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Quotes by Hamas Leader Abdel Aziz Rantisi
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| Sat Apr 17, 4:02 PM ET
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Posted on 04/17/2004 11:58:58 PM PDT by dila813
Quotes by Hamas Leader Abdel Aziz Rantisi Sat Apr 17, 4:02 PM ET
By The Associated Press
Recent quotes from Hamas leader Abdel Aziz Rantisi, who was assassinated Saturday by Israel.
AFP Slideshow: Mideast Conflict
"We knew that Bush is the enemy of God, the enemy of Islam and Muslims. America declared war against God. Sharon declared war against God and God declared war against America, Bush and Sharon. ... The war of God continues against them, and I can see the victory coming up from the land of Palestine by the hand of Hamas." Last month, after the United States vetoed an United Nations (news - web sites) Security Council resoultion condemning Israel for assassinating Hamas founder Sheik Ahmed Yassin.
"We will be unified in the trenches of resistance. We will not surrender, we will never surrender to Israeli terror." Last month, after being selected Hamas leader in Gaza after Yassin was killed.
"Yassin is a man in a nation, and a nation in a man. And the retaliation of this nation will be of the size of this man. ... You will see deeds not words." Last month, after Yassin's assassination.
"We will all die one day. Nothing will change. If by Apache or by cardiac arrest, I prefer Apache." Last month, after Yassin's assassination
_ "This operation, whoever is behind it, is a natural reaction for the bloody aggression against our people." Last September, after deadly suicide bombings at a bus stop crowded with Israeli soldiers near Rishon Letzion and five hours later at a Jerusalem nightspot.
"They think that targeting leaders will stop Jihad (holy war). They are mistaken. ... All of us in Hamas from top to bottom are looking to become like Abu Shanab." Last August, after Israel killed Yassin aide Ismail Abu Shanab.
"The word cease-fire is not in our dictionary. ... Resistance will continue until we uproot them from our homeland." Last June, as Egypt tried to work out a truce.
"The Zionists will pay an expensive price for all of their crimes." Last June, from his hospital bed after a deadly bus bombing in Jerusalem that followed Israel's attempt to kill him.
TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abdel; hamas; madpoet; muslims; quotes; rantisi
Anyone who thinks this guy wasn't going to kill Americans is a nut job
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posted on
04/17/2004 11:58:59 PM PDT
by
dila813
To: dila813
But MY favorite is his "last" quote:
"What in Allah's name it THAT!!!!!"
Awww the poor terrorist - he fall down and go BOOM!
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posted on
04/18/2004 12:05:40 AM PDT
by
clee1
(Where's the beef???)
To: clee1
MY favorite is his "last" quote:
"What in Allah's name it THAT!!!!!"
LOL... too perfect. There IS justice in this world.
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posted on
04/18/2004 12:08:04 AM PDT
by
Betaille
("Show them no mercy, for none shall be shown to you")
To: dila813
"We will all die one day. Nothing will change. If by Apache or by cardiac arrest, I prefer Apache."He got his wish, any other takers?
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posted on
04/18/2004 12:11:32 AM PDT
by
endthematrix
(To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
To: dila813
More enemy propaganda spread by the Associated Press.
Can you imagine a US press agency publishing--without condemnation--quotes of Hitler during WWII?
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posted on
04/18/2004 12:15:17 AM PDT
by
SpyGuy
To: SpyGuy
It's not as if these quotes made him look good.
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posted on
04/18/2004 12:29:42 AM PDT
by
The KG9 Kid
(Semper Fi)
To: The KG9 Kid
They don't, but they also serve to make nellies more nervous, especially out of the context that Hamas has been snorting death threats at Israel for years and this is nothing new.
To: dila813
If by Apache or by cardiac arrest, I prefer Apache." Last month, after Yassin's assassinationGood call. Was he in the over-under pool here on FR? .... Yes, I know we had a thread with guesses about the date, what I want to know is if he participated (in guessing... he obviously participated in the action). And is there a special mention if a target correctly picks the mode of elimination?
/john
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posted on
04/18/2004 1:00:03 AM PDT
by
JRandomFreeper
(Soy el jefe de la cocina. No discuta con mí.)
