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Mich. City Council OKs Muslim Prayer Over Loudspeaker
AP ^ | 20APR04 | Cathy J. Palmer

Posted on 04/21/2004 5:34:31 AM PDT by BayouCoyote

Over some residents' objections, the City Council voted unanimously Tuesday night

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Michigan; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: church; muslim; muslimamericans; usa
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They will never relent. We must meet them at all fronts with only victory in mind.
1 posted on 04/21/2004 5:34:31 AM PDT by BayouCoyote
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To: BayouCoyote
Outrageous!!!!
2 posted on 04/21/2004 5:36:02 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: BayouCoyote
Holy crap..

Well, we might be outdoing europe on our own suicide.
3 posted on 04/21/2004 5:36:09 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: BayouCoyote
the City Council...

None of whose members are up for re-election, I take it.

4 posted on 04/21/2004 5:38:02 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: BayouCoyote
Afraid, enablers or co-conspirators. Just wait until the boom! boxes sheik up the neighborhood.
5 posted on 04/21/2004 5:39:07 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

6 posted on 04/21/2004 5:39:35 AM PDT by mhking
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To: mhking
Ridiculous!
7 posted on 04/21/2004 5:40:22 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (There is no problem so great that it cannot be solved with high powered explosives.)
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To: yankeedame

All rats?
9 posted on 04/21/2004 5:41:54 AM PDT by Unicorn (Two many wimps around)
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To: BayouCoyote
I certainly don't want to advocate any vandalism but, wouldn't a well placed shot be able to silence the loudspeaker?
10 posted on 04/21/2004 5:42:12 AM PDT by freedomson (Baruch Habba B'Shem Adonai)
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To: BayouCoyote
Has the city council implemented the Sharia yet?

How many times a day are they allowed to issue a fatwa?

What a bunch of sickening, spineless wimps.
11 posted on 04/21/2004 5:42:12 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (So you're a feminist - isn't that cute!)
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To: BayouCoyote
How about other religions? There's the Rosary, for example.
12 posted on 04/21/2004 5:43:01 AM PDT by Lord Basil
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To: BayouCoyote
Does anyone have the names, background, terms, etc of the city council members? It's hard to believe that the cool aid could be so strong in the council chambers without some other explanation.
13 posted on 04/21/2004 5:43:53 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: BayouCoyote
Since they have ok'd the loudspeakers, I see no reason why the churches cannot ring their bells in unison at the same time. I bet you could muster a volunteer force to do so.
14 posted on 04/21/2004 5:44:07 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: BayouCoyote
Would they allow the Angelus to be broadcast publicly there? I doubt it.

For those who don't know, the Angelus was a prayer said three times a day, at morning, noon and evening.

V. The Angel of the Lord declared unto Mary.
R. And she conceived of the Holy Spirit.
Hail Mary, etc.

V. Behold the handmaid of the Lord.
R. Be it done unto me according to thy word.
Hail Mary, etc.

V. And the Word was made Flesh.
R. And dwelt among us.
Hail Mary, etc.

V. Pray for us, O holy Mother of God.
R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.

15 posted on 04/21/2004 5:46:47 AM PDT by livius
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To: MEG33
I guess the city council doesn't want their down town blown up.
16 posted on 04/21/2004 5:47:56 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: Miss Marple
Wonder if the ACLU will address this?
17 posted on 04/21/2004 5:50:15 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: ladylib
You nailed it!

Leni

18 posted on 04/21/2004 5:50:56 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Paradise is not lost! You'll find it May 22 aboard "FReeps Ahoy 3". Register now for the cruise!)
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To: freedomson
"I certainly don't want to advocate any vandalism but, wouldn't a well placed shot be able to silence the loudspeaker?"

We could run a book on how long you'll have to wait to find out...put me down for twenty bucks on 4 minutes.

19 posted on 04/21/2004 5:51:54 AM PDT by mitch5501 (by the grace of God,I am what I am)
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To: Miss Marple; All
You people have absolutely no idea what you are in for do you? You are being led like lambs to the slaughter.

I made a post here on Freerepublic two years ago and mentioned that this was going to happen. People here said I was crazy and that it would NEVER happen in the United States.

This is only the beginning.

20 posted on 04/21/2004 5:53:13 AM PDT by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: BayouCoyote
Interesting, "under GOD" in schools is a no no, but islamic doctrine blasted over loudspeakers 5 times a day is A-OK.
21 posted on 04/21/2004 5:53:15 AM PDT by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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To: Miss Marple; All
You people have absolutely no idea what you are in for do you? You are being led like lambs to the slaughter.

