Canada 'sells US high-grade pot'

BBC ^ | Apr 15th 2004 | BBC

[robertpaulsen]

Based on gawd's remark in post #5, it would seem to me that even if pot were legal the potency would rise.

[Skooz]

If it were possible to overdose on pot or hash, I would have been a dead man before age 19. I'm not trying to be funny. It's the truth.

[cinFLA]

Let's have some intellectual honesty now. Can you HONESTLY say that having a beer today, is as exciting as sneaking a beer when you were underage?

I enjoy my legal beer more now than I did when I was a kid. Honestly.

[cinFLA]

There has never been a recorded death due to tobacco either, has there?

[Hodar]

There, you get the point. It's the whole "Forbidden Fruit" issue. When you are not supposed to have something, the desirability of that something increases.

This is one of the unintended consequences of the whole "Prohibition" approach. Whether the forbidden item is alcohol or narcotics, the result is public demand for this item. When the item is freely available, the "Forbidden Fruit" allure ceases to exist.

[BlueAngel]

Thanks for that info. All most hear is of the danger from the south of the US.

[robertpaulsen]

"These drugs would very likely never have been created, if not for the War on Drugs."

Whoa! So if we had no WOD, drugs are legal, we would have stuck with the good old standbys, marijuana, cocaine and heroin?

I submit we'd have 50 new recreational drugs.

[Hodar]

There has never been a recorded death due to tobacco either, has there?

No, but the symptoms of a nicotine overdose are dramatically more severe than marijuana

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[cinFLA]

Now go tell your wife that she doesn't excite you like your first gf did.

[cinFLA]

You are a laughingstock. There is no such thing as a marijuana overdose.

You have dishonestly implied that I said something that I did not say inorder to discredit me personally. Please stick to the facts and stay away from slander.

[jmc813]

WOD Ping

[TKDietz]

"High-grade marijuana is grown in nutrient-rich solutions rather than soil..., according to Mr Walters, who heads the Office of National Drug Control Policy."

Kinda like those hothouse tomatoes you buy at the store. I'm surprised he didn't say it's grown in "marijuana labs" like I've seen him quoted as saying before. It's funny to hear these people try to spin this into something worse than it is. They'll talk about the "chemicals" used to grow pot, which in reality are just nutrients, a mixture of fertilizer and trace minerals, just like your hydroponic tomatoes are grown with. By the way, it's my understanding that much of the high grade pot is grown in organic potting mixes. Not everyone uses hydroponics. Many claim the organic stuff tastes better. Hydroponics is used because it's easier to control nutrient levels and apparently helps in growing crops that finish faster and are more consistent in production levels. I don't think it necessarily makes the marijuana stronger.

[jmc813]

I remember one of my most exciting nights - the night I turned 21! You lose.

If I recall correctly, you are retired. What state were you living in that had a 21 year old drinking age forty years ago?

[eno_]

You have dishonestly implied that I said something that I did not say inorder to discredit me personally. Please stick to the facts and stay away from slander.

Oh boo hoo! Will you run and tell mommy?

You asked what my numbers are for marijuana ER cases. I want to know the FULL HORROR OF THE TERMINAL MUNCHIES!!! I mean, if our exalted Drug Czar calls it the "crack of marijuana" it must be truly awful.

Or maybe the number, as I pointed out, is zero. Goose egg. Nada. Zilch. Because you can't OD on marijuana.

Yes, you ARE a laughingstock.

But hey, keep trying. The slander thing is almost as funny as terminal munchies.

[cinFLA]

If I recall correctly, you are retired. What state were you living in that had a 21 year old drinking age forty years ago?

Take a guess!

[Hodar]

Whoa! So if we had no WOD, drugs are legal, we would have stuck with the good old standbys, marijuana, cocaine and heroin?

I think history would argue with you. Using Prohibition as my basis for my arugment, my first submission is thus:

Although consumption of alcohol fell at the beginning of Prohibition, it subsequently increased. Alcohol became more dangerous to consume; crime increased and became "organized"; the court and prison systems were stretched to the breaking point; and corruption of public officials was rampant. No measurable gains were made in productivity or reduced absenteeism. Prohibition removed a significant source of tax revenue and greatly increased government spending. It led many drinkers to switch to opium, marijuana, patent medicines, cocaine, and other dangerous substances that they would have been unlikely to encounter in the absence of Prohibition. Those results are documented from a variety of sources, most of which, ironically, are the work of supporters of Prohibition--most economists and social scientists supported it. Their findings make the case against Prohibition that much stronger.

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Secondly, Prohibition not only increased the public demand for the contraband, it caused the very people who were creating the contraband to 'improve' upon it. This goes back to my statements regarding the Risk:Profit ratio. The proliferation of home 'labs' for making various drugs is just an example. If drugs were freely available, the NEED to create more drugs simply goes away. Why invest in making Crack, when you can simpy make cocaine? Also, as one source of revenue becomes more fraught with peril, you create a new revenue stream. Esctasy is one of those results. Now that it has been introduced into society, it will be with us for as long as mankind exists. New and more powerful derivitives are on the way.

[cinFLA]

You asked what my numbers are for marijuana ER cases. I want to know the FULL HORROR OF THE TERMINAL MUNCHIES!!! I mean, if our exalted Drug Czar calls it the "crack of marijuana" it must be truly awful. Or maybe the number, as I pointed out, is zero. Goose egg. Nada. Zilch.

Even your pro-drug sites do not support your "zero" number.

[cinFLA]

Is that why coke came out with the lime-flavored drink?

[cinFLA]

If drugs were freely available, the NEED to create more drugs simply goes away.

Sort of like how the automakers stopped introducing new models in 1913.

[robertpaulsen]

During Prohibition, sellers focused on liquor. When Prohibition ended, beer and wine made a comeback.

That's my analogy.