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FReeper Research: GORELICK WORKED WITH RICHARD CLARKE! (HHS website transcript)
US Dept of Health & Human Services website ^ | 1/22/1999 | adam_az

Posted on 04/16/2004 7:17:42 AM PDT by adam_az

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To: kcvl; mabelkitty
Re #62: Maybe someone has pointed this out before and I've missed it, but here's something I notice there. What you post there indicates Gorelick was involved in the counterterrorist planning for the 1996 Olympics, as indeed one would expect given her position at the time. This reminded me of a thread the other day mentioning that the counterterrorist planning for the 1996 Olympics included scenarios involving planes being used as weapons. In trying to retrieve the thread from my archives, I found this:

911 Commission Testimony Transcript-Remarks of NORAD Personnel: Maj. Gen. Craig McKinley, Maj. Gen. Larry Arnold, Col. Alan Scott 5/23/03 (posted 5/30/03)

Richard Ben-Veniste, Commissioner [to Maj. Gen. Craig McKinley]

Well, let's start for example with September 12th, 1994. A Cessna 150L crashed into the south lawn of the White House barely missing the building and killing the pilot. Similarly, in December of 1994, an Algerian armed Islamic group in Paris hijacked an Air France flight in Algiers and threatened to crash it into the Eiffel Tower. In October of 1996, the Intelligence community obtained information regarding an Iranian plot to hijack a Japanese plane over Israel and crash it into Tel Aviv. In August of 1998, the Intelligence community obtained information that a group of unidentified Arabs planned to fly an explosive-laden plane from a foreign country into the World Trade Center. The information was passed on to the FBI and the FAA. In September of 1998, the Intelligence community obtained information that Osama bin Laden's next operation could possibly involve flying an aircraft loaded with explosives into a U.S. airport and detonating it. In August 2001, the Intelligence Community obtained information regarding a plot to either bomb the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi from an airplane or crash an airplane into it. In addition, in the Atlanta Olympics, the United States government and the Dept. of Justice and my colleague Jamie Gorelick were involved in planning against possible terrorist attacks at the Olympics, which included the potential of an aircraft flying into the stadium. In July 2001, the G8 Summit in Genoa, attended by our President - among the measures that were taken, were positioning surface-to-air missiles, ringing Genoa, closing the Genoa airport and restricting all airspace over Genoa. Was not this information, Sir, available to NORAD as of September 11th, 2001?

So prior to 9/11, Gorelick was conscious of the potential of planes being used as weapons; and moreover, as Ben-Veniste's own words above indicate, Ben-Veniste was aware last May that Gorelick knew of this. Has this been pointed out already and I just missed it?--I'm having trouble keeping up with all the new developments in "GorelickGate", there are so many, LOL!

81 posted on 04/16/2004 1:03:19 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: kcvl
Are we feeling insecure yet? Many people are. In July of last year, John Deutch, then head of the CIA, told Congress that he ranked information warfare as the second most serious threat to US national security--just below weapons of mass destruction in terrorist hands. That same day, Deputy US Attorney General Jamie Gorelick said she ranked it number one--and called for the equivalent of a Manhattan Project to restore our erstwhile security. That same month, a presidential commission was established to determine the nation's true vulnerability.

Don't know if you were on the thread (Lawmakers Say Misstatements Cloud F.B.I. Chief's Credibility, Post #60), but the other day I noted this from an old thread:

Conspiracy To Commit Treason

John Deutch was an undesecretary in President Carter's Energy Department and a member of the Nuclear Safety Oversight Committee from 1979-1980. During his time there, Jamie Gorelick acted as his legal counsel. Deutch was named to President George Bush's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board in the early 1990s. He became President Clinton's Director of Central Intelligence in early 1995. While there, he named President Bush's best friend and former National Security Advisor Brent Scowcroft to a new CIA leadership group. He also named President Bush's Ambassador to China, James Lilley, to the leadership group. Scowcroft was President Ford's Deputy National Security Advisor. President Bush was President Ford's Ambassador to China and Director of Central Intelligence (he replaced William Colby as CIA head). Jamie Gorelick became President Clinton's Deputy Attorney General and legal counsel to the Defense Department from 1993-1997. Allegedly, neither Deutch, Scowcroft, Lilley nor Gorelick informed President Clinton of China's theft of all of America's nuclear weapons designs -- ever.

82 posted on 04/16/2004 1:11:14 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: kcvl

"Isn't just the assembly and conduct of this committee
enough insight as to how we became vulnerable to the alQeada attack?"

04/16/2004 11:18:57 AM EDT by Baynative

" And then some."

83 posted on 04/16/2004 1:12:14 PM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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84 posted on 04/16/2004 1:13:22 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: mabelkitty
I hope you are keeping track of all the new information bubbling up....

I'm trying, but it's bubbling faster than I can cut and paste, let alone read, LOL! Thanks much for the ping! I've added a couple of comments a few posts above this one if you scroll up.

85 posted on 04/16/2004 1:14:07 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora
I'm getting sick trying to keep up with all of this incest!!!
86 posted on 04/16/2004 1:22:46 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: mass55th
This Commission has been discredited so many times already, that any report they may generate won't be worth the paper it's printed on.

And here's more. I found a thread from May 18 2002 based on a NY Times article---the "Bush Knew" line that was engendered by the leaking of the existence of the August 2001 PDB.

Look who is quoted:

What Bush Knew May Play in November Election


"I think this is a serious matter," said Lee H. Hamilton, a former Democratic foreign policy stalwart in the House of Representatives, who is now director of the nonpartisan Woodrow Wilson Center.