I made a post here on Freerepublic two years ago and mentioned that this was going to happen. People here said I was crazy and that it would NEVER happen in the United States.

This is only the beginning.

22 posted on 04/21/2004 5:53:16 AM PDT by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: Miss Marple
That's just it though.... I thought a couple years ago they started restricting when Churches could ring their bells? Lawsuites and everything.

Now this?

So much for equality under the law.

23 posted on 04/21/2004 5:55:34 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: yankeedame
The fact that they all voted in favor of it shows their fear of the muslims. Dhimmitude is what they will get in return of their yielding to the vermin. This is the so called camels nose in the tent. Stay alert to what they will "ask" for next. There is supposed to be an appeal already filed...we'll see.
24 posted on 04/21/2004 5:55:37 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
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To: expatguy
Well, I saw the people of this Michigan town on television last night and I do believe they are not going down without a fight. I expect more news about this.

I have no doubt Muslims in the US are going to push things as far as they can. However, unlike many other countries, we still have a strong Christian faith among a majority of our citizens. This will enable us to resist, unlike places like France.

25 posted on 04/21/2004 5:57:29 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: BayouCoyote
This 'religion' has the whole world by the short and curlies because terrorism WORKS. 9/11 was the biggest coup in history, what a brilliant PR move on their part.

And no, I'm not sarcastic. Look at how much focus islam is getting now, and how much acceptance for it we're getting shoved done our throats.
26 posted on 04/21/2004 5:58:15 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: BayouCoyote
Every church in town should be installing loudspeakers right now.
27 posted on 04/21/2004 5:59:05 AM PDT by T'wit (The only difference between Communists, Fascists, Nazis and reporters is the color of their shirt.)
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To: Dead Corpse
If the churches cannot ring their bells, but the call to prayer can be broadcast, then I believe we are talking about a Constitutional issue which could be taken to the Supreme Court.

I would start by ringing those bells at the 10 churches closest to the mosque. And I would ring them at every call to prayer.

28 posted on 04/21/2004 5:59:28 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: BayouCoyote
This just re-enforces my theory that city councils are a collection of the dumbest people in the area. I swear, to be qualified to be on any city council...you must first pass a test to determine how dumb you are. Only the bottom 10% even qualify and out of this group only the bottom 1% have any chance of being elected........
29 posted on 04/21/2004 5:59:51 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (god, I hate politicians)
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To: Miss Marple
Since they have ok'd the loudspeakers, I see no reason why the churches cannot ring their bells in unison at the same time. I bet you could muster a volunteer force to do so.

Ringing of church bells would offend the muslims so it's not going to be allowed. We'll get used to it ---- they're getting used to it in the Sudan.

30 posted on 04/21/2004 6:02:58 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Well, I am not so pessimistic as some of you. We shall see.
31 posted on 04/21/2004 6:04:06 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: BayouCoyote
More toothpaste out of the tube. This bodes ill for that town.
32 posted on 04/21/2004 6:04:42 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm ( )
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To: Miss Marple
Well, I saw the people of this Michigan town on television last night and I do believe they are not going down without a fight. I expect more news about this.

I hope and pray you are right.....as a metro Detroiter it breaks my heart to hear this happening in such a place as Hamtramck which used to be a mostly Polish Catholic community. I can't imagine what the oldest residents must be thinking. It must be offensive and intimidating at the same time to have to listen to a muslim call to prayer knowing what that faith preaches to their people. It's absolutely disgusting to know this will happen EVERYWHERE in the US if this isn't defeated in the court system. God help this country.

33 posted on 04/21/2004 6:04:52 AM PDT by Ragirl (Vote in '04 ! Those who sit on their hands end up with poop on them.)
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To: MEG33
Can't concerned citizens take up the issue with the ACLU?
34 posted on 04/21/2004 6:04:55 AM PDT by rintense (Now I know why liberals hate guns... they keep shooting themselves in the foot!)
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To: BayouCoyote
Big mistake by the city council. After a week or two of prayers 5 times a day and complaints of noise violations by an enraged citizenry, the council, in fear of their jobs (if not their lives) will be forced to rescind their ruling.

This is nuts. Church bells are being silenced so that Muslims can broacast their caterwauling at all hours of the day and night?
35 posted on 04/21/2004 6:05:07 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: expatguy
How are things holding up in Malaysia? You're getting a first hand picture of what Islam's all about , aren't you?
36 posted on 04/21/2004 6:05:58 AM PDT by gracex7 (The LORD is not slack concerning His promise....but is longsuffering to us-ward. 2 Peter 3:9)
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To: Miss Marple
I would start by ringing those bells at the 10 churches closest to the mosque. And I would ring them at every call to prayer.

