[Cvengr]

Both positions you offer are false.

[RonHolzwarth]

Hmmm,,, you sure lost me there.

you said: "Both positions you offer are false."

I brought out so many possibilities in my comments, and never once stated a firm belief of my own, except that the Tanakh, that is, the Torah, Nevi'im, and Kethuvim (that's the Old Testament to you) is the guidebook for us to follow.