To: dila813
"We knew that Bush is the enemy of God, the enemy of Islam and Muslims. America declared war against God. Sharon declared war against God and God declared war against America, Bush and Sharon. ... The war of God continues against them, and I can see the victory coming up from the land of Palestine by the hand of Hamas." A man who praises bus bombings that blow-up women and children, lectures us on God.
He will be missed.
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posted on
04/18/2004 2:22:44 AM PDT
by
Jorge
To: dila813
"They think that targeting leaders will stop Jihad (holy war). They are mistaken. ... All of us in Hamas from top to bottom are looking to become like Abu Shanab." ? Last August, after Israel killed Yassin aide Ismail Abu Shanab.
Ask and ye shall recieve. Everyone else: take a number your turn will come up soon.
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posted on
04/18/2004 2:43:25 AM PDT
by
Sapper26
To: dila813
"We knew that Bush is the enemy of God, the enemy of Islam and Muslims. America declared war against God. Sharon declared war against God and God declared war against America, Bush and Sharon. ... The war of God continues against them,,,"
Mighty weak god that the muslims follow, huh? They better give up on him.
I bet he doesn't even follow through with that promise of 72 virgins to XXXX.
To: dila813
You forgot to add "OWWWW!!!"
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posted on
04/18/2004 4:43:43 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
To: dila813; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; Salem; Prime Choice; counterpunch; Vets_Husband_and_Wife; ..
Who is (was) Abdel Aziz Rantisi - and why is (was) he saying all those crazy thing?
Ping.
"They think that targeting leaders will stop Jihad (holy war). They are mistaken. ... All of us in Hamas from top to bottom are looking to become like Abu Shanab." Last August, after Israel killed Yassin aide Ismail Abu Shanab.
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posted on
04/18/2004 4:49:10 AM PDT
by
Happy2BMe
(U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
To: dila813; Diogenesis; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP

Hamas leader Abdel Aziz al-Rantissi listens to his bodyguard Akram Nassar (L) in this file photo taken March 24, 2004. Abdel Aziz al-Rantissi was killed in an Israeli airstrike in Gaza on April 18, 2004 drawing a threat of 100 revenge attacks from the militant Palestinian group rocked by another major blow before a planned U.S.-backed pullout from Gaza.

Palestinians carry the body of the late Hamas leader Abdel Aziz Rantisi, bottom left, through the streets during his funeral in Gaza City, early Sunday, April 18, 2004. Rantisi and two bodyguards were killed in an Israeli missle attack on the car they were driving in Saturday in Gaza City. Iraqi flag is seen at center amidst a sea of green Hamas flags.

Palestinian militants from Hamas chant slogans against the U.S. and Israel during a demonstration at the Ain al-Hilweh refugee camp in south Lebanon April 18, 2004. Thousands of Palestinian in refugees camp in Lebanon protest on Sunday over the killing of Rantissi by Israel.


Students from al-Azhar university in Cairo hold their hands out to symbolize the swords of Islam during a demonstration to protest the assassination of Hamas leader Abdel-Aziz al-Rantissi April 18, 2004. Rantissi was killed less than a month after Israel assassinated Hamas founder Sheik Ahmed Yassin.

Egyptian students of Al- Azhar university, the highest Islamic Sunni institution, burn American, British and Israeli flags as they flash the Quran demonstrating against Israel's assassination of Abdel Aziz Rantisi, the Hamas leader, Sunday, April 18, 2004 in Cairo. Rantisi and two bodyguards were killed in an Israeli missile attack on the car they were driving in Saturday in Gaza City. Arabic slogans on the black lables reads as 'steadfastness'.

An elderly Palestinian supporter of the Islamic militant group Hamas holds a pistol and a copy of the Quran, the Islamic holy book, during a march against the killing by Israel of Hamas leader Abdel Aziz Rantisi in the West Bank City of Nablus Sunday April 18, 2004. Israel assassinated Rantisi in a missile strike on his car on Saturday, part of its declared campaign to wipe out the Islamic militant group's leadership ahead of a planned Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip.

