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Parents angered by son's suspension over peanut cookies ["You cannot speak to the principal,"....]
NJ.COM ^

Posted on 04/22/2004 11:20:08 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Edited on 07/06/2004 6:39:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

SOUTH ORANGE, N.J. (AP) The parents of a sixth-grader say they are outraged over an indefinite suspension of their son after he was accused of threatening to expose a highly allergic teacher to peanut butter cookies.

The boy's father, Loubert Gabriel, said his 12-year-old son, Jules, was suspended on April 2 after a girl in his social studies class at South Orange Middle School made the accusation.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: allergy; discipline; foodallergies
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1 posted on 04/22/2004 11:20:09 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
Peanut Butter Sends Teacher To The Nutter. Film at 11.
2 posted on 04/22/2004 11:22:14 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sub-Driver
Y'know, I am 35 years old and attended public school all my life. I never knew one child who was allergic to peanuts. My sister is 32 and my brother is 28, and I asked them - they remember no such allergy.

If it's real, what made it happen in the '80s?
3 posted on 04/22/2004 11:22:22 AM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Xenalyte
40 years old - been allergic to peanuts since I was about 10. I can, however, eat small amounts of peanut butter, but it has to be creamy and low in oil content. Prior to 10, I ate peanuts all the time. Why can't you get an allergy to stuff that you don't like? Seems unfair...
4 posted on 04/22/2004 11:24:38 AM PDT by AzSteven
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To: Xenalyte
I have never seen or heard of anyone I know or anyone they know that had this..
5 posted on 04/22/2004 11:25:19 AM PDT by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: Xenalyte
Its very real.

And very deadly.

Personally I think the teacher should have another profession instead of forcing her situation on hundreds if not thousands of others.
6 posted on 04/22/2004 11:26:20 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: Xenalyte
early exposure to peanuts prior to being above 1 year old....

So I have been told.....from what I understand it is rare, but that is the reason arilines don't serve peanuts anymore.......
7 posted on 04/22/2004 11:26:34 AM PDT by vin-one (REMEMBER the WTC !!!!!!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver
It's hard to believe they are keeping this boy out of school for well over a MONTH based on unproven accusations.

Why do they have to wait till MAY for the Superintendents hearing?

These people need a good lawyer ASAP.
8 posted on 04/22/2004 11:27:03 AM PDT by katnip
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To: Sub-Driver
My kids go to a private school and peanut products are verboten.

They have nut nazis who phreak out when a PBJ appears on campus.

9 posted on 04/22/2004 11:27:21 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Xenalyte
Peanut allergies are very real, and can be fairly deadly. They have been known for at least 50 years. It is one of the "real" allergies worth considering safeguards for, if you are the one with the allergy. But this is plain dumb. Either charge the child with conspiracy to commit murder (and prepare to be ridiculed) or have a quick sit-down with the parents and that should be the end of it.
10 posted on 04/22/2004 11:27:41 AM PDT by Cobra Scott
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To: Xenalyte
If it's real, what made it happen in the '80s?

Jimmy Carter??? (1977-1981)

11 posted on 04/22/2004 11:29:02 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Cobra Scott
I can just see Michael Moore's next documentary project: Peanut Butter Massacre.
12 posted on 04/22/2004 11:29:08 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: TLI
My sister's friend died from it.

The man was at a BBQ where he asked if any peanut oil was used in the BBQ sauce. The cook said no. It turned out otherwise.
13 posted on 04/22/2004 11:29:19 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: Xenalyte
If it's real, what made it happen in the '80s?

It's very real. My daughter, who is 4, has been to the ER three times after being exposed to whatever it is in peanuts that causes the reaction. She's not a pretty sight when it happens.

My wife and I take it in stride. We make sure she takes the responsibility for what she puts in her mouth instead of making the world conform to her. (I don't trust the world to watch out for my kid.) It's worked well for us. She does a firm but friendly interrogation of food contents.

14 posted on 04/22/2004 11:29:21 AM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: Sub-Driver

"From my cold, dead fingers..."


15 posted on 04/22/2004 11:29:28 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Xenalyte
Peanut butter has not been a staple for *that* long. It seems to be caused by an overexposure at an early age, so if kids have been munching on PBJ since the 50s, it stands to reason that these allergies wouldn't begin popping up in large numbers until the PB-loving Baby Boomers started having children.

I've heard anecdotes of mothers ingesting ungodly huge amounts of PB while pregnant and then giving birth to peanut-butter-allergic kids. It seems to be an immune reaction. Everything in moderation...
16 posted on 04/22/2004 11:29:41 AM PDT by Nataku X
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To: Sub-Driver
I guess they don't want this kid back in school. Maybe his parents should take him on a vacation somewhere. When they come back, they can make plans to homeschool him.
17 posted on 04/22/2004 11:29:45 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: Xenalyte
When Nutter Butters are outlawed, only outlaws will have Nutter Butters.