"You are sitting there as president getting information from the C.I.A. that there are members of Al Qaeda discussing hijacking of American airliners," Mr. Hamilton said, "and you've got information in the F.B.I. about the need to look for Middle Eastern men training at U.S. flight schools. That is a serious matter and I don't care what other information is coming across your desk, that calls for action."

87 posted on 04/16/2004 1:25:14 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: kcvl
I'm not getting tinfoil jokes anymore :(
88 posted on 04/16/2004 1:25:32 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: adam_az; MeekOneGOP; devolve

"FReeper Research: GORELICK WORKED WITH RICHARD CLARKE! (HHS website transcript)"

Wonder if there are there were any late night calls between Gorelick and Clark before he went public with his new book?

89 posted on 04/16/2004 1:27:53 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: kcvl
I'm getting sick trying to keep up with all of this incest!!!

Tell me about it!--it's making my head spin! Hmmm--maybe a timeline visual aid or something would help--kinda like what you posted before but in graphic form--so Gorelick's actions could be set against the context of what else was going on at the time.

Looking through her bio and comparing it with other espionage cases, my guess is she got "recruited" while at Harvard Law School and someone there got her placed in Carter's Department of Energy, where she was when she became Deutch's legal counsel. I think maybe some digging into Carter's Department of Energy and any personnel overlaps with the Clinton administration might shed some light. If I may think out loud a bit: About the time Gorelick came into Carter's DoE, Carter replaced Sec. Energy James Schlesinger with one Charles Duncan, Jr. This change at DoE was probably not coincidentally about the time of the Iran Hostage Crisis when there was a big policy conflict between Carter advisors who supported the Shah, led by Zbigniew Brzezinski, and policy advisors who opposed the Shah and supported normalizing relations with the Ayatollah's new regime, led by Cyrus Vance. Vance's deputy at that time was Warren Christopher, Clinton's future Secretary of State; Carter's ambassador to Iran William Sullivan was also among the pro-Ayatollah faction; and meanwhile while this is going on at State, Gorelick joins DoE in 1979 as Assistant to the Secretary and counselor to the Deputy Secretary of Energy--hmmm. . .I'm not sure what it is yet, but there's gotta be something to that. . .

90 posted on 04/16/2004 2:01:18 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: lucyblue
Here's another article for your file....
91 posted on 04/16/2004 2:08:49 PM PDT by Purdue Pete
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To: kcvl
It became more interesting after I noticed the date. I hadn't seen this before. thx
92 posted on 04/16/2004 6:36:04 PM PDT by zip (Monthly donations are the easiest way to say Thanks for FR)
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To: adam_az; Liz; Howlin; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog
In 1995, our Attorney General asked me to chair a critical infrastructure working group that brought together Justice and Defense and the intelligence community to begin to address what we saw as a new and emerging threat.

From Wednesday, April 14, 2004

GORELICK: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I've asked for the microphone only to say that I will not be questioning Director Freeh or Attorney General Reno. Under our commission policies, several commissioners have recused themselves from considering various issues that they worked on or elements of the government that they've worked with at one time or another.

While I'm recused only from review of actions during my tenure at the Department of Justice, which ended in March of 1997, because I worked closely with Director Freeh and with Attorney General Reno, I've decided not to participate in this questioning at all.

As my colleagues know, the vast preponderance of our work, including with regard to the Department of Justice, focuses on the period of 1998 forward, and I have been and will continue to be a full participant in that work.

So all I will say today is thank you for your testimony today, Director Freeh.

93 posted on 04/16/2004 6:46:28 PM PDT by Libloather (Hillary, I want my FBI file back...)
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To: spycatcher; ALOHA RONNIE
"By the Mid-1990's I knew the CLINTON White House was never going to do anything about the Terrorist activities of Muslim Extremists" = ...MONSOOR IJAZ

Although Davis does not document Gorelick's role in Oklahoma City, media accounts routinely describe her as the director of the Oklahoma City task force, the so-called "field commander." As Davis has told me, someone in Washington called the FBI in Oklahoma City and issued a two-word directive on its investigation into Islamic terrorism: "Kill it."

94 posted on 04/16/2004 7:00:18 PM PDT by Libloather (Hillary, I want my FBI file back...)
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To: Diogenesis
Thank you for the fantastic links. The pieces of the puzzle are slowly, meticulously falling into place. Of course I feel like my brain is going to meltdown I'm so horrified! I just hope I live long enough to see justice for the prior administration!
95 posted on 04/16/2004 8:32:41 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Thomas Kean says I am the most non-partisan, bi-partisan member of the 911 Commission. Well, ain't I SPECIAL !?

96 posted on 04/17/2004 4:21:16 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
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To: adam_az; All
Does anyone know who Richard Clarke's wife is? A name? Is he even married? Thanks.
97 posted on 04/17/2004 3:47:31 PM PDT by hoyaloya
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To: Libloather; spycatcher
One has to infer, only reasonably, that the EO directive Clinton signed shortly after the TWA800 demise (Kallstrom: "We all thought it was terrorism," 9/11/01, ABC news coverage), which put severe penalties on any military or other governmental personnel who might share any information about that incident with outsiders, was approved and perhaps initiated if not mandated, by Ms. Gorelick.

I'll bet they can find precursors dating back to the Carter administration which might also and nonetheless be blamed on Reagan.

All to stanch the truth, eh, Jamie?

I wonder if NSA was deemed necessary for tracking down truthsayers, and/or whether anyone was made to endure penalties as a result. Did the Sanderses get caught that way, one has to wonder?


98 posted on 04/25/2004 12:21:59 PM PDT by holden
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