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To: Chani
Believe me I agree with you about the 10%, they embarrass me. I don't think gays "choose" that lifestyle. Why would they? I mean why would you choose something that is going to bring you hate and ridicule? To be honest with you I don't understand either how they get satisfaction with a same sex partner. I just know that they do. I am probably prejudiced because I do believe that my eggs and my husband's sperm make gay children, I know for a fact that they were raised in a good Christian family, church on Sunday's Lutheran school and all that. Just a regular upbringing with no big huge traumatic even that caused them to be gay so I don't think based on my experience that it is chosen. I do believe them when they say they were just born that way.

I do not think that they should have to pay a lawyer and draw up civil contracts to get "almost" the same rights that every heterosexual couple gets on their wedding day. As for it not being good for society (AIDS) my son will be going in the Peace Corps this summer to fight AIDS in Africa. It is a horrible thing that there is so many gays with AIDS and that they spread it by having a promiscuous lifestyle, however there is also a lot of heterosexual behaviors that are a cost to society, that are not good. Look at obesity in America, unhealthy lifestyles that is bad for society. I don't think ALL the values in the Bible are accepted in society today. The Bible has many passages relating to slavery, telling slaves to obey their masters etc. You reject that don't you? I do understand people who approach the topic based on their closely held religious beliefs. However I thought we were supposed to have a separation of church and state. Your religious beliefs are not my religious beliefs. Why should the right to my daughters marriage be denied based on your religious beliefs? I am probing here don't' read this as an "attack: type of reply. It is hard on the Internet because it is hard to relay the inflection of the words written. Well at least for me anyway.
12 posted on 04/16/2004 12:33:05 AM PDT by OutInTheColdAgain (God Bless our Troops.)
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To: OutInTheColdAgain
"I don't think gays "choose" that lifestyle. Why would they?"

I can tell you that they do.....I was one. It's a form of 'rebellion'.....or actually, it became and probably is more so after 30 years of 'brainwashing' a 'cool thing to be'. Like I said, if you make stealing or murder 'acceptable', more are likely to do it. If you make something harder to be......then there will be fewer that do it. I see you have been fed the mantra, and were/are looking for reasons/rationalizations/absolutions. That's ok. I don't blame you. I just am sorry you've become an 'enabler'. Sigh.
13 posted on 04/16/2004 12:45:18 AM PDT by Chani (I wanted to create a great tagline.......but thinking wears me out.)
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To: OutInTheColdAgain
I mean why would you choose something that is going to bring you hate and ridicule?

I choose to be a conservative yet I feel I must shelter my politics for fear of the outburts of hate and ridicule that leftists I know would rain down on me. I hear how they talk of ex-friends and accomplished musicians who make the "mistake" of being conservative (and by musicians, I mean Jimmy Vaughan types more than Ted Nuggents).

Do you think that every woman who appears in lesbian porn is a lesbian by birth? Do you also believe that every heterosexual woman in porn actually finds any attraction to some of the men that she is paid to have sex with? It's a job. Some people do "choose" to participate in these acts.

15 posted on 04/16/2004 1:03:48 AM PDT by weegee (Maybe Urban Outfitters should sell t-shirts that say "Voting Democrat is for Old Dead People.")
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To: OutInTheColdAgain
I don't think gays "choose" that lifestyle. Why would they? I mean why would you choose something that is going to bring you hate and ridicule?


You couldn't be further from the truth. Should we allow a pedophile to do what they want? What about a crack user and a murder? Where do you draw the line? We all choose. Watch the self mutilation of our children with the body piercing and tattooing and from what I hear the new rage is amputation. Lots of heterosexual couples live a lifetime together without marriage.....this need for marriage by the gays is a way for them to get more entitlements, and the self absorbed attention they crave, other wise they would shut up and just live together.
28 posted on 04/16/2004 11:24:26 AM PDT by BriarBey
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