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Emergency Marriage Alert (4/15/04)

Posted on 04/15/2004 10:30:13 PM PDT by Exton1

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To: OutInTheColdAgain
Good Lord what a F'ed up family you have. You belong in California.
21 posted on 04/16/2004 5:57:27 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: BriarBey
I have no problem being friends with gay people...I am..but they know where I stand, and that their bedroom life as a basis to achieve their political agendas is disgusting.

Amen. My wife's brother is gay. He's a great guy, but I can't stand that aspect of his life. Right this second, it's none of my business. But what happens when we have children? Am I going to want my kids to meet their uncle and uncle who are really friendly towards each other and happen to live together? Hell no. That's when it becomes a real problem.

There's a lot to being a kid, and dealing with sexual immorality from people who define themselves SOLELY on sex is NOT something my kids or anyone's kids should have to deal with.

I also get rather tired of being told that I'm "hateful" if I don't like what gay people do. There seems to be no comparative statement in the liberal playbook for "love the sinner, hate the sin." It's an all-or-nothing proposition. If you disagree with any aspect of anyone's life, then you must be a hateful Christian fundie. Well, get over yourselves, libs, I DON'T LIKE GAY BEHAVIOR.

22 posted on 04/16/2004 6:01:02 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Oh boy, I can't wait to eat that monkey!"--Abe Simpson)
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To: OutInTheColdAgain
>>I feel sorry for you, for the turmoil that is in your family.<<

I was suspicious of your first post. This tears it.
I will don my hip boots before I continue reading your agenda...
23 posted on 04/16/2004 6:08:19 AM PDT by ishabibble
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To: Exton1
dems in the back door bump
24 posted on 04/16/2004 6:18:42 AM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: runningbear; RGSpincich; pbear8; Diver Dave; Yaelle; Queen Jadis
Just thought I'd pass this on to you Californians.
25 posted on 04/16/2004 8:24:28 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: OutInTheColdAgain
Indeed we are all entitled to our opinion, yet the facts on homosexuality support one opinion and not the other.

Perhaps with some homosexuals, engaging in homosexuality is a choice they make to rebel as we see with freeper Chani.

The more science studies homosexuality, the more we see the major factor determining homosexuality is environment. That's not a bold statement, it's what science continues to report. We should heed the words of John Adams when he said:

"Facts are stubborn things, and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
As two of the three little pigs learned, we must build our house out of something solid. This was an important teaching of Jesus as well. He said it is foolish to build your house on sand, or to build your core position on something that is easily washed away. Instead, we should build our position on something solid, something which stands firm under scrutiny.

In regards to homosexuality and genetics, the work of homosexual activist Dr. Simon Levay has often been used to support the idea that homosexuality is genetic, and his work is still quoted to this day. But what did Levay really find? Here is what Levay said of his own work:

"It's important to stress what I didn't find. I did not prove that homosexuality is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay. I didn't show that gay men are born that way, the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work. Nor did I locate a gay center in the brain."
In 1973 the APA (American Psychiatric Association) declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder. According to Levay, it wasn't science that propelled the APAs change, he said "Gay activism was clearly the force that propelled the APA to declassify homosexuality."

Dr. Robert L. Spitzer played a pivotal role in the above 1973 decision made by the APA. Spitzer used to believe homosexuals couldn't change but after studying the results of therapy he now believes homosexuals can change:

"I thought that homosexual behavior could be resisted--but that no one could really change their sexual orientation. I now believe that's untrue--some people can and do change."

Spitzer concluded with:

"the mental health professionals should stop moving in the direction of banning therapy that has, as a goal, a change in sexual orientation. Many patients, provided with informed consent about the possibility that they will be disappointed if the therapy does not succeed, can make a rational choice to work toward developing their heterosexual potential and minimizing their unwanted homosexual attractions."
I hope that helps.
26 posted on 04/16/2004 8:50:51 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Future Snake Eater
I agree. Seems we are on a beaten path that no one can stop. We call normal abnormal and abnormal normal. Or is that "In the last days they will call bad, good and good, bad." Did you ever see such a screwed up world? Its not politically correct to have your own opionion where morality is concerned, you can be good to those you disagree with but freedom of speech and an opinion? No way. The corrupt can have theirs but the ones who have the good common sense morals that founded this great country to begin with had better shut up. Nothing makes sense anymore, and we look at our children and wonder what is happening to them. How do 7-8 yr. olds rape and beat a 5-6 yr. old. HOW could Columbine have happened? We haven't seen anything YET! sigh.
27 posted on 04/16/2004 11:15:39 AM PDT by BriarBey
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To: OutInTheColdAgain
I don't think gays "choose" that lifestyle. Why would they? I mean why would you choose something that is going to bring you hate and ridicule?


