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SENATE COVERAGE -- (MAY '04)
http://www.senate.gov/ ^ | 5-3-04 | US SENATE and others

Posted on 05/03/2004 4:45:39 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

Since "Free Republic is an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America.", I and others think it's a good idea to centralize what the goes on in the Senate (or House if it gets hot).

So if you see something happening on the Senate/House floor and you don't want to start a new thread to ask if anyone else just heard what you heard, you can leave a short note on who said what and about what and I'll try and find it the next day in THE RECORD. Or if you see a thread that pertains to the Senate, House, or pretty much any GOV'T agency please link your thread here.

If you have any suggestions for this thread please feel free to let me know.


Here's a few helpful links.

C-SPAN what a great thing. Where you can watch or listen live to most Government happenings.

C-SPAN 1 carries the HOUSE.

C-SPAN 2 carries the SENATE.

C-SPAN 3 (most places web only) carries a variety of committee meetings live or other past programming.

OR FEDNET has online feed also.

A great thing about our Government is they make it really easy for the public to research what the Politicians are doing and saying (on the floor anyway).

THOMAS where you can see a RECORD of what Congress is doing each day. You can also search/read a verbatim text of what each Congressmen/women or Senator has said on the floor or submitted 'for the record.' [This is where the real juicy stuff can be found.]

Also found at Thomas are Monthly Calendars for the Majority and Minority

Roll Call Votes can be found here.


OTHER LINKS
THE WHITE HOUSE

THE WAR DEPARTMENT (aka The Dept. of Defense)

LIVE DoD Briefings


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Florida
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To: OXENinFLA
How's Dashole's relection campaign going?
281 posted on 05/13/2004 6:54:36 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: OXENinFLA
I've heard the Dems say that before ... I think I remember Corzine saying it on FNC a while ago
282 posted on 05/13/2004 6:57:27 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: OXENinFLA
I had mentaly tuned him out reading this:

Bush’s Youthquake - September 11 is this generation’s Vietnam. ("New NeoCons")

283 posted on 05/13/2004 6:58:25 AM PDT by StriperSniper (Welcome home Thomas Hamill !!!)
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To: Mo1
Not good I hope

Daschle Campaign Admits to Election Law Violation

284 posted on 05/13/2004 7:01:52 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Mo1; OXENinFLA
Where just five minutes before, dashole was bemoaning "the privileged few", then he wants "targeted tax-cuts" to go to his "privileged few".
285 posted on 05/13/2004 7:03:37 AM PDT by StriperSniper (Welcome home Thomas Hamill !!!)
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To: OXENinFLA
Lisa Murkowski(R-AK) up in front of 'Weather Girl' wall.
286 posted on 05/13/2004 7:05:16 AM PDT by StriperSniper (Welcome home Thomas Hamill !!!)
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To: StriperSniper; Mo1
Boxer is such a TWIT.


OMG she just said they "can't even get Unemployment compensation" because they "don't have enough votes".........And who's fault is that!?!?!
287 posted on 05/13/2004 7:30:04 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: StriperSniper; Mo1
Boxer up debasing the Military.
288 posted on 05/13/2004 7:35:33 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
Can we DROP the "Carrier Landing" already!!!!!!
289 posted on 05/13/2004 7:38:53 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
May 12, 2004 Senate

INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES EDUCATION IMPROVEMENT ACT OF 2003

Mrs. CLINTON. Mr. President, I rise in support of my amendment to the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act that is being considered today. Before I get into the amendment, I thank the chairman and the ranking member of the committee, Senators GREGG and Kennedy, for all their hard work in bringing this bill to the floor. It has been a long and, at times, I know a tedious process.

The issues inherent in this bill are complicated, and I respect the strong effort of both Senators GREGG and KENNEDY to work together in a bipartisan fashion to move the process forward. I also thank their two key staff members, Connie Garner for Senator Kennedy and Annie White for Senator Gregg, because they have worked extraordinarily hard and diligently to ensure that this legislation, which affects millions of children with disabilities, will be reauthorized and will improve the lives of so many of these children and their families.

I also thank Senators GREGG and KENNEDY for being supportive of this amendment.