Women Hamas supporters hold pictures of assassinated Hamas leader Abdel-Aziz al-Rantissi as they attend a demonstration supporting Hamas in the West Bank city of Nablus April 18, 2004.

Tens of thousands of mourners packed the streets of Gaza City during the funeral of Hamas leader Abdel Aziz al-Rantissi April 18, 2004.The Hamas military wing pledged '100 retaliations' for Rantissi, a 56-year-old firebrand who was the second Hamas leader Israel killed in Gaza in less than a month. Sheikh Ahmed Yassin died in a missile attack on March 22.

The body of the late Hamas leader Abdel Aziz Rantisi is carried from his house before being taken through the streets during his funeral in Gaza City, early Sunday, April 18, 2004. Rantisi and two bodyguards were killed in an Israeli missile attack on the car they were driving in Saturday in Gaza City.

People watch as the body of the late Hamas leader Abdel Aziz Rantisi is carried through the streets during his funeral in Gaza City, early Sunday, April 18, 2004. Rantisi and two bodyguards were killed in an Israeli missile attack on the car they were driving in Saturday in Gaza City.

Palestinians reach to touch the body of the late Hamas leader Abdel Aziz Rantisi as he is carried through the streets during his funeral in Gaza City, early Sunday, April 18, 2004. Rantisi and two bodyguards were killed in an Israeli missile attack on the car they were driving in Saturday in Gaza City.

A Palestinian kisses the face of Abdelaziz Rantissi in the morgue of al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City.

Palestinian relatives of Hamas leader Dr. Abdel Aziz Rantisi gather around his body in the morgue at Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, early Sunday, April 18, 2004. Rantisi and two bodyguards were killed in an Israeli missile attack on the car they were driving in Saturday in Gaza City.
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posted on
04/18/2004 5:08:18 AM PDT
by
Happy2BMe
(U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
To: dila813
Actually it's good that these quotes are stated! It shows him for what he was. A terrorist, a man that lived by the sword, embraced violence and hid behind decency and the self restraint or outside restraint put on Israel not to hunt down men like him that blow up busses and hind in the civilian masses of his kind.
Scum like him claims the colateral damage of operations conducted to get him (because the Palestinians who want a nation are INCAPABLE of being a nation and dealing with men like him) a victory for himself when they (the Israelis) go after him and inocent are hurt or killed.
If the Palestinians wanted a country. If they really wanted to be that which they claim, they should ACT as a nation and arrest, sentence these type of people themselves. If not, they should hand them over. Morning his death and vowing revenge for a terroist shows what the Palestinians are; a gang, a crowd of violent unorganized disenfranchized people that are manipulated by organizations like Hamas that is backed by Iran. They are not CAPABLE of self governance. As long as this is the case the Israelis need to do what they did. Go in and take people like this out.
But after I watched CNN I just about had to puke. As usual. They devoted 30minutes to pictures of mad Palestinians. Quotes from one side and how bad the Israelis are. Frankly- The Israelis have shown MORE self restraint than most. They are dealing with terror as ALL do. But after CNN was done, it was an act of dispicable horror! Terrible! Words like Soverign, Opression, Occupation........ were used. Emotion words intended to arouse a feeling. Thank God there is FOX! I just can't stand this senationalistic BS full of buzzwords spoken by a talking head that is all packaged as "Objective news". The media agency which became big in 91 by selling the Persian Gulf war is now poking fun at FOX, calling them ambulance chacers. Isn't that funny?
Red6
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posted on
04/18/2004 5:18:07 AM PDT
by
Red6
To: Happy2BMe
"They think that targeting leaders will stop Jihad (holy war). They are mistaken. ... All of us in Hamas from top to bottom are looking to become like Abu Shanab." Last August, after Israel killed Yassin aide Ismail Abu Shanab. I don't have any problem with that.
George Patton said it best !
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posted on
04/18/2004 7:02:34 AM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
To: Happy2BMe
I was glad to get the news that Rantissi was sent to his 72 Virginians. I am wondering who will move UP in Hamas ranks now to take his place ? We need to make up some 'Dead Man Walking' signs and BIG RED BULLSEYES for him to wear on his back ! Yassin, Rantissi .... NEXT ???
