[Lael]

The City of New York fessed up the other day and said that if they take back the number of "discouraged seekers" to the 2001 the number of all unemployed is above 19.0.

Yeah, that is one AMAZING statistic...and prolly the only reason Kerry is being looked at seriously...people just don't THINK they can survive 4 more years of Utter CLUELESSNESS!!!

[CasearianDaoist]

Well it is so liberal here that I think that they would go Kerry anyway. On the other hand, if thing were not so bad, older Dem voters in the outer boroughs would think twice about voting Dem as there is a sense of the radical left taking over the party. Manhattan is almost a different city than the rest of NYC any more.

For a time I thought that the state might just be in play. I do not see that now.

A 57% employment rate tells you something. It is grim with only little signs of improvement. We really need good job numbers for several months be fore they get off the fence and start spending. NYC is all about that now as far as the big firms go.