My amendment is very simple and straightforward but I think very important. It proposes to make the Department of Education a key partner in the development and execution of the National Children's Study.

The National Children's Study will be the most important study of children with disabilities ever undertaken. It will provide a comprehensive examination of the effects of environmental influences, as well as many other factors affecting growth and development, from birth until age 21. The overarching goal of this study is to give us information to enable us to improve the health and well-being of our children and, in particular, what more can be done to prevent, treat, ameliorate, and cure disabilities.

The National Children's Study was authorized by the Children's Health Act of 2000. All of the key Federal departments with jurisdiction over children's health and welfare, including

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the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the Environmental Protection Agency, are sponsors and partners in the completion of this critical study.

It is absolutely essential that these agencies work together, but missing from the list is the Department of Education. Despite the fact that children in our country spend 6 to 8 hours or more in school, the Department of Education is not one of the agencies explicitly included as a participant in the national children's study.

I believe this study has the potential to provide significant value, but it will be missing a critical source of information if the Department of Education is not a full partner.....................................

290 posted on 05/13/2004 7:45:10 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Mo1; StriperSniper
What bill is Reid trying to push?

Some bill on Medals for Iraq/Afghanistan Soldiers.
291 posted on 05/13/2004 11:25:59 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: StriperSniper; Mo1; Peach; Howlin; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
ZELL MILLER ALERT!!!!!!!
292 posted on 05/13/2004 11:34:42 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: StriperSniper; Mo1; Peach; Quilla

WJ is pretty good so far today...........C-span1


293 posted on 05/14/2004 4:06:53 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
Senator Zell Miller: Finger-pointing, Apologies Over Prisoner Treatment Only Boost Enemy
294 posted on 05/14/2004 6:12:11 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

[My comments in []]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,119902,00.html

NEW YORK, N.Y. — A full transcript of John Kerry's exclusive interview with Fox News Channel's "Hannity and Colmes" on May 13, 2004:

ALAN COLMES, HOST: Senator, welcome.

SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Glad to be here. Thank you.

COLMES: Are you surprised to be the nominee apparent?

KERRY: Pleasantly pleased, but I'm not surprised because I ran for president with the intention of winning, and I knew I could. So I'm happy to be here. ["ran"? Uh, isn't he running? --"could"????? Like the election has happened already???]

COLMES: What are the one or two issues this election revolves around?

KERRY: Leadership, trust.[OK that's 2......he could stop there.] I believe that there is a more honest brand of leadership to offer America that will put people back to work,[3] that can reduce our deficit,[4] balance the budget,[5] create better jobs for Americans[6], provide lower cost, affordable, accessible health care to Americans[7], clearly, fix our schools[8] and do a better job of living up to the promise of No Child Left Behind, and frankly, wage a far more thoughtful and capable war on terror[9] that actually makes America safer and stronger. [Alan's head must be spinning after that.]

I think this administration has misled America, broken its promises and regrettably, not made the world safer. And I will change that.[HOW?????? Also I want PROOF of these allegations, Kerry needs to be called out on these accusations.]

COLMES: I -- why should Americans believe the world will be safer, will be more protected if John Kerry's president?

KERRY: I ask -- I ask people to simply measure my 35 years of experience and the battles that I've fought in an effort to try to raise America's safety standard and -- and to promote our interests in the world, versus what the Bush administration has done. [Some examples would be nice, not just rhetoric....."battles that I've fought in" I know he wanted to say Vietnam here.]

I certainly admire the president for standing up and deciding that we needed to take on terror.[Notice he doesn't call it a WAR on terror.] We all believe that. And I thought he gave a great speech to Congress and the country immediately afterward.

But I think [and that's the problem] the president has led in a sort of steadily wrong direction, that he's been stubborn in his leadership, not recognizing what you need to do to bring other countries to the table, not recognizing what you need to do to restore America's relationship with allies and friends so that they, too, are sharing the risks of this war on terror.

We shouldn't be alone.[WE ARE NOT ALONE!!] The United States isn't alone in having an interest in beating back terror. ["beating back"? How about defeating terror?] The huge question is why, if other countries have an interest in not having a failed Iraq -- Middle Eastern countries, European countries -- why are they not at the table?

