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To: archy
He drew his .40-caliber duty weapon and removed the magazine, according to the police report. Then he pulled back the slide and asked someone in the audience to look inside the gun and confirm it wasn't loaded, the report said.

Witnesses said the gun was pointed at the floor and when he released the slide, one shot fired into the top of his left thigh.

Something here does NOT make sense.

If he did both (remove the mag. & pull back the slide) why was there still a round in the gun?

8 posted on 04/30/2004 10:00:40 AM PDT by OXENinFLA (To me, it is a never ending marvel what our soldiers can do. ----------- PATTON)
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To: OXENinFLA
If he did both (remove the mag. & pull back the slide) why was there still a round in the gun?

Maybe the moron didn't pull the slide back far enough and with suffcient force to eject the round. He was more interested in 'show & tell" then a clear weapon.

46 posted on 04/30/2004 10:21:18 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Mr. Ed and Wilbur's wife had a kid named John..)
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To: OXENinFLA
He must have had a round "in the pipe" (ie in the chamber). Simply remvoing the magazine does not necessarly mean the weapon is completely unloaded.

The guy broke Rule #1: A gun should be considered to always be loaded.

55 posted on 04/30/2004 10:27:40 AM PDT by The Toad
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To: OXENinFLA
Broken extractor?
70 posted on 04/30/2004 10:41:33 AM PDT by FRMAG
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To: OXENinFLA
"If he did both (remove the mag. & pull back the slide) why was there still a round in the gun?"

It's because those guns are evil. They're just plain evil.

Oh, one other thing. Some people are just plain stupid.

135 posted on 04/30/2004 12:26:31 PM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: OXENinFLA
Something here does NOT make sense.

I agree. Its likely the article was not correct. IF it happened as the article said, then the handgun was defective. I'm wondering whether it was a Glock 22/23, a Sig 226/8/9, or a Sig Pro 2340 (or whatever the number is). I think it is one of those models.

HOWEVER, please not that in some handguns (specifically the H&K USP) the slide will release and chamber the round if the magazine is inserted with some force. Of course, this is different, but there are quirks will all handguns, and any hg owner MUST become intimately familiar with their weapon.

Repeat after me: KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO FIRE. If you don't think you can do that, practice until you can.

145 posted on 04/30/2004 12:45:28 PM PDT by 1L
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To: OXENinFLA
If he did both (remove the mag. & pull back the slide) why was there still a round in the gun?

He removed the mag and pulled back the slide however the extractor failed to grab and remove the live round still in the chamber.

I witnessed the exact same thing happen to a friend of mine with a Remington 870. Put a nice hole through a basement wall and my ears are still ringing just thinking about it.

As a range office I actually incorporated this type of failure into my training program. “Using inert ammo”, I would load up an 870 in front of the class but would not close the breach all the way so the extractor would not engage the round in the chamber. I would then slowly go through the standard unloading procedures step by step in front of the students. With the breach still open I would ask the class if the weapon was now safe and they would all nod in agreement.

I would then fully close the breach and rack out the round that has been sitting in the chamber the whole time. To the stunned and dismayed students I would then explain how this kind of failure occurs.

158 posted on 04/30/2004 1:48:05 PM PDT by usurper
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To: OXENinFLA; Squantos; Travis McGee; Billthedrill
Better put Arlen Spector on this to get to the bottom of it. Maybe he can connect it to the Kennedy assassination single bullet.
201 posted on 04/30/2004 7:43:57 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Pat Tillman took a bullet for me and mine. RIP Ranger Tillman.)
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