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Atta/Prague new information (Edward Jay Epstein)
Edward Jay Epstein ^ | 4/23/04 | Edward Jay Epstein

Posted on 04/23/2004 8:46:16 AM PDT by TrebleRebel

Question:

Three years have passed since the putative meeting in Prague between hijacker Mohammed Atta and Iraq Consul al-Ani. What has the CIA, FBI, Czech intelligence (BIS) and other intelligence services established about the activities of the alleged participants at this meeting?

Answer:

1) Ahmad Khalil Ibrahim Samir al-Ani served as consul at Iraq's embassy in Prague between March 1999 and April 21, 2001 and he was activity involved in agent-handling during this period. 2) Mohammed Atta applied for a visa to visit the Czech Republic on May 26, 2000 in Bonn, Germany According to Czech visa records, Atta identified himself as being a "Hamburg student." Since a visa was not necessary to catch a Czech plane to the US, Czech intelligence concluded he had business in the Czech Republic. 3) Just prior to leaving for the U.S., Atta made 2 trips to the Czech Republic in 2000. The first was on May 30, where he went without a visa to the transit lounge of Prague International Airport; the second was by bus to Prague on June 2 with visa BONN200005260024. 4) On April 4, 2001, Atta checked out of the Diplomat Inn in Virginia Beach and cashed a check for $8,000 from a SunTrust account, according to the FBI. Atta was not seen again in America by any witness before April 11, 2001. 5) Al-Ani scheduled a meeting on April 8,2001 with a "Hamburg student" according to an appointment calendar subsequently turned up by Czech intelligence in a surreptitious search of the Iraq Embassy (presumably after the defeat of Iraq in April 2003.) 6) Al-Ani was observed meeting a young Arab-speaking man on the outskirts of Prague on April 8th by a watcher for Czech counterintelligence.

7) After seeing Atta’s picture on September 11th, the watcher identified the Arab-speaking man as Mohammed Atta. 8 ) Al-Ani was expelled from Prague less than 2 weeks after that meeting. 9 ) After 9-11, Al-Ani denied that he met Atta , as did the Baghdad government. Al-Ani repeated that denial after he was detained by U.S. forces in July 2003. 10 ) The CIA determined, according to George Tenet testimony before a Joint Committee of Congress (June 18, 2002): “Atta allegedly traveled outside the US in early April 2001 to meet with an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague, we are still working to confirm or deny this allegation. It is possible that Atta traveled under an unknown alias since we have been unable to establish that Atta left the US or entered Europe in April 2001 under his true name or any known aliases.” 11) Subsequently, Spanish intelligence found evidence that Algerians Khaled Madani and Moussa Laouar provided false passports to Mohamed Atta and his associate Ramzi bin al-Shibh.


TOPICS: Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; alani; alqaedaandiraq; atta; czechatta; iraq; prague
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Contains new information - apparently al-Ani's calendar noted a meeting with "Hamburg student" on April 8. This was exactly the phrse Atta used in his Czech visa application.
1 posted on 04/23/2004 8:46:17 AM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: Shermy; Mitchell; genefromjersey; kattracks
ping
2 posted on 04/23/2004 8:47:42 AM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: Grampa Dave; Cindy; ladyinred; knighthawk; Eurotwit; Sabertooth; swarthyguy; dennisw; yonif
Make sure to archive this, and have these facts ready when the usual idiots and dissemblers say "there's no connection between Iraq and 9-11" or "there's no proof Atta ever met with an Iraqi spymaster in Prague."
3 posted on 04/23/2004 9:08:46 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: TrebleRebel
Respekt article, but doesn't mention the notebook:

Mohammad Atta’s Decisive Meeting

4 posted on 04/23/2004 9:33:16 AM PDT by Shermy (Where's that ping list...)
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To: TrebleRebel
meaning...#5 "appointment calendar"
5 posted on 04/23/2004 9:35:05 AM PDT by Shermy (Where's that ping list...)
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks for the ping.

It was always curious how the Atta czeck connection went below the radar.