The reason is this administration has had an arrogant policy that has pushed people aside, that has not invited them to share in the reconstruction, that has not permitted them to share in the decision-making, and so they stand back. And that is not in the interest of our troops. It's not for the interests of our nation. [Sounds like Kerry wants any country to be able to rape Iraq and we should just step aside.] ["share in the decision-making"...is he F'n nuts???? maybe he wants FRANCE & RUSSIA to be in charge of Iraq's Ministry of oil?? Or maybe he wants our troops to take orders from the UN? ]

COLMES: What makes you think that, all of a sudden, if there's a John Kerry presidency France and Russia suddenly will decide they want to participate? [Good question.]

KERRY: They won't suddenly decide it, Alan. That's not what's going to happen. But statesmanship and leadership are the art of persuading people who might otherwise have reservations of their interests.[This is Kerry's way of saying he'd grovel and bow to other countries.]

Europe -- I'm sure you would agree with me, Europe has an interest in not having a failed Iraq at its doorstep. The Arab countries certainly have the primary interest in not having a failed Iraq, a theocracy, a Shia state or any other number of variations. A vacuum with an al Qaeda terrorist launching pad. They all have an interest in not having that happen.

So the huge issue is why are they not more involved in helping to make something change?[Because they're AGAINST US an want us to FAIL!!] The reason is this administration has proceeded so unilaterally and so arrogantly, without -- without a sense that they could, in fact, participate in a legitimate decision making way.

The president's had any number of opportunities to bring people to the table. First when we went to the U.N. originally, and then he rushed to war without a plan to win the peace. He rushed to war so fast that our troops have told stories of not even having the equipment they needed, not having the Humvees with armor, not having the body armor. [Folks this was the looooooooooooogest "rush to war" I've read about in history.]

And then, they didn't even secure a nuclear plant against looting. [I thought Saddam didn't have NUKES??] They didn't even secure the foreign office against looting. They didn't even secure Baghdad against looting. And it gave power to people to be able to believe that they could get away with some of the things they're doing today.

I think this administration, from the get-go, underestimated, miscalculated and has put American troops at greater risk than they need...[John Kerry----The Thesaurus with only failure in mind]

COLMES: Do we ignore -- we go to the U.N. Do we ignore the oil-for-food scandal?

KERRY: I'm not talking about...

COLMES: We're talking about asking them to help us.

KERRY: I'm not talking about primarily going to the U.N. I laid out in Fulton, Missouri, a very specific set of steps which require presidential leadership.

Step No. 1 is for the president to sit down with, talk to, in a very personal way, the leaders of these other countries, to help persuade them, No. 1, that he's prepared to share decision-making and reconstruction,[WITH THE US TAXPAYERS MONEY?!?!? If we're spending the money WE say how and where it's spent.] and No. 2, persuade them of their interests in making certain that, even though the United States may have made some mistakes, they all share an interest in the outcome.

And once you have that shared interest, and shared responsibility and decision making, then you can go to the U.N. or to NATO, put together a group of international players who are prepared to recognize our global responsibility, get the U.N. to pass a resolution authorizing what we're doing, so that it has the international stamp of approval. And the U.N. is waiting to do this. Kofi Annan and the U.N. are prepared to do it. And then you can proceed, with international authority, for the transformation of the government.




[Two things, Kerry must not have seen UNSCR 1511. http://www.un.org/Docs/sc/unsc_resolutions03.html

And (this is long but come to the heart of the NATO question)

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2004/tr20040406-secdef0581.html

Q Has the United States discussed with NATO the possibility of NATO getting involved officially in Iraq, of NATO taking responsibility for actions there as opposed to supporting in Iraq?

SEC.-GEN. DE HOOP SCHEFFER: Here, of course, it's important, very important, to watch the political developments. I mean, Lakhdar Brahimi is at the moment in Iraq, preparing for what I hope will be a very important U.N. role after the transfer of sovereignty on the 1st of July -- 30th of June. That's point number one.

Point number two which is important in the discussion is clearly a new Security Council resolution mandating specifically an international stabilization force in the longer term in Iraq. It will, of course, be important what the U.N., taking on a certain role -- an important role, I hope, the crucial role -- will ask and will say. I have, of course, I'll be in touch with the U.N., with the secretary-general, with Mr. Brahimi.