Now I'm starting to crave some...

18 posted on 04/22/2004 11:30:03 AM PDT by EllaMinnow ("Pessimism never won any battle." - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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To: vin-one
So I have been told.....from what I understand it is rare, but that is the reason arilines don't serve peanuts anymore.......

I thought it was because they were too cheap to anymore.

19 posted on 04/22/2004 11:30:19 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Xenalyte
It is rare, usually brought about by exposure to peanuts or peanut products as an infant, particularly if said infant was not nursed. The reaction can be fatal.

This threat should have been responded to with premeditated self-defense on the teacher's part.
20 posted on 04/22/2004 11:31:13 AM PDT by Poohbah (Darkdrake Lives!)
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To: goldstategop
Nyaah nyahh...I'm a weapon of mass itching!

21 posted on 04/22/2004 11:31:46 AM PDT by TheBigB (FINALLY got my FReepin' profile page done! :))
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To: Sub-Driver
This whole peanut crap is ridiculous. I am "deadly" alergic to wasps, but they are everywhere, including schoolyards.

This peanut hysteria is more about the racist left trying to deny George Washington Carver his due. That damn uppity scientist!
22 posted on 04/22/2004 11:33:49 AM PDT by whereasandsoforth (tagged for migratory purposes only)
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To: billorites
Next it will be the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Peanuts. They can shuffle the letters a little and make it the PFAT.
23 posted on 04/22/2004 11:34:25 AM PDT by old3030 ("Appearances are a glimpse of what is hidden." (Anaxagoras))
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To: Glenn
I don't trust the world to watch out for my kid.

I'm certainly sorry to hear about the challenges that your daughter has to face, but I'm convinced that you're taking the right precautions in the face of this.

24 posted on 04/22/2004 11:34:26 AM PDT by FormerLib (Feja e shqiptarit eshte terorizm.)
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To: billorites

25 posted on 04/22/2004 11:35:23 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (a democracy can only exist until the people find they can vote themselves largess from the treasury)
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To: cinFLA
no you can still get some tasty pretzels.....
and maybe even a cracker or two.......

but no peanuts!!!!!then again I have been wrong once before.....
26 posted on 04/22/2004 11:35:30 AM PDT by vin-one (REMEMBER the WTC !!!!!!!!)
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To: Xenalyte
This IS a real threat. My 8 year old nephew is so allergic that he has a portable nebulizer with him at all times that he knows how to use if needed. His mother bought a portable one after he had a reaction in an airplane. Airplanes don't have electrical outlets for passengers to use. The pilot called ahead to have paramedics meet the boy at the plane. This may be rare but it's real.
27 posted on 04/22/2004 11:36:01 AM PDT by Texagirl4W (Only when we have knelt before God, can we stand before man. -Anonymous)
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To: Sub-Driver
Step away from the cookie!
28 posted on 04/22/2004 11:36:25 AM PDT by justlurking
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To: Sub-Driver
I once had a co-worker who was alergic to peanuts. He would swell up, turn red, and be unable to breath. That was his reaction one day at a McDonalds, where the employees swore they did not use peanut oil. He ate two fries and went off.

He's probably 50 now.
29 posted on 04/22/2004 11:37:39 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"You cannot speak to the principal," she said.

Can we e-mail him/her?

It must be a blast going to public school today, always having to watch your back because you don't know who, for whatever reason, is going to snitch on you. No such thing as due process anymore either.
30 posted on 04/22/2004 11:37:52 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: Xenalyte
Well, I don't know anyone that personally suffers from the peanut allergy, but there was a scene in "The DaVinci Code" where it was used to murder someone.
31 posted on 04/22/2004 11:38:45 AM PDT by LanPB01
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To: Sub-Driver
The teacher allergic teacher needs to be FIRED! She obviously knows nothing about her young charges and is intolerant.

The priciple and all authorities involve in keeping this child from school should be called into account as well and FIRED.

These parents need to try and afford a PRIVATE school where NAZIS are not the authority.
32 posted on 04/22/2004 11:39:01 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: Sub-Driver
"You cannot speak to the principal," she said.

Can you send the principal a case of peanuts?

33 posted on 04/22/2004 11:39:53 AM PDT by bmwcyle (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: Xenalyte
I am 35 years old and attended public school all my life. I never knew one child who was allergic to peanuts.

That's because they all died from Nutter Butter poisoning before you could meet them.