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posted on
04/18/2004 7:11:09 AM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
To: RonHolzwarth
I read what you wrote about Muslims having a weak God, and I suggest you don't talk about someone's religion or God if you don't know anything about it, because what you said there was VERY disrespectful. Say your opinion okay but don't belittle someone's God. And by the way, its all going to happen and you'll regret what you said. And don't get smart
To: muslim_4ever
Psalms Chapter 40:
[4] Blessed is the man who makes the LORD his trust, who does not turn to the proud, to those who go astray after false gods!
NOTE: The Bible is NOT talking about Allah when LORD is mentioned.
Isaiah Chapter 17:
[1] An oracle concerning Damascus. Behold, Damascus will cease to be a city, and will become a heap of ruins.
[2] Her cities will be deserted for ever; they will be for flocks, which will lie down, and none will make them afraid.
[3] The fortress will disappear from E'phraim, and the kingdom from Damascus; and the remnant of Syria will be like the glory of the children of Israel, says the LORD of hosts.
Allah will NOT be able to save Damascus.
To: muslim_4ever
Tell me about the six year old child bride,,, did she scream when your Prophet uhhhhh "deflowered her" at the age of nine?
How come it was OK for him, and it's not OK for Michael Jackson?
To: muslim_4ever
Explain to me why Muslims hate Jew so much.
And then try to explain to me in a reasoned fashion why Jews don't hate them back.
Have you ever wondered about that?
Why is it OK for Muslims to live in Israel, but it is NOT OK for Jews to live in any Arab country?
Ever wondered about that?
Do you ever wonder why Muslims celebrate when innocent people are maimed and killed?
Jews and Christians are HORRIFIED at the peculiar tendency of Muslims to celebrate death.
And what is this "it" you are talking about?
To: muslim_4ever
I would not think of Muslims as being so evil if the Mormon's and Jehovah's Witnesses were out shooting people and bombing innocent people in busses.
Only Muslims do that.
Why?
And don't give me any cr*p about losing their "lands", my family has had to leave two different countries, for reasons beyond our control. We just started over again, somewhere else. Why can't Muslims do that?
Why are Muslims still bombing Spain, carrying on a war that everyone else thought was over in 1492? We civilized people simply don't understand that at all.
Why don't you enlighten us?
To: muslim_4ever
This says all I need to know about "Allah" and his followers:
Matthew Chapter 7:
[15] "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
[16] You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles?
[17] So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit.
[18] A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.
[19] Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
[20] Thus you will know them by their fruits.
May 3, 2004 -- JERUSALEM - Palestinian fiends mercilessly gunned down a pregnant Jewish settler and her four terrified little girls in their station wagon yesterday as the family headed to protest Israel's planned Gaza Strip pullout.
After riddling the car with gunfire on a road leading to Israel, the two terrorists then ran up to the vehicle and coldbloodedly pumped bullets into each of their victims' heads to make sure they had finished the job, Israeli police said.
One of the gunmen also shot the swollen belly of the eight-months-pregnant mom at point-blank range.
"At first, we thought we could do something to save the mother, but it was too late," one distraught Israeli settler said.
"The children were already dead, with bullets in the head. Little children. I don't know, I really don't know," the man said.
To: RonHolzwarth
Everyday since 1948 untill today; Jeruselim: Mothers see thier children being slautered, men watch thier mothers, sisters, and daughters being raped without being able to do anything about it, innocent children out to play soccer never return home. Why? Shot by at least 5 bullets by Isreali soldiers. One particular story I would like to say: 3 Isreali soldiers pin down a Palastenian civilian to the floor suspecting he has bombs attached to him. While one soldier strip searches him, another questions another Palastenian civilian on the scene. After being sure he is TOTALLY unarmed, what does a country who claims to be demotratic such as Isreal do? Let him go? Take him to prison? No, murder him in cold blood.
Even though other religions have wrongedf Islam so badly I yet don't think of them as "evil". Even though alot of innocent Muslims have been killed for simply the fact that they are Muslims, I still say there are two kinds of people in this world and I shouldn't generlize. Don't give me that BS. about them only being fair about doing that. Muslims only try to get the right of being treated equally.