As I said, 17 out of the 26 NATO nations have their forces on the ground and will have the transfer of sovereignty on the 30th of June, 1st of July. After that date, we'll have a sovereign Iraqi government. Then it is, of course, up to that Iraqi government, let's say, to decide what that government wants, because then we have a, clearly, cut-off between what is the situation now in the Iraq and what will be the situation after the 1st of July. And if that will come to a discussion in the NATO alliance, it is not easy to say, too hard to say at the moment, but I repeat, 17 out of 26 NATO nations are on the ground in Iraq, although it's not a NATO operation as such.]




It's the only way I know to more rapidly transfer legitimacy, to more rapidly reduce the cost to Americans, both in terms of our troops and their risks, and the money that we are paying.

If you're happy paying $200 billion in one year -- any American listening to this thinks this is a good idea, to be spending $200 billion over there, and to have our troops going through what they're doing every day, you go vote for George Bush. I don't think... [Notice there was NOOOOO mention of the Oil-for-food scandal in his answer. so I guess the actual answer to Alan's question--"Do we ignore the oil-for-food scandal?" is YES John Kerry did just that!!]

COLMES: You're going to support $25 billion of emergency spending. Well, like the $87 billion in the past, will you wait to see how that's going to be funded before you put your final stamp on ...[Is it just me or did Alan just phrase this to make it look like Kerry voted FOR the $87Bil?]

KERRY: I will obviously. Nobody's going to -- if this money is legitimately urgent for the troops, nobody's going to leave the troops without the things that we need right now. But I want to see exactly what the plan is, and I want to see exactly where the money is going, and how much is, in reality, needed.

But I'm obviously supportive of the troops, as are every other American. [So "obviously supportive of the troops" that he vote NO for the last funding supplemental.]

COLMES: What do you think when you see that tape that they keep playing, "I was for the $87 billion before I voted against it." [Actually Alan it was "I voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it."]

KERRY: I think it's Republican games of an administration that can't run on its own record. [NO, IT IS A QUOTE FROM YOU SENATOR!!!!] This is unprecedented in American history, that a sitting president, an incumbent, is spending $70 million in destructive, negative, misleading, distorting [Kerry-The Thesaurus strikes again.] advertising to try to undo the candidacy of a person in another party not yet even nominated. Unprecedented, Alan.[Uh, he's *itching about GWB running ads against him when he doesn't have the nomination, but Kerry can run ads against GWB when he doesn't have the nomination, I'm confused.]

But the truth is, they can't go out to America and talk about the jobs they've created, because they haven't created them.[YES, He did and can!] They're 2.2 million jobs negative. Worst jobs record since Herbert Hoover was president.

They can't go out and talk to America about having given Americans health care, because they've lost -- four million more Americans have lost their health care under George Bush. [Uh, didn't GWB just sign the largest medical entitlement in history?]

He can't go out and talk about fixing our schools, because he's $26 billion shy of his own promise to fund No Child Left Behind. [Really? http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/05/20040511-5.html ]

He can't go out and talk to people about making the environment better, because he's undoing the Clean Air Act, undoing the Clean Water Act, going backwards on forest policy. [ http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/environment/ ]

So instead of offering America a positive vision, they decide just to attack John Kerry ...[LOL!! and JF'nK has SUCH a positive message! Actually GWB IS offering a "positive vision" for this country's future.]

COLMES: I want to get into some of those key issues.

KERRY: ... so that he's not winning. I think Americans are going to see through it, and I'm quite confident that I have a vision for the country that addresses our concerns and needs.[Well, WHAT IS IT?????] And he doesn't.

COLMES: Before we get into some of those key issues, when you see -- back to Iraq for a moment. When you see pictures from the Abu Ghraib prison and you see -- and I don't know if you saw the beheading of Nick Berg in...

KERRY: I mean, I saw the shortened version.

COLMES: What image do you think is more damaging? Which disturbs you more?

KERRY: I think both of them are, no question. Obviously, as an American, as a human being, I'm outraged, incensed at what they did to Nicholas Berg. There's no excuse for it. I don't care what happened in those prisons. An act of terror is an act of terror. [WHAT!?!?!?! Now we committed "act of Terror" in Abu Ghraib?]

