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Who really discovered America? (Evidence that the Jews did!)
Far Shores - Ancient Mysteries ^ | FR Post - April 13 2004 | William F. Dankenbring

Posted on 04/13/2004 6:26:18 AM PDT by vannrox

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To: justshutupandtakeit
Ivory tower theorists have lots oftrouble with any idea that does not accept evolution and their self created ideas. Some folks have been working in the Picket Wire area and believe that petroglyphs there include proto-Hebrew alphabet images.

http://www.viewzone.com/VIEW.ZONE.html

Scroll down to the article Colorado petroglyphs explained which is on the right of the page and click to read.
The site has lots of ideas on the homepage to challenge new thinking.

Unrelated, some of my petroglyph photos from Lake County Oregon.

http://www.geocities.com/lobo59_1999/

http://www.powow.com/footloose/album/

http://www.oregonpetroglyphs.homestead.com/
41 posted on 04/13/2004 1:24:30 PM PDT by lobo59
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To: headsonpikes
Mel Brooks made a great Indian.....

Blazing Saddles had to be one of the irreverent movies made...incredibly funny....

If that movie was made today can you imagine the special interest group outcry.....

Haha...Jewish Indians....That's almost as funny as John F'en Kerry "discovering he's Jewish....

NeverGore :^)
42 posted on 04/13/2004 1:41:08 PM PDT by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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Oh great.
Now they will start opening casinos too.
43 posted on 04/13/2004 1:47:42 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: vannrox
Must have come on a cruise ship.
44 posted on 04/13/2004 1:53:54 PM PDT by wtc911 (Europe without God plus islam = Eurabia)
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To: nevergore
Haha...Jewish Indians....

Don Solomono, Jewish Indian Chief

FROM the earliest contact between North American Indians and white European settlers, the Europeans held the upper hand. Almost unremittingly, the Europeans imposed their idea of private ownership of land on the Native Americans, obtaining it from them by purchase, stealth and war. Virtually every Indian tribe in North America found its contacts with white settlers painful, if not fatal, and few Indians trusted or respected, much less loved, the white men and women they knew.

One exception to this generalization was Solomon Bibo, a white trader who won the trust and affection of the Acoma Pueblo Indians of New Mexico. In 1888, "Don Solomono," as he was known to the Acomas, became governor of the Acoma Pueblo, the equivalent of chief of the tribe. Remarkably, the Acomas asked the United States to recognize Bibo as their leader. Even more remarkable is that Bibo was a Jew.

Solomon Bibo was born in Prussia in 1853, the sixth of eleven children. In 1866, two of Solomon's brothers ventured to America and settled in New Mexico, which in 1848 had become part of the United States after being first a Spanish colony and then part of Mexico. Initially, the older Bibo brothers worked for the Spiegelberg family, pioneer Jewish merchants in New Mexico, but moved on to the tiny village of Ceboletta, where they set up a trading post to exchange goods with the Navajos. In 1869, at the age of sixteen, Solomon Bibo left Germany for America. After spending some months on the East coast learning English, he joined his brothers in Ceboletta.

All three Bibo brothers developed reputations for fairness in their dealings with the local Indian tribes, who used to bring the Bibos the farm produce they grew. In turn, the Bibo's, under contract to the U. S. government, supplied the army forts in the area with this produce. The Indians were paid a fair price by the Bibo's, which encouraged the Indians to improve their farming techniques. The Bibos also became deeply involved in mediating the many disputes over land ownership that arose between the Indians and the Mexican residents of the area, who for centuries had coveted the Indians' lands. They also tried to intercede with local white Americans (Anglos) who tried to purchase Indian lands at below market prices. The Bibos were considered pro-Indian and were not particularly embraced by either the Mexicans or their fellow Anglos.

None of the Bibos became more endeared to the Indians than Solomon was to the Acomas. In 1882, he arrived at the pueblo and set up a trading post. He learned Queresan, the Acoma language, and helped the tribe fight its legal battles to restore its traditional lands. By treaty in 1877, the Acomas had been granted 94,000 acres of land by the U.S. government, far less than the Indians thought they were entitled to according to historical evidence. The Acomas were determined that they should lose no more than had already slipped through their hands.

To accomplish this end, in 1884 the tribe decided to offer Bibo a 30 year lease to all their land, in exchange for which he would pay them $12,000, protect their cattle, keep squatters away and mine the coal under the Acoma lands, for which he would pay the tribe a royalty of ten cents per ton for each ton extracted. Pedro Sanchez, the U.S. Indian agent from Santa Fe, learned of the deal and, jealous of the success of the "rico Israelito" (rich Jew), tried to get the federal government to void the lease..