When you seriously want enlightenment, you let me know because I'm not about to deal with this when you are trying to get smart with me.
Lots of Muslims say they hate Isreal but say they hate Jews. I'm a Muslim and I have more than 12 Jew friends, but no matter what you say please don't try to tell me that Jews don't hate Muslims please, just save it.
It is okay for both Muslims and Isrealis to live in Isreal because it is considered a Holy land for all THREE religions. And for the last time don't say stuff you know nothing about because there are tons of Jews living in Saudi Arabia, my country, an ARAB country.
So if you are trying to make a point you're wasting your time because what you're saying is all wrong.
Don't tell me about Jews and Christians being "horrified" because Jews and Christians have done worse and you know it, the whole world knows it.
The it I'm talking about is Islam's glory being returned to it as Allah promised in the Holy Qura'an but when that day comes the whole world wil know that Judgment Day is coming as well.
The most thing I hate about people like you is that you come and think you can make fun of someone's religion like that. When I read what you wrote about our prophet I couldn't even sit down I was too angry to sit down at one place! Don't ever dare to say something bad or make fun of my prophet and just so you know he married her at age 9 and only "deflowered" her at age 14 with her will. Our prophet loved Lady Aisha so much, he was the model of a perfect man in both manners and intellegence. How dare you come up and compare our prophet with a WORTHLESS FREACKIN' SINGER?!
At least I still have my manners of not insulting your religion whatever it may be because all three religions came from God and all are Holy, yet only one is right.
Its all in the hands of Allah and all in a matter of time.
To: muslim_4ever
I've known quite a few muslims personally.
Every singe one of them that I knew PERSONALLY seemed a fine person, although we never did discuss religion much.
To: RonHolzwarth
And yet you still believe what you see and hear on TV or read in Newspapers when all of that is just media talk. And yet you have the face to come and belittle their religion. I've known quite a few Jews and Christians in my life since I've lived in the United States and all and I never even came and told them their religion is wrong but you come up and make fun of my religion like that, that's not respectful at all. I hope we end this on a good page in the end.
To: All
When I see those celebratory funerals for terrorists, all I can think of is Cluster bomb.
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posted on
05/16/2004 5:03:59 AM PDT
by
rbmillerjr
("When you meet the unbelievers, strike off their heads” Surat Mohammed:4)
To: RonHolzwarth
If you want me to fill you in about the basics of Islam, then I really don't mind doing so because it's something I take pride in. Moreover, I find that if you truley know my religion you'll find it shocking for ANYONE to criticize it.
If anyone else would like some knowledge about Islam, post me a reply.
To: dila813
This guy had a lot of bullshit.He'll show them allright.
I call it eliminated.
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posted on
05/16/2004 5:12:10 AM PDT
by
Unicorn
(Two many wimps around The democrats would rather win the WH then win the war-Tom Delay)
To: Sapper26
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posted on
05/16/2004 5:14:25 AM PDT
by
Unicorn
(Two many wimps around The democrats would rather win the WH then win the war-Tom Delay)
To: muslim_4ever
What is your opinion on the Palestinian homicide bombers who blow up buses and malls full of innocent men, women and children?
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posted on
05/16/2004 5:29:25 AM PDT
by
rbmillerjr
("When you meet the unbelievers, strike off their heads” Surat Mohammed:4)
To: muslim_4ever
I read what you wrote about Muslims having a weak God, and I suggest you don't talk about someone's religion or God if you don't know anything about it, because what you said there was VERY disrespectful.
Ah child of deception. A strong infinite God does not need finite beings to kill in his name. If the dogma is "just" then the religion would not have to spread by the sword.
Respect not fear is earned and Islam at this time is not deserving of respect until they show some sign civilization. Cutting off peoples heads in this day and age is not civilized.
Before you complain of the mess at other people's houses you should see about cleaning up your own.