And it shows the emptiness of their -- absence of values. It shows that these are thugs, killers, terrorists, and they deserve everything we can throw at them. And we will.

But that doesn't change the impact of what has happened in that prison through our own efforts, which have put American troops at greater risk, put Americans at greater risk, tarnished all of us and, I think, been a great disservice to the effort that we have been engaged in over there.

I will fight a more effective war on terror, because I would never have thrown out of the door or window the obligations of the Geneva Conventions. Why? Because I know, as a former combatant,[Really when?] that, had I been captured, I would have wanted our moral high ground with respect to those Geneva Conventions to be in place. [Remember, be KIND to the people that want to KILL us!!]

And I think what we do is, by not being really -- by being selective and saying they apply here, don't apply there and so forth, we invite others to be equally as selective and it puts American troops in greater danger. [Because the terrorist follow the Geneva Convention.???]

I also think, when you look at what Israel has done for years, where they've faced terror for far longer than we have, that they don't engage in that type of activity. And they specifically decided not to, because they want to keep the moral high ground. And they know it doesn't serve them in the end. [WTF????]

I think that this administration has made an egregious error in the laxity of a command control. And I am convinced this didn't happen just because six or seven people decided to make it happen in a prison. It happened as a matter of what was going on in terms of interrogation and the laxity of command up and down. [Thanks to BC.]

COLMES: Today, Donald Rumsfeld went on a surprise trip to Iraq. Do you think that is the right thing to do, or do you think this is just for show?

KERRY: Well, I'm glad that the secretary of defense went there. I think it's always important and good for a secretary to visit with the troops. The troop morale needs, I think, that kind of visit, and I'm glad he went.[YEAH, Riiiight.]

But I don't think it changes the dynamics of what America still needs to do to get to the bottom of this, and -- and I don't think it camouflages what has to be done.

COLMES: You spoke with Nick Berg's father, Michael Berg. How's he doing?

KERRY: Well, as you can imagine, I mean, this is a -- I mean, as a parent, if I lost one of my children that way, visibly, learning about it the way he did, I -- I mean, I'd personally give up whatever I'm doing and I'd spend the rest of my life trying to bring those people to justice.

I -- I think he's as pained as he can be. And -- and he feels let down by -- he feels let down by those who should have been protecting his son. ["who should have been protecting his son" And that would be?????????]

But I think the rest of the conversation is really -- has to be honored as private and I don't think it's appropriate...

COLMES: How do you feel about the fact that there are those veterans who have come out against you? It's got to hurt you personally.

KERRY: No, don't worry about it. Listen, 1971 I made a decision -- actually, in 1969 I made the decision that the war is to be opposed. And when I came back, I found my way of opposing it. And I'm proud of it. I'm proud that I stood up to Richard Nixon. I'm proud that I -- and in fact, I think I was right. And history has judged me to be right.[And that has WHAT to do w/ the question?]

If you read Neil Sheehan's "A Bright Shining Lie," if you read Robert McNamara's book, where he admits he knew it was a mistake, if you listen to other who've thought about it retrospectively, I think I stood up and I saved lives.

And I'm sorry that some people want to go back and redebate the war.[JAW DROP!] Dick Cheney and George Bush want to have a debate about the war in Vietnam, I'll meet them anywhere in the country and we can talk about what they were doing, and we'll talk about what I was doing. And I'm happy to do that.

COLMES: One of the issues that you have talked about that I know resonates, because I've talked about it, but I've not heard a lot of Republicans talk about it, is concurrent receipt. The idea that if you have a disability, that it will come out of your pension.

KERRY: Yes.

COLMES: Unlike any other civil servant.

KERRY: I think it's wrong. I think it's dead wrong. I think this administration is high on rhetoric, big on wrapping themselves in the American flag and patriotism, and short on delivering the patriot response to those who have served their country.

The V.A. budget has been cut across our country. Tens of thousands of veterans waiting, some of them, months to be able to see a doctor for the first time, just to get prescription drugs signed off on. Ninety thousand veterans waiting to get access to the V.A. Four hundred, 500,000 denied access to the V.A. because they're in a category where they say the V.A. doesn't have the money.