You couldn't be further from the truth. Should we allow a pedophile to do what they want? What about a crack user and a murder? Where do you draw the line? We all choose. Watch the self mutilation of our children with the body piercing and tattooing and from what I hear the new rage is amputation. Lots of heterosexual couples live a lifetime together without marriage.....this need for marriage by the gays is a way for them to get more entitlements, and the self absorbed attention they crave, other wise they would shut up and just live together.
28 posted on 04/16/2004 11:24:26 AM PDT by BriarBey
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To: Exton1
the full-blown homosexual "marriage" bill

Interesting choice of words.

29 posted on 04/16/2004 12:10:33 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: little jeremiah
Bump


What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda
( www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1076476/posts )


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)
( www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1026551/posts )


Culture of Vice
( www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/977884/posts )


TRUTH WITHOUT INTERRUPTION DAY-- APRIL 21, 2004
( www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1106288/posts )

30 posted on 04/16/2004 12:28:51 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: scripter; OutInTheColdAgain

In 1973 the APA (American Psychiatric Association) declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder. According to Levay, it wasn't science that propelled the APAs change, he said "Gay activism was clearly the force that propelled the APA to declassify homosexuality."


Homosexual Activism in the American Psychiatric Association and the Removal of Homosexuality from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM)

The Politically Correct American Psychological Association

An excerpt from "Psychology's sexual dis-orientation" by MIT Psychologist, Gerald E. Zuriff, Ph.D

31 posted on 04/16/2004 12:40:29 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: Professional Engineer
Ping

You knew it would get eventually rear its ugly head.
32 posted on 04/16/2004 1:36:32 PM PDT by msdrby (US Veterans: All give some, but some give all.)
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To: EdReform
Excellent. Thanks. I need to update my standard response #42 to include your links.

33 posted on 04/16/2004 1:41:54 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: OutInTheColdAgain
I'm glad you're able to put politics aside and love your daughter no matter what. I had to go through something similar with my best friend. In high school, I was a liberal but also, I'm ashamed to say, somewhat prejudiced against gays. Then my best friend came out as both gay and conservative. He didn't try to convert me to his lifestyle, but he did successfuly convert me to Limbaugh.
34 posted on 04/16/2004 4:29:21 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist
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To: Exton1
The fascist abominations are thwarting democracy.
Their "victim hood" propaganda disguises their judicial dictators who are ordering the free American people to obey them.

Protect American democracy. Vote "yes" on the marriage amendment. Send a message to the unelected dictators on the bench!

35 posted on 04/16/2004 5:14:16 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: OutInTheColdAgain
I guess what we (gays and families of gays) do is what blacks did prior to the civil rights movement.

Blacks are just like homosexuals? Say that to one next time you see him on the street and see if he agrees with you.

36 posted on 04/16/2004 5:17:47 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: OutInTheColdAgain
I am the mother of 2 gay children.

2 sexual dysfunctionals in one house? Even a herd of wild animals wouldn't put up with that type of behavior!You do have one seriously screwed up family there.
Did you know homosexuals were kept in insane asylums until 1973 because they were considered by the medical profession to be a danger to society? They were still considered sexually insane until 1980, but then the Marxist saw them as useful idiots for their cause. They let them out.
Today, we're stuck paying millions to clean up their vile diseases because of it.
You should be proud of yourself for the abominations you've created - NOT! (Shame on you! You're a dishonor to all mothers! Where were you when your children really needed you?)

37 posted on 04/16/2004 5:27:49 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: OutInTheColdAgain
Please read post #26. Especially since you have two children who are identifying as homosexuals, you owe it to yourself and to them to become informed about what the causes of homosexuality really are, as well as what the "gay" agenda is doing in this country. I've read your posts and you certainly have opinions, but those opinions are not based on the facts, the results of research, and the fact that there are thousands of ex-homosexuals.

There is no excuse for ignorance on FR. Check scripter's links, read up, and then join the debate. If you don't want to inform yourself, then you are "outing" yourself as a shill for the "gay" agenda.
38 posted on 04/16/2004 5:31:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: OutInTheColdAgain
Porn is different. People do that because they get paid.

Did you hear about the porn guy that got AIDs on vacation and spread his pleasure around the porn community?
He got it on vacation! If he does sex for a living, wouldn't a "vacation" be a break form his sex work? Huh?
If I were a lumber jack, I wouldn't still be cutting down trees on my vacation! Sheesh!

Anyway, I suppose "Thou shall not commit adultery" has taken on a whole new meaning to those who inherited the "gay and ever so happy homo plague", aye?

39 posted on 04/16/2004 5:36:03 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: little jeremiah
If you don't want to inform yourself, then you are "outing" yourself as a shill for the "gay" agenda.

I agree. I'd say the homosexual propaganda being thrown around on this thread is way too obvious. No sane mother would admit to screwing up her kids "with pride."

40 posted on 04/16/2004 5:43:38 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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