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PETA Plans 'Live Make-Out' Show On State Street
Wisc TV ^ | 4/9/4

Posted on 04/12/2004 7:16:34 AM PDT by presidio9

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To: Just another Joe
I don't know about Kansas City, but I can tell you that these nuts are highly active in New York.
61 posted on 04/12/2004 11:27:00 AM PDT by presidio9 ("See, mother, I make all things new.")
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To: nobody in particular
All of Gods creatures have their place.

Right next to the mashed potatoes.

62 posted on 04/12/2004 11:31:45 AM PDT by SGCOS
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To: Oberon; presidio9
It's a santeria/voodoo remedy for men who behave badly or getting a man to do what the woman wants. A woman can be a victim of plate steaming as well esp. if dealing with a vengeful female. It's putting a hot plate of food in a very *ahem* strategic position and saying whatever prayer/incantation the person wants to. That's the cleaned version of it :)
63 posted on 04/12/2004 11:33:54 AM PDT by cyborg (GO CONDI GO!)
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To: cyborg
Anytime they tell me this crap about eating meat, I remind them that Hitler was a vegetarian :)

LOL... they hate that. I, too have skewered a few animal-rights vegan whackos with that bit of trivia.

Adolf Hitler: Vegitarian, concerned animal lover and all-around moral sophisticate.

64 posted on 04/12/2004 11:35:34 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: presidio9
New York... yes sure where people used to chain themselves to gates at Macy's to protest fur.
65 posted on 04/12/2004 11:36:26 AM PDT by cyborg (GO CONDI GO!)
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To: Charles Martel
It must be working because I've seen some vegan sites try to debunk that. They can't because it's in a lot of his writing AND testimony *lol*
66 posted on 04/12/2004 11:37:31 AM PDT by cyborg (GO CONDI GO!)
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To: presidio9
While the PETA crowd are a bunch of fruitcakes who want to tear down capitalism using their over-sentimentalization of animals as an excuse, we might do well to remember that in Eden Man only had permission to eat of the plants, and that it is only after the flood that we were blessed to eat meat.

Orthodox Christian monastics do not eat the flesh of living creatures except for fish and shellfish, and all Orthodox abstain from eating all products--not just flesh--derived of creatures with a backbone when fasting as a recollection of Paradise. (I think the exception for invertebrates is to allow us to imitate the asceticism of the Holy Prophet, Forerunner and Baptist John, and I've heard fish eggs are also an exception.)

That being said, I was very happy to be back to meat beginning at about 2:00 AM yesterday when we feasted following the Paschal Liturgy.

67 posted on 04/12/2004 11:39:54 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (XC is risen from the dead, trampling down death by death and upon those in the tombs bestowing life!)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
but - by definition - they can't even play Hide the Salami

Ok there went my keyboard!

68 posted on 04/12/2004 11:41:36 AM PDT by countrydummy (http://chat.agitator.dynip.com)
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To: countrydummy
Hope it was cheap :)
69 posted on 04/12/2004 11:43:40 AM PDT by cyborg (GO CONDI GO!)
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To: presidio9
Yeah, they've tried it before. This isn't the first and sadly enough, it probably won't be the last. I just wish they [PETA] had something better to do with their time.
70 posted on 04/12/2004 11:46:07 AM PDT by hawm4 (Andrew)
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To: cyborg
I've seen some vegan sites try to debunk that. They can't because it's in a lot of his writing AND testimony.

Yep. Seen these quotes?...

"One may regret living at a period when it's impossible to form an idea of the shape the world of the future will assume. But there's one thing I can predict to eaters of meat: the world of the future will be vegetarian."
- Adolf Hitler. November 11, 1941. Section 66, HITLER'S TABLE TALK

"If I offer a child the choice between a pear and a piece of meat, he'll quickly choose the pear. That's his atavistic instinct speaking."
- Adolf Hitler. December 28, 1941. Section 81, HITLER'S TABLE TALK

"The only thing of which I shall be incapable is to share the sheiks' mutton with them. I'm a vegetarian, and they must spare me from their meat."
- Adolf Hitler. January 12, 1942. Section 105, HITLER'S TABLE TALK

"At the time when I ate meat, I used to sweat a lot. I used to drink four pots of beer and six bottles of water during a meeting. … When I became a vegetarian, a mouthful of water was enough."
- Adolf Hitler. January 22, 1942. Section 117, HITLER'S TABLE TALK

"When you offer a child the choice of a piece of meat, an apple, or a cake, it's never the meat that he chooses. There's an ancestral instinct there."
- Adolf Hitler. January 22, 1942. Section 117, HITLER'S TABLE TALK