Well, how can the V.A. not have the money for those who served their country, but we have money for tax cuts, over $1 trillion for the wealthiest people in our nation. That's George Bush's priority. That's not my priority. My priority is to keep faith with the people who wore the uniform of our country. And I think that is the first definition of patriotism.

And I'm not going to sit around and watch, you know, while disabled people have their pensions that they earned deducted by the money that they got because they suffered a disability. And they have to pay, effectively, for their own disability. I think it's a betrayal. [ http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/veterans/ ]

COLMES: Donald Rumsfeld has recommended that President Bush veto the defense appropriations bill if it contains the concurrent receipt provision and indeed changes the way we go about concurrent receipt. It would be vetoed.

KERRY: Well, that's their priorities. Those aren't my priorities.

COLMES: Can one percent -- you're talking about the top one percent or so -- of income earners who would be taxed more, not 99 percent -- and I sit here, you know, and night after night I hear them say, misrepresenting your record, "He wants to raise taxes to the American people. He wants to raise taxes for those who make the most amount of money."

But can that one percent, taxes on those, pay for the things you want to do? Will that be enough?

KERRY: It can pay -- it can pay for a lot of them, not all of them, no.[BAM!!!! KERRY WILL RAISE YOUR TAXES!!] And that's not the only place that I look for the additional revenue.[YES FOLKS Kerry thinks of the taxes YOU pay as "revenue" for HIM to use as he sees fit.] But unlike this administration, I've been absolutely direct and honest with the American people in showing where I would get the money to do what I want to do and how we're going to cut the deficit in half over four years. [Really????? where can I find that?]

Now, I have credibility on this, because in 1985, I was one of the first three Democrats to fight for a balanced budget in the Congress. In 1993, I was one of the votes that decided we would have a deficit reduction act. In '97, I voted for the compromise. [This was the bill that GORE had to cast the deciding vote.]

We balanced the budget. We paid down the debt. We did this. And I am showing exactly how we can do it again, which George Bush does not show. He has $6 trillion of unfounded programs and initiatives, and he's taking us into the largest deficits in American history. [Because this country can't go into deficit if we're in a WAR!!]

There's nothing conservative about this administration. I mean, Fox ought to stand up and say, "What's going on here?" Because there's nothing conservative about this administration. [Ugggggggg]

COLMES: Well, I'm on Fox, and I've been saying that every night. [ Well, you're bother wrong.]

KERRY: But this is radical, to be having an economic policy that drives our deficits as far as this. And the fact is that I have a stronger economic plan for America, which is why people like Warren Buffet and others are supporting what I'm doing. Because they understand it will be stronger for the economy, and people will make more money in the long run.

I also shut loopholes, Alan. We are currently asking American workers to subsidize the loss of their own job. Think about that. You're a company, and you leave Detroit, Michigan, or you leave, you know, Toledo, Ohio, and you go to another country, American workers in Toledo and Detroit are actually subsidizing the loss of their own jobs to that other country, to the tune of about $12 billion a year or more. I'm going to end that. [How?? By becoming an isolationist??]

Now I know we're going to compete abroad. I know we have jobs that are going to go overseas. I understand that. I'm realistic.[BUT YOU JUST SAID YOU'D "END THAT"!!!] But I'm not going to ask the American worker to actually favor, in the tax code, that decision to go overseas. I want to favor the jobs that stay here, the companies that stay here.

COLMES: How much can one man, a president, do concerning jobs?

KERRY: Well, you can do a great deal as president, because you set the framework in the trade policy, the framework in the tax policy and the framework in terms of our commitment in the budget, to science, to technology, to investment, so you can create a confidence in America that affects Wall Street. It affects venture capital, and it encourages...[And what happens when the Congress holds up let's say THE ENERGY BILL!!]

COLMES: Some jobs are coming back. They are claiming jobs are on the rise...

KERRY: Yes, but look at the jobs that are on the rise. Look, first of all, you don't measure a presidency by four months. Right now, only two. But when we get to November, it will be five or so. You don't measure it by that.[HUH??? What did he just say???]