Easiest way to get a liberal to lose their cool is to demonstrate their own hyporcrisy.

Tell Quasimoto that he's got a bit of work ahead of him.

37 posted on 04/21/2004 6:06:24 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: BayouCoyote
Where are these being broadcast? Are they loudspeakers that are on the mosque property? I don't understand?
38 posted on 04/21/2004 6:08:05 AM PDT by jtminton (<><)
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To: DustyMoment
The article doesn't say that churches cannot ring bells. The only mention of bells is: "...Opponents argued that church bells have no religious significance...."

Personally, I would prefer the sounds of silence.

39 posted on 04/21/2004 6:09:09 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: BayouCoyote
The freeging ACLU are fighting churches all over this country for ringing their bells. Where are these losers now? Where is that thing about forcing the rest to hear your prayers! We get the government we deserve! If the ACLU, and the Moslems are well organize to destroy Christianity, and the stupid Christians are happy to let them, so be it!
40 posted on 04/21/2004 6:10:25 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: BayouCoyote
If I recall, Hamtramck votes overwhelmingly Democrat.

You reap what you sow.

41 posted on 04/21/2004 6:11:55 AM PDT by Gritty ("Secularism casts aside any idea of a West that should be protected-Serge Trifkovic)
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To: BayouCoyote
Other than aesthetically, how is this different than the angelus bells?
42 posted on 04/21/2004 6:14:04 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Miss Marple
I don't know --- I think you'd better be looking around for a good burka --- wait till the muslims decide your unveiled face is offensive to them. After all we must give them their freedom to enforce their religion on us.
43 posted on 04/21/2004 6:14:52 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: BayouCoyote
THIS IS A STEP TOWARD NATIONAL SUICIDE.

Why we continue to allow this 'religion' to be practiced in America after 9/11 is beyond me - were there any State Shinto shrines built after Pearl Harbor?

Sickening.

45 posted on 04/21/2004 6:18:24 AM PDT by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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"...I have no doubt Muslims in the US are going to push things as far as they can. However, unlike many other countries, we still have a strong Christian faith among a majority of our citizens. This will enable us to resist, unlike places like France...[sic]"

With all due respect, resisting is not going to suffice. They are rolling over you.

Ask yourself a simple question. Are you prepared to kill Muslims because of their beliefs? If you are taken aback and balk at such a direct question then I think the you still don't realize what you are up against.

You are at war with Islam whether you want to admit it or not. They have declared war on you and you balk at them.

Americans can't imagine having to fight someone because of their "religion" and yet they can fight someone because of their "idealogy"

You were prepared to kill Russians because they were Communist (ie. their beliefs, their idealogy). What is the difference now?

So far, I would say that Islam is winning for the simple reason that Americans are idealogically unable to confront and defeat this type of enemy.

46 posted on 04/21/2004 6:18:32 AM PDT by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: BayouCoyote
unanimously

There is something here. Couple years ago I found a story about a town where the Islamic Academy wanted to move in. They gave the town badly needed funding for some water development that was terribly needed. To the tune of several million dollars as I recall. Then they donated a large sum to the local PTA. And they got their votes for what they needed, it was something about expanding the town borders, I think.

I believe it was Saudi money. A good investigator might be worth the townspeople's money.

I wonder if they hired an attorney....we helped our neighbors with one last year to stop the placement of a level 3 sex offender home only 8 miles from us. (We won.)

I hope they don't give up fighting it.

47 posted on 04/21/2004 6:20:05 AM PDT by MarMema (next year in Constantinople!)
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To: expatguy
If I had read you when you foretold this I would have believed you. I am now convinced that if Kerry is elected we'll be forced to bow to Mecca within 2 years.
48 posted on 04/21/2004 6:21:31 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: BayouCoyote
We will be hearing this sound all over the country in a very short time..
49 posted on 04/21/2004 6:23:53 AM PDT by .45MAN ("Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..")
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To: Lord Basil
How about other religions? There's the Rosary, for example.

That's what I was thinking...given that Hamtramck is largely Polish, largely Catholic, the residents should insist on five full rosaries, in English, and another five, in Polish, to be broadcast daily.

50 posted on 04/21/2004 6:23:59 AM PDT by grellis (Mi sento male. Ho fatto un'indigestione!)
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