1 posted on
04/19/2004 9:15:47 AM PDT by
presidio9
To: presidio9
Any person with the true heart of the faithful,one who believes the Word of God, will not allow his/her beliefs to become comprised by the principle MAN lives by.
Politicians whose religion forbids abortion, must take the stand of the higher cause, the Godly Cause, or they betray God. A politician who will betray God will also betray the people. If Catholic politicians do not follow and live by the tenants of the Church, it is simple: They are NOT Catholic, and are weak in character as well.
2 posted on
04/19/2004 9:22:52 AM PDT by
Iron Matron
(Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
To: presidio9
The Killea/Maher experience notwithstanding, the time has long come for ALL the bishops to unite and remove these "catholic" politicos from recieving communion. There will be hysteria from the weak kneed, and the clueless anticatholics of the liberal ilk. But thinking people will realize that you can't keep trotting up for communion and claim to be a _practising_ Catholic. It's like some jerk not wanting to be circumsized and then wanting to be bar mitzvahed. SUrrrreee, these idiots are free to support abortion all they want. Just don't expect communion if you do. If the bishops had found a spine and excommunicated all these "catholic" politicians at the same time, this issue would be long past us. The politicians would either have mended their ways, or at least they'd stop mocking the eucharist by consuming it through their rotten gullets.
To: presidio9
In fact, it is excommunication: the denial of the church's central sacrament and hence full participation in the Catholic community. Wrong, Charlotte. Denying Kerry the Eucharist does not deny him the Sacrament of Confession, of which he should avail himself of post haste. Besides, he's already excommunicated himself latae sententiae.
Sun Apr 18, 2:16 PM ET
Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites), addresses the congregation during services at the Ebenezer United Methodist Church, in Miami, Fl., Sunday, April 18, 2004. (AP Photo/Steven Senne)
To: presidio9
Abortion does not make a woman "unpregnant", it makes her the mother of a dead baby.
8 posted on
04/19/2004 9:38:47 AM PDT by
Big Mack
(I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain TO EAT VEGETABLES!)
To: presidio9
For we non-catholics - what does the church say on; capital punishment, homosexuality, and other sometimes controversial issue? Do all catholic politicians always/should follow the church's teaching on all matters?
To: presidio9
Kerry holds a position of great authority and seeks a higher one. He says he wants to keep church and state separate.
He "votes his conscience" on abortion in the secular world. But can he accept that within the Church, he does not have authority, but is subject to it, and bow to the dictates of the hierarchy on receiving communion?
Mrs VS
To: presidio9
(A Davis spokesman responded that the bishop was "telling the faithful how to practice their faith" and that the governor would continue to take Communion.)Hey, stupid - that's his job! What a maroon!
To: presidio9
Ironically, Kerry and Edward M. Kennedy, Massachusetts's other Catholic Democratic senator and also a supporter of abortion rights, received the sacrament at the archbishop's installation Mass last July. I wouldn't use the word, "ironic."
The bishops' cowardice is disgusting.
38 posted on
04/19/2004 12:18:45 PM PDT by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: presidio9
Kerry distinguishes between what he calls his personal opposition to abortion and his legislative support of unrestricted abortion. It's called trying to have it both ways and it's not new. It's cowardice.
40 posted on
04/19/2004 12:25:37 PM PDT by
Lost Highway
(The things of earth will grow strangely dim in the light of his glory and grace.)
To: presidio9
He should be refused the Eucharist also based on his marital situation, divorced and remarried (no annullment), as well.
44 posted on
04/19/2004 9:06:59 PM PDT by
TOUGH STOUGH
(A vote for president Bush IS a vote for principle.)
To: presidio9
I disagree with the title of the article. The choices are simple in that the righteousness of the choices are clear. Unfortunately, it's the politics behind the choices that complicate matters for our leaders.
45 posted on
04/19/2004 9:11:24 PM PDT by
TOUGH STOUGH
(A vote for president Bush IS a vote for principle.)
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