We will not be dhimmis for anyone at anytime. I have read the Koran and The Oxford History of Islam and you guys are in real need of "enlightenment". (Civilizing)
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posted on
05/16/2004 7:20:56 AM PDT
by
BabsC
To: BabsC
ok I'm gonna tell you the same thing I said before some Muslims follow through Islam in a wrong meaning and if you're telling me that you have read the Holy Qura'an and still think it is an "uncivilized" religion then you haven't read it for wanting to read it, you read it for simply trying to tell us, Muslims, that it's wrong and when people treat other people in the way that everybody is treating Muslims right now I think they should start making things up and then those Muslims who go around making terriroist attacks will stop when they have raised the name of Islam and given the right of treated equally. And like I said before each religion MUST learn to respect the other. all three religions came from God and all are holy yet only 1 is right. Before you tell me who need "enlightenment" go look at what Isreali's are doing to Palastenians or go take a look at the prison in Guantanamo and go read the Qura'an one more time, then come and tell me who needs enlightnment.
To: muslim_4ever
Please explain the principle of Dhimitude.
To: rbmillerjr
I believe that what those Palastenians did is with no doubt wrong, but that's all they can do with the options that the Isrealis are giving them. Because of the israeli conquering them for about 50 yrs that they didn't obtain the civil ways and education but they are not to blame merely because they have been raised and brought up CAPTIVE. Now they will do anything to take away the fear that is like a parasite on their lives. And if the only way of protecting themselves from being the preys to israeli savages is to be the hunter rather than the hunted, so be it. This is nothing compared to thousands of homes destroyed by Isrealis, it's nothing compared to rocks returned by bullets, it's nothing compared to the little child Ahmad Al Durra who was killed right infront of his father's eyes, it's nothing compared to the millions of Palestians being tortured in the Isreali prisones, it's nothing compared to what Isrealis do to Palestenians. Nonetheless, you cannot base your image of islam on what is happening in palestine, for some people have not yet fully adapted the meaning of islam even after embracing the title of a Muslim.
To: muslim_4ever
Even though other religions have wronged IslamThe first act of expansionism on the part of Islam was the ransacking of Christian North Africa. Genocide was practiced through the first perpetrators of blitzkrieg, the Moslem horde. They murdered and pillaged their way all across Northern Africa, up into Spain, and into Southern France before they were stopped. This was a very bad beginning and bad first impression to make on the west for a religion that claims to be a religion of peace.
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posted on
05/17/2004 11:32:51 AM PDT
by
ThomasMore
(Pax et bonum!)
To: muslim_4ever
...in regard to Pali homicide bombers killing innocent men, women and children..
"it's nothing compared to what Isrealis do to Palestenians"
Well, then you are behaving like the "religion of peace" muslims that we see on TV every day. You advocate it as an option.
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posted on
05/17/2004 11:38:01 AM PDT
by
rbmillerjr
("When you meet the unbelievers, strike off their heads” Surat Mohammed:4)
To: muslim_4ever
I'll criticize it right here and now. There are passages in the toilet paper... er Koran... which encourages Muslims to go out and kill people like me. You will never find that in the Christian Bible. Why? Because Christ was about love and peace. Mohammed was nothing but a two bit thug. And it's a tragedy that over one billion people don't see that.
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posted on
05/17/2004 11:55:19 AM PDT
by
WinOne4TheGipper
(Screw Atkins, let's go on a high CARB diet: Keep Cheney, Ashcroft, Rummy and Bush!)
To: muslim_4ever
Before you tell me who need "enlightenment" go look at what Isreali's are doing to Palastenians or go take a look at the prison in Guantanamo and go read the Qura'an one more time, then come and tell me who needs enlightnment.
Israeli's are not aiming for pregnant women and their children, the prisoners at Gitmo are alive and haven't had their heads savagely removed while yelling God is great. The Qura'an does mention killing quite a few times and only treating humanely those that submit to ole mo's ranting.
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posted on
05/17/2004 12:13:09 PM PDT
by
BabsC
To: rbmillerjr
Let it be known to everyone in this site: I'm not here to discuss in depth politics and the events in Palastine and Iraq. I'm strictly here to improve the image of Islam to people who only know what the media conveys about it.
