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Desperate Afghan Women Opt for Fiery Suicides
Reuters ^ | April 23, 2004 | David Brunnstrom

Posted on 04/24/2004 7:03:04 AM PDT by prairiebreeze

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This seems to be particularly prevelant in Herat.
1 posted on 04/24/2004 7:03:05 AM PDT by prairiebreeze
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To: prairiebreeze
There are probably still Kalishnikovs all over that country - why not pick one up and declare a personal self-defense jihad against an abusive husband?
2 posted on 04/24/2004 7:11:37 AM PDT by valkyrieanne
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I have a suspicion that claiming self-defense for a woman doesn't carry much water in Islamic court.

Prairie
3 posted on 04/24/2004 7:13:02 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Gorelick, Ben-Veniste, Kerrey, Roemer. All proud, card-carrying members of "America's Fifth Column".)
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I thought that we had brought the rule of law and democracy to Afghanistan! Another nation-building failure. So what else is new.
4 posted on 04/24/2004 7:16:27 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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No, but if they declare Jihad...
5 posted on 04/24/2004 7:18:35 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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"...Another nation-building failure. So what else is new."

Uh, they burned women as witches in Salem, Massachusetts at one point in OUR history.

One generation or two is but a blink of an eye in terms of time and long-term successful results.

6 posted on 04/24/2004 7:21:45 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: prairiebreeze
The islamo-fascist version of a woman's right to choose.
7 posted on 04/24/2004 7:22:06 AM PDT by trek
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>Uh, they burned women as witches in Salem, Massachusetts at one point in OUR history. One generation or two is but a blink of an eye in terms of time and long-term successful results.

Not to be picky,
but they didn't burn witches.
They hanged them, crushed them,

or they died in jail.
And almost half of the dead
were men. Damn details . . .

8 posted on 04/24/2004 7:29:35 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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Thanks for filling in the details.

Nevertheless, our country saw some pretty horrific deeds done in the name of religion too.

9 posted on 04/24/2004 7:36:07 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Leave it to you to blame Bush/America for on-going cultural misogyny. As usual, you miss the point here. Austin, remind me never to count on you for anything that requires courage, determination and steadfastness.

Prairie
10 posted on 04/24/2004 7:40:56 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Gorelick, Ben-Veniste, Kerrey, Roemer. All proud, card-carrying members of "America's Fifth Column".)
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I don't understand people who immolate themselves. There are so many more pleasant and reliable ways to die. Why is this method so prevalent in Asia??
11 posted on 04/24/2004 7:41:36 AM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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A religion of peace? I say a religion that must be wiped from the face of the earth!
12 posted on 04/24/2004 7:42:20 AM PDT by Camel Joe (Proud Uncle of a Fine Young Marine)
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To: AntiGuv
Can I hazard a guess that it is one last final dramatic "in-you-face" reaction to abuse? Or perhaps there is some spiritual connection to this method.

Maybe it's just cheap and available.

Prairie
13 posted on 04/24/2004 7:46:13 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Gorelick, Ben-Veniste, Kerrey, Roemer. All proud, card-carrying members of "America's Fifth Column".)
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I have a suspicion this is where the 72 virgins come in. Countless numbers of young girls have committed suicide over the centuries or were killed by their husbands who claim if they can't have them in life they'll have them in death for eternity.
14 posted on 04/24/2004 7:47:08 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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Um, no, there were no witch-burnings in this country. Hangings yes, burnings no.
15 posted on 04/24/2004 7:47:22 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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Burnings...hangings....

Dead is dead!

16 posted on 04/24/2004 7:52:03 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: prairiebreeze
I made a specific point about the failure of nation building. Do you disagree?
17 posted on 04/24/2004 7:56:22 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: prairiebreeze
This is so tragic. It at least sounds like the woman has a good father.

Stories like this prove that the dysfuntional nature of the Islamic culture is deeply rooted.

18 posted on 04/24/2004 7:58:56 AM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (A vote for president Bush IS a vote for principle.)
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How MANY women,one wonders ?? 4 ? 5? A dozen ?

I'm reminded of some of that "anecdotal evidence" showing 1 in 5, or 1 in 4,or maybe 1 in 3 women are sexually abused every day by their spouses.
19 posted on 04/24/2004 8:00:09 AM PDT by genefromjersey (So little time - so many FLAMES to light !!)
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>Dead is dead!

Yes, but the point is
you are also wrong to see
religion as the

driving issue in
the Salem witch trials. Review
the social issues.

And, ultimately,
it was Cotton Mather who
denounced evidence

from spirit sources.
Pop myths are entertaining,
they're not history.

20 posted on 04/24/2004 8:01:41 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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