34 posted on 04/22/2004 11:40:10 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Sub-Driver
God bless us, a Jimmy Carter moment.
35 posted on 04/22/2004 11:43:11 AM PDT by hgro
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To: DB
Folks with nut allergies have the same obligation diabetics have ~ namely, READ THE LABELS. And if there are no labels, don't take the risk!

I read every label. If it says as much as 2g carbohydrates per "serving", I don't eat it!

36 posted on 04/22/2004 11:45:03 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: bmwcyle
My wife is convinced it's a ruse to get attention. There are a dozen kids deathly allergic to peanuts at the school but none have ever had a reaction despite being accidentally exposed. Some will realize they have been exposed and come unglued but nothing major.

Imagine this. Your child is deathly allergic to peanuts. Schools are full of peanuts. Do you send your child to their possible death? Not a chance at our house. I guess we are just weird that way.
37 posted on 04/22/2004 11:46:03 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: TC Rider
A freshman at Brown University died a few years ago. She was at a restaurant and asked if the chili had any peanuts in it. Cook said no. Cook was wrong. The girl died after ingesting a very small amount.
38 posted on 04/22/2004 11:46:33 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Xenalyte
When I was in college, we had huge party in our NYU dorm/apartment. The party was busted by an RA, and one of first things said to us in the scolding was "parties like this cannot be tolerated, because a student could get drunk and mistakenly consume food containing peanuts, triggering an allergic reaction resulting in death." Apparently, that happened once and NYU got sued.

On a similar note, my boss's daughter is highly allergic to peanuts and cannot even ingest dust from cracked peanut shells. It is real.
39 posted on 04/22/2004 11:47:17 AM PDT by Jadge
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To: Sub-Driver
"... a girl who does not like his son .."

Me thinks me smells something afoul. Could it be that this kid is a "general" troublmaker and maybe it was a perverbial straw for the principal? I just can't see a suspension like this for a kid who has had a "good student" track record in the past. I just get the feeling he's not so innocent.
40 posted on 04/22/2004 11:47:27 AM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: muawiyah
Exposure to the oil vapor is enough in the case of peanuts. Eating isn't necessary.
41 posted on 04/22/2004 11:47:52 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Xenalyte
I know. You used to never hear of any such thing.
Maybe it's the pesticides they spray on the crops
in storage or in the fields.
42 posted on 04/22/2004 11:49:10 AM PDT by Twinkie
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To: Xenalyte
I think it's partly something to do with whatever they changed in peanut butter - in the 60's it was utterly disgusting, thick and grainy and I hated it. The current stuff is pretty good. I think another factor is that because there are peanuts in absolutely everything these days, early childhood exposure is almost unavoidable.

I read an article a couple of years ago about a woman whose child was deathly allergic (and was insisting that no child who attended the same school with hers should be allowed to bring peanut butter sandwiches for lunch) who had had such severe "morning" sickness that the only thing she could keep down was peanut butter - she ate a jar a day.

I'm 44 and didn't start hearing about peanut allergies till maybe ten or fifteen years ago.
43 posted on 04/22/2004 11:49:25 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: muawiyah
I agree, it's your life to lose.


I just had some pie yesterday that had 51g of carbs...

I don't do it often...

Otherwise I gain weight...
44 posted on 04/22/2004 11:51:06 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: Iron Matron
Nazis are from the far right and Communists are from the far left.
Can we get this straight and start calling them Communists from now on?
45 posted on 04/22/2004 11:52:17 AM PDT by packing heat (Let's make a glow-in-the-dark sandbox.)
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To: Cobra Scott
Peanut allergies are very real, and can be fairly deadly.

That's one of the reasons that many airlines no longer offer peanut snacks.

46 posted on 04/22/2004 11:55:04 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Integrityrocks
I had a lot of people not like me in school and I didn't cause much trouble. I was honest and blatantly forthright in my convictions. That bothered a lot of people.
Even if this kid is a troublemaker, they shouldn't suspend him indefinitely. They have no right to go to such lengths.
In addition, they are holding him suspended on one accusation, not because he's a known troublemaker. If that is the case, then they need to make that clear.
47 posted on 04/22/2004 11:56:05 AM PDT by packing heat (I pity the fool.)
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To: DB
51g?

I haven't had that much in a month!

48 posted on 04/22/2004 11:56:11 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: packing heat
Nazis are from the far right and Communists are from the far left.
Can we get this straight and start calling them Communists from now on?


LOL! O. K. Done.
49 posted on 04/22/2004 11:56:39 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: Xenalyte
When I was 4 my brother's witnessed a boy die in the cafeteria because of peanuts, that was 1957.
50 posted on 04/22/2004 11:57:25 AM PDT by tiki
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