 6:46:33 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: nutmeg
Thanks for the flag.
44 posted on 04/13/2004 6:53:17 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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