On the four years of this presidency, President George Bush is the first president since Herbert Hoover who will have lost jobs during his presidency. That's the bottom line. [In Kerry's mind 9-11 DIDN'T HAPPEN!]

And the bottom line is also that the American worker, the average wage earner of America, is losing money on their income every year now. Under George Bush, American workers have lost $1,600 on average of income. Under Bill Clinton, they gained $7,100 of income.

Under George Bush, there are four million more Americans who don't have health care today.[That's because we're not a SOCIALISTIC country!] Under George Bush, you have tuitions that have gone up 28 percent in three years, gasoline prices hitting record highs.[Energy Bill?] Health care prices have gone up 50 percent.[TORT REFORM!] Wage earners' money has gone down.

That's not a great equation for our country, my friend. And I intend to change that. And the way you change it is by being fair in your tax code and by creating jobs that create more money.[HOW!!!!!!!!????????????]

The jobs that George Bush are creating today are paying on average $9,000, $15,000 less than the jobs he's losing abroad. I don't think that's a very good future, and I think we can do better.

COLMES: When Bill Clinton was running, we heard, "It's the economy, stupid." When George Bush was running, it was "I'm going to bring honor and dignity back to the White House."

How do you define in such a nugget a John Kerry presidency?

KERRY: I'm going to bring truth and responsibility back to the White House, and I'm going to bring influence and respect in the world back to America.

COLMES: Bill Sammon of the "Washington Times" saying that -- he interviewed the president, has got a book out. He said Karl Rove's strategy is to define you as a condescending elitist who's trying to capitalize on your Vietnam experience, who likes taxes, weak on defense and on the wrong side of the culture wars. That is how they are defining you.

How do you break through that?

KERRY: I -- first of all, let me just say about that, I think that's pathetic.[BUT 100% TRUE!!] I think it's unbelievable that the Karl Rove crowd wants to just reduce a presidential race to that kind of distortion. And I don't think Americans are going to stand for it.

You know, I'm a former law enforcement officer [Funny way to say lawyer.] who's put people in prison for the rest of their life. I led the fight to put 100,000 cops on the streets of America. I have pushed for, voted for and fought for deficit reduction and balanced budgets. I voted for welfare reform to change the culture of welfare in America. I've helped push for education reform in America and change it.

I'm a hunter and a fisherman. I've been a hunter since I was 12 years old. [But voted FOR the renewal of the AWB]

I'm not going to get pushed around by these people on subjects about which all they can see is exploitation and the lowest common denominator of American politics. The people I know in America want serious solutions to real problems. [Like what? What kind of WAX you have to tell your scoffer to wax your SUV with?]

This administration has had four years to provide solutions to any number of problems. They've done nothing about health care nationally, fundamentally. This prescription drug bill hurts seniors and helps the drug companies.[But "they've done nothing" ???]

Beyond that, they've broken the promise of education. They've broken the promise on the environment. They've lost jobs nationally. They have a huge deficit. They've broken the promise of Social Security not digging into it.[Prove it.]

I mean, you go down the trail of broken promises, this is the biggest say one thing, do another crowd in history. [HUH?]

Now, George Bush doesn't have a record to run on.[So he hasn't been in the WH since JAN-01? Silly me.] He has a record to run away from. So Karl Rove has decided the only way he can win is to try to attack John Kerry. I think the American people want something better.[Than you??? YES] I think they're looking for something more, and I'm going to restore truth and responsibility to the White House. And I'm going to fight a more effective war on terror that actually makes America safer.

COLMES: They've had a terrible few months. We've had these horrible images coming out of Iraq. We've had report after report showing no WMD's,[Rally the ones I've read say they HAVE.] not that we may not find them some day. His approval rating -- the president's, that is -- is at the lowest ever.

Should you be breaking through a little more significantly in the polls at this point?

KERRY: Polls are not...

COLMES: Or do you not pay attention to that stuff at all?

KERRY: But I didn't pay attention to it when everybody said I was 30 points down, if you recall. And I won.

Now, as of today's poll, I saw I'm five points up over the president, in the Pew poll, as of today.[Didn't pay attention when he was 30 points down, but does when he's 5 points ahead.]