To: All
I'm sorry but I cannot come on this site for the next few weeks due to final exams so if anyone is posting any comments to me I'm sorry for not replying but when I have the
time I will come on and answer your questions
To: dila813
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posted on
06/01/2004 1:28:49 PM PDT
by
SJackson
(Be careful -- with quotations, you can damn anything, Andre Malraux)
To: muslim_4ever
In 1972, at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by:
(a) Olga Korbut
(b) Sitting Bull
(c) Arnold Schwartzenegger
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
(a) Lost Norwegians
(b) Elvis
(c) A tour bus full of 80 year old women
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
During the 1980's, a number of Americans were kidnaped in Lebanon by:
(a) John Dillinger
(b) The King of Sweden
(c) The Boy Scouts
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
(a) A pizza delivery boy
(b) Pee Wee Herman
(c) Geraldo Rivera
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked, and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard by:
(a) The Smurfs
(b) Davy Jones
(c) The Little Mermaid
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver was murdered by:
(a) Captain Kidd
(b) Charles Lindbergh
(c) Mother Teresa
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
(a) Scooby Doo
(b) The Tooth Fairy
(c) Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
(a) Richard Simmons
(b) Grandma Moses
(c) Michael Jordan
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
(a) Mr. Rogers
(b) Hillary Clinton
(c) The World Wrestling Federation
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked and destroyed, and thousands of people were killed by:
(a) Wiley E. Coyote
(b) The Supreme Court of Florida
(c) Mr. Bean
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
In 2002, the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
(a) Enron
(b) The Lutheran Church
(c) The NFL
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
In 2002, reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
(a) Bonnie and Clyde
(b) Captain Kangaroo
(c) Billy Graham
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17
You can keep your gutter religion, missy. Don't lecture anyone here about so-called 'misunderstandings' regarding islam. We've seen enough.
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posted on
06/01/2004 1:45:39 PM PDT
by
reagan_fanatic
(Liberalism is the end result of too many people peeing in the gene pool.)
To: muslim_4ever
Firstly I would like to apologize for my absence in this short while. To make right my seeming negligence, I shall make this reply quite long and comprehensive.
Please let me add, before I begin, that I wish for your minds to be as open to logic and rationalism and as far away from racism and discrimination. Please let not your strong pride in your religion (whatever it may be) cloud your reasonable mind. For if that would occur, then I know well the impact of this essay to you. Hence, please hide away the stubbornness, grant me your ears, and for some of you, widen the narrow mind that you feel makes you strong. I will begin with what I have acquired of knowledge about Islam and Christianity from the book The Choice by Ahmed Deedat.
This verse, to any Christian, should be known:
I will raise them up a prophet
From amongst their brethren,
Like unto thee,
And I will put my words in his mouth;
And he shall speak unto them
All that I shall command him.
(HOLY BIBLE) Deuteronomy 18:18
"LIKE UNTO THEE", who? JESUS? This verse has been sent to Moses and is believed to mean Jesus is the Prophet that is LIKE Moses. Rationalism we said, right? OJ.. so Ahmed asked how they are alike and was told they were both Prophets and both were Jews. Ahmed Deedat, with his unfailing overpowering knowledge, gave these names of Prophets who fit that very same description: Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, ETC! Though when he asked were there any other common features between Moses and Jesus to make Jesus distinct from this crowd, the reply was NO, nothing else
this reply came from a dominee. Ahmed reasoned with the man and gave him a piece of his mind. He said he thinks, in this prophecy, Muhammed was meant to be the Prophet and not Jesus. Why? because Muhammed was LIKE Moses. Deedat never gave an opinion without backing it up with solid facts so he asked the dominee to simply listen to those facts.
Firstly, He states three reasons why Jesus and Moses are not alike:
1) Jesus is a God and Moses is not.
2) Jesus died for the sins of the world but Moses dint.
3) Jesus went to hell for three days but Moses did not have to go there.
As for his preposition, he further explained how Muhammed and Moses are alike:
1) Both Muhammed and Moses had a father and mother. Jesus only had a mother and no human father.
2) Both of them were born in the natural course whereas Jesus was a miracle.
Mary said: "
How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? And the angel answered and said unto her, the holy ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the highest shall overshadow thee.."
(Luke 1:35)
The Holy Qur'an speaks of Jesus' birth in nobler terms..
Mary asked:
'O my lord how shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?'