In enemy territory like Norway I need all the ammo I can get my hands on :-)

Cheers.
6 posted on 04/23/2004 9:38:52 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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Do you find it believable that an appointment calendar entry would not include a name but just a description ("Hamburg student")?
7 posted on 04/23/2004 9:40:45 AM PDT by Mitchell
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To: TrebleRebel
I thought Czech Intelligence actually monitered the meeting. Is this not the case?
8 posted on 04/23/2004 9:44:46 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: TrebleRebel
Bump for later.
9 posted on 04/23/2004 9:50:39 AM PDT by Valin (Hating people is like burning down your house to kill a rat)
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To: Mitchell; okie01
Absolutely. Not only would it not have its name, Al-Ani himself might not even know Atta's real name. And is Al-Ani a mastermind, or just a messenger?

What kind of calendar? Al-Ani's? Or some general calendar? Maybe to document his leaving the embassy he had give a generic statement. Don't know.

Seems totalitarians like to document things...But then the Czechs might have created it to enhance their story.

For me the telling incident was the blatant disinformation about Vaclav Havel. That put the story beyond a mere conflict between honest disagreements.

10 posted on 04/23/2004 9:55:08 AM PDT by Shermy (Where's that ping list...)
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I think it would have a name. Maybe a fake name, but a name.

Even getting into the buildings of corporations typically requires giving your name, signing in, and often showing some ID.

And it seems awfully convenient that the phrase is apparently an exact match for Atta's self-description on his visa application.

11 posted on 04/23/2004 10:06:29 AM PDT by Mitchell
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To: TrebleRebel
There was a thread on this late last night. As far as I am concerned it cannot be duplicated too many times. The knowledge of this connection is the key to destroying Bush's/America's enemies.
12 posted on 04/23/2004 10:23:11 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic RATmedia agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Mitchell
I think it would have a name. Maybe a fake name, but a name.

Depends on the purpose of the "appointment calendar". Maybe "Hamburg student" is the "name." Or maybe there was a name...was their more info in the doucment? Who wrote it? Was it for Al-Ani? Etc., etc.

Even getting into the buildings of corporations typically requires giving your name, signing in, and often showing some ID.

By the little information given I cannot tell if it was an in-house meeting, or recording a meeting elsewhere. Anyway, certain people need not follow procedures...

And it seems awfully convenient that the phrase is apparently an exact match for Atta's self-description on his visa application.

Maybe. but why not? Note that "student" has a religious significance, eg "Talib". I'd like to see the original language reports.

13 posted on 04/23/2004 11:09:26 AM PDT by Shermy (Where's that ping list...)
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To: TrebleRebel; Mitchell
shaking the memory tree...

Where's that Glenn A. Fine report mentioned by Respekt magazine???
14 posted on 04/23/2004 11:19:09 AM PDT by Shermy (Where's that ping list...)
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To: Travis McGee
Thank you Mr. McGee
15 posted on 04/23/2004 12:40:01 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Mitchell; archy
Do you find it believable that an appointment calendar entry would not include a name but just a description ("Hamburg student")?

Totally! For a meeting between a spymaster and a terrorist leader? Heck yes! It's just to serve as a nudge for the spymaster's memory, it's shorthand code as a precaution. If it had named Atta, it would be much LESS convincing.

16 posted on 04/23/2004 1:02:03 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Cindy; Eurotwit
You're welcome!
17 posted on 04/23/2004 1:03:29 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Leaves the question, why has the administration sat on this info.

Pakistan I can understand when the head of ISI wired cash to Atta through Omar Sheikh, but why coverup about Iraq's involvement?
18 posted on 04/23/2004 1:06:47 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy; Coop; patton; archy; Dog; risk
I wish I knew. It may be bureaucratic CYA, similar to covering up the John Doe 2 connection in OKC. It's just too embarrassing to drag up old departmental failures, and air them to the world. Nobody wants to put their division on report as a pack of idiots. Much easier to ignore it and just "move forward." In a bureaucratic sense, I mean.
19 posted on 04/23/2004 1:24:26 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
If it had named Atta, it would be much LESS convincing.

Well, I wasn't thinking that Atta's name would appear, but that the entry would have included a fake name. That would have been less suspicious that an entry with no name.

Of course, maybe there was a fake name. We really don't know.

20 posted on 04/23/2004 1:50:23 PM PDT by Mitchell
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