"One has only to keep one's eyes open to notice what an extraordinary antipathy young children have to meat."
- Adolf Hitler. April 25, 1942. Section 198, HITLER'S TABLE TALK

"When I later gave up eating meat, I immediately began to perspire much less, and within a fortnight to perspire hardly at all. My thirst, too, decreased considerably, and an occasional sip of water was all I required. Vegetarian diet, therefore, has some obvious advantages."
- Adolf Hitler. July 8, 1942. Section 256, HITLER'S TABLE TALK

"I am no admirer of the poacher, particularly as I am a vegetarian."
- Adolf Hitler. August 20, 1942. Section 293, HITLER'S TABLE TALK

Source: HITLER'S TABLE TALK: 1941-1944. Enigma Books. Available at Amazon and at Barnes And Noble.

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71 posted on 04/12/2004 11:47:26 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: cyborg
lol, did'nt really blow this one up, but I have 3 others for posts like that! :)
72 posted on 04/12/2004 11:51:44 AM PDT by countrydummy (http://chat.agitator.dynip.com)
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To: cyborg
I'm still lost here, but I'm not sure I want directions.
73 posted on 04/12/2004 11:52:00 AM PDT by presidio9 ("See, mother, I make all things new.")
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To: The Mayor
Sadly, peta.org used to be "People for the Eating of Tasty Animals" with lots of links to meat recipes, leather stuff, etc. That is until PETA used the system to pull a reverse domain name hijacking, taking the domain from its rightful owner.
74 posted on 04/12/2004 12:06:50 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Truthsayer20
OMG! That was the most disgusting web page I ever saw! *hurl*
75 posted on 04/12/2004 12:10:09 PM PDT by dangus
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To: cyborg
They are a fringe group who wonders why more people don't join them! LOL

750,000 members and growing. The lunatic extremists can always find more people to join them. They aren't hurting for members or money, unfortunately.

76 posted on 04/12/2004 12:12:45 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: cyborg
It must be working because I've seen some vegan sites try to debunk that.

Everybody who has something in common with Hitler tries to distance themselves from him. Look at the Christians.

That Hitler was a non-smoker, vegitarian, Christian, whatever is really of no importance in general. What is important is when he demonstrated the danger of using facist attitudes and techniques to push personal beliefs on others. Trying to make all Germans veggies wouldn't have stood a chance, but he still went after smoking and Jews.

In other words, a regular veggie or Christian shouldn't care that Hitler was one too. But those trying to force their beliefs on others should definitely look at Hitler, then take a long, hard look at themselves.

77 posted on 04/12/2004 12:22:50 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat; Admin Moderator
Everybody who has something in common with Hitler tries to distance themselves from him. Look at the Christians.

I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you are simply ignorant. The idea that Hitler was a Christian is a debunked theory used by people opposed to Christianity. Hitler was a Catholic as a child, but he came to despise all forms of Christianity. He killed more Christians than Jews.

78 posted on 04/12/2004 12:48:50 PM PDT by presidio9 ("See, mother, I make all things new.")
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To: antiRepublicrat
I don't entirely agree. Hitler's methods were flatly contrary to any Christian code. On the other hand, while his actions were plainly horrific to (presumably) most vegetarians, there is nothing inherent in vegetarianism to oppose Hitler's actions. Therefore, a Christian can flatly deny that Hitler was a Christian, while a vegetarians have to admit that Hitler was a vegetarian, albeit an atypical one.

Of course, the only reason this is significant is that many vegetarians promote the absurd notion that gentility is somehow a spontaneous effect of vegetarianism; they slander carnivory by asserting it makes people violent and aggressive. It is therefore useful to point out Hitler as a refutation of that assertion.

Famous Vegetarians:
Hitler
Gandhi
Mao
Adam

Famous Carnivores:
Jesus
Washington
Abraham
Clinton

Part of your point is correct: There are good and evil carnivores, and good and evil vegetarians.

Organized vegetarians do seem to have a nasty habbit of trying to impose vegetarianism on other people. It is a strongly-held morality to them, yet because this morality is not intrinsically linked to any natural check (i.e., Christian doctrine of free will) nor any inherent truth (i.e., no basic nature of mankind to avoid meats), it may prove to be prone to dangerous authoritarianism.
79 posted on 04/12/2004 12:49:51 PM PDT by dangus
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80 posted on 04/12/2004 1:05:43 PM PDT by Denver Ditdat
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