The angel said:
'Even so: Allah createth what he willeth: when He hath decreed a Plan, He but saith to it "BE" and it is"
Holy Qur'an 3:47
What seems to be more logical but to prove with Jesus' birth, God's might?
3) Muhammed and Moses married women and had children; though, Jesus remained a bachelor his entire life.
4) Muhammed and Moses were both at first given troubles by their people but then were acknowledged to be Messengers of God sent upon them. However the Jews have rejected Jesus:
"He (Jesus) came unto his own, but his own received him not."
(John 1:11)
5) Moses and Muhammed were Prophets as well as kings. Jesus was given prophecy only.
6) Muhammed and Moses brought new laws and regulations to their people. Moses gave the Israelites Ten Commandments and gave a ceremonial law to guide his people. Muhammed turns complete ignorance and barbarism into elevated world-great accomplishers. He simply gave them Law and Order they never heard of. Jesus brought NO new laws or regulations, he only came to fulfill the old law:
"Think not that I am come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, till Heaven and Earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
(Matthew 5:17-18)
7) Both Muhammed and Moses died natural deaths but Jesus was tortured on the cross.
8) Both are buried in earth, but Jesus rests in heaven.
After this preposition, many of you may quite believe it but think it not important as to make you doubt the accuracy of your religion. Well after Deuteronomy 18:18, this is said:
"And it shall come to pass"(it is going to happen)"that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him"(I will take revenge)
Should you not think its a matter of significance putting in mind God is threatening revenge? Should you not look closely into that verse and examine it? I've done all that for you
all you have to do now is link each piece together.
Muhammed was illiterate before the Qur'an came down upon him with the Archangel Gabriel.
"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned"
"Saying, read this, I pray thee and he saith, I am not learned."
Holy Qur'an (7:158)
The bible says:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned"
Isaiah 29:12
Arabic bibles did NOT exist in the 6th century when Muhammed was Prophet. Furthermore, he was unlettered and unlearned; no human ever taught him a word
his knowledge came from his Creator this is proven in the Qur'an:
"He does not speak(aught), of (his own) desire. It is no less than inspiration sent down to him: He was taught by one mighty in power"
Sura Najm 53:3-5
"Without any human learning, he put to shame the wisdom of the learned."
Now let me get into your world and see what it has to offer. Jesus was the Messiah (Christ) but after him must come an Elias whom the people were expecting. Jesus reassured the people and said:
"
Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you, that Elias is come already, and they knew him not,
the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist."
Matthew 17:11-13
The Jews had to confirm the words of Jesus:
"And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent Priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, who art thou? And he confessed and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ." (Jesus was known to be the Christ and there couldnt be two Messiahs at the same era
so this response was normal) "And they asked him, what then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not"
Who to believe? John the Baptist who has been said to be great?
"Verily I say unto you, among them that are born of women there has not risen a greater that John the Baptist
"
John 1:21
Or shall I believe JESUS?
. Both of whom you think are great contradict each other. Now rationalize that.
Over the years 1934 to 1984 there was a 47% increase in Christianity,
A 70 % increase in Roman Catholics,
A 4 % increase in Judaism,
And a 235 % increase in ISLAM.
Rationalism wins after all
I ask not for your creed in my religion and I dont beg of you to convert. Islam is a religion that stands on its own
a religion that has fed and nurtured on the belief of its people
a religion with undying pride. Yes some Muslims do wrong things; I find it not in my right to contravene in such an issue; for I cannot speak for millions of independent minds. Though this I can speak of and I find myself the perfect orator
I will be Islam's spokesman; however, do not ask of me what I find is impossible; do not ask me to justify the acts of every Muslim
I am but one soul who seeks to raise the word of Islam
in the right way and manner
To: Jorge
"We knew that Bush is the sword of God, the enemy of Islam and Muslims. America declared war against shahids. Sharon declared war against shahids and God declared war against shahids, Bush and Sharon. ... The war of God continues against us, and I can see the victory coming up from the land of Texas by the hand of Bush."
This is the speech Aljizzera won't play.
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posted on
06/15/2004 6:19:17 PM PDT
by
tet68
( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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