I don't place a lot of stock in the polls, as I've said to you. But I'll tell you this, that as the next five and a half months unfolds, Americans are going to hear a positive vision from me about how we can fix our country, how we reduce the deficit, how we provide health care that's affordable and accessible to all Americans, how we can make our streets safer, put cops back on the streets rather than cut them, the way this administration is.

This administration has made life miserable for people trying to do homeland security. Firefighters and firehouses across America are understaffed. Chemical plants and nuclear plants are yet to be strengthened and properly guarded with plans.[LOOSE LIPS] I think we can do a better job of defending America.

And I think if all they can do is attack me, have at it. They spent $70 million in seven weeks in the most unprecedented attack in American political history.[Didn't we hear this already?] Began at the earliest moment in American political history by an incumbent president for the first time in American history against a person not yet even nominated by the party. It is unprecedented.[So does even KERRY think he might not get the nomination??]

And yet today, we're ahead in the polls. I think we're doing just fine. And I intend to continue to do just fine.

COLMES: When will you announce your vice president choice? Before the convention?

KERRY: Right before the convention.

COLMES: Do you know who it is yet?

KERRY: Before the convention.

COLMES: You might know something you're not telling us?

KERRY: Before the convention.

COLMES: All right. What are the criteria for a vice president?

KERRY: I'm not going to go into the public process of that. When I choose and make that announcement publicly, I'll obviously describe what I have found and what I think the nation needs. But I'm going to keep this as personal and as private a process as I can. [Because the public doesn't need to know??]

COLMES: You know that Bill Cohen served in the Clinton administration, a Republican. Norm Mineta was kept on in this administration. Would you keep anybody from the Clinton cabinet?

KERRY: From the Clinton?

COLMES: I mean, excuse me. From the Bush 43 administration?

KERRY: I don't think you have to keep people in order to be bipartisan, but I can guarantee you this. I will reach across the aisle. I will look for Republicans, independents, people of quality to serve in my administration in whatever ability possible. And I think we need more than tokenism in bipartisanship.[100% republican purge]

President Bush said he was a uniter. The one entity he's united in America is the Democratic Party. The country itself is more divided than ever.

And I have never, in all the years I've been in the United States Senate seen a Congress as dysfunctional, as unproductive, as partisan and as divided as this one is. And I think it is partly because of the absence of presidential leadership to actually bring people together to find the common ground.[NO, IT'S BECAUSE OF THE OBSTRUCTIONIST LIBERAL DEMOCRATS!!]

I know how to do that. I've done it, and I'm going to do it as president.

COLMES: Senator, thank you very much. I appreciate your time today.

KERRY: Glad to be with you. Thank you very much.

COLMES: Thank you.


295 posted on 05/14/2004 10:49:36 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: StriperSniper; Mo1; Peach; Howlin; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
KERRY - COLMES and my Comments intertwined.

Feel free to add to it.

296 posted on 05/14/2004 11:00:06 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

Good job, Oxen!


297 posted on 05/14/2004 11:06:48 AM PDT by Chieftain (To all who serve and support those who serve - thank you!)
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To: Chieftain

http://www.foxnews.com/access/video.html


You can watch it here if you missed it.


298 posted on 05/14/2004 11:24:27 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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http://forum.johnkerry.com/index.php?showtopic=30643

Funny thing about being a Democrat..., compared to a Republican

DefeatBush Posted: May 16 2004, 12:42 PM

I've just been reading up and down the various threads---mostly a wide variety of "attacks" on the Bush Administration.

And it occurred to me how different it is to be a Democrat: almost none of the viewpoints and generally scathing tone expressed in these threads could ever be part of of the actual rhetoric of a Democratic campaign-- either by surrogates or by the candidate himself. They are simply too "extreme" and "partisan-sounding" and would alienate moderate voters.

All these harsh anti- Bush Adminstration viewpoints must be kept "unofficial"; they must NOT be openly embraced by the Democratic campaign (for good reasons); they must be kept in the whispering rooms, compartmentalized and dis-integrated in the vast internet labyrinth.

On the other hand, almost anything a hard-core Bush Administration supporter expresses personally is ALSO expressed openly by some aspect of the Bush campaign