The Bibo family fought back. Simon Bibo petitioned the Board of Indian Commissioners in Washington to the effect that his brother Solomon's "intentions with the Indians are of the best nature and beneficial to them - because the men, women and children love him as they would a father and he is in the same manner attached to them." In 1888, convinced finally that Bibo had acted honorably, the Indian agent for New Mexico wrote, "To the people of the pueblo of Acoma, having confidence in the ability, integrity and fidelity of Solomon Bibo. . I hereby appoint [him] governor of said pueblo."

In 1885, Solomon married an Acoma woman, Juana Valle, granddaughter of his predecessor as governor of the Acoma Pueblo. Juana was originally a Catholic, but observed the Jewish faith and raised her children as Jews. In 1898, wanting their children to receive a Jewish education, Solomon and Juana relocated to San Francisco, where he invested in real estate and opened a fancy food shop. Their oldest son was bar mitzvah at San Francisco's Ohabei Shalome, and the younger attended religious school at Temple Emanuel. Solomon Bibo died in 1934, Juana in 1941. Solomon Bibo, governor of the Acomas, America's only known Jewish Indian chief, is buried with his Indian princess in the Jewish cemetery in Colma, California.


Portrait of Simon Bibo


Post-it note on the back of the SWJA's copy of this photograph reads: "From left to right: 1) Jose Miguel Chino 2) Pedro Sanchez (Indian agent) 3) Hashiti* Martin de Valle 4) Jose Berendo (principal) 5) Santiago Orilla 6) Santiago Conepo Linazeteah 7) Lorenzo Pancho 8) Lorenzo Lina 9) Larenzo Schaurva Kruz 10) Toribio Mateai 11) Jose Ant Aujune (Bibo) 12) Napoleon Pancho (Bibo) 13) Andres Ortiz (Interpreter) 14) Mr. Read, Secretary of Indian Agent 15) Solomon Bibo, Governor of Acoma" * Hashiti in Acoma language means "old man"

45 posted on 04/13/2004 1:59:05 PM PDT by SJackson (America...thru dissent and protest lost the ability to mobilize a will to win, Col Bui Tin, PAVN)
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To: vannrox
Amazing stuff, but perfectly reasonable.
46 posted on 04/13/2004 2:16:46 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Mercat
Joseph Smith claimed to have translated several ancient Egyptian documents using "prophecy stones" and later, when the items were definitively translated using the Rosetta stone, it turned out that Smith was not even close to being close.
47 posted on 04/13/2004 2:21:28 PM PDT by greenwolf
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To: SJackson; veronica; yonif
The tribe scores again!
48 posted on 04/13/2004 2:23:11 PM PDT by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: SJackson
BTTTT
49 posted on 04/13/2004 2:29:14 PM PDT by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: vannrox
I remember reading about Seventh Day Adventists who invented a Jewish history for themselves in New Mexico. I wonder if this is one of their artifacts.
50 posted on 04/13/2004 2:51:02 PM PDT by Varda (meat-eating vegetarian)
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To: SJackson
Thanks! Very Cool article.....

NeverGore :^)
51 posted on 04/13/2004 3:11:11 PM PDT by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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To: Cicero
I doubt whether present day Mormons would be foolish enough to involve their church in a hoax that could be exposed.

Or rather, yet another hoax that would be exposed.

The whole Book of Mormon is a hoax that's been exposed.

52 posted on 04/13/2004 3:36:35 PM PDT by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: vannrox
While the Jews were discovering this hemisphere why didn't they introduce the wheel? It would have made things a lot easier for those living in the Americas.
53 posted on 04/13/2004 4:35:08 PM PDT by curmudgeonII
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To: A.J.Armitage
Your #52: The whole Book of Mormon is a hoax that's been exposed.

Wrong again, AJ. You have my witness.

54 posted on 04/13/2004 4:39:10 PM PDT by White Mountain (By their fruits ye shall know them.)
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To: Mercat
Is this stuff from the Mormons? No disrespect intended but one of their basic tenents is that the Native Americans are the lost tribe of Israel.

The easily overlooked statement that he was writing an article for The Plain Truth gave me cold feet right off.  TPT is a Garner Ted Armstrong publication.  That, coupled with the author's excited acceptance of things that cannot be authenticated, counsels caution.
55 posted on 04/13/2004 6:11:51 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: White Mountain
Oh, some guy on the internet called "White Mountain" says so. I guess the lack of horses, swords, etc. doesn't matter.
56 posted on 04/13/2004 6:29:25 PM PDT by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: vannrox
Great article
57 posted on 04/13/2004 6:46:07 PM PDT by The Californian
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To: eddiespaghetti; vannrox
Linguistic studies prove that the Welsh language is very closely akin to ancient Hebrew!

Har HAr HAr HAR!!!
58 posted on 04/14/2004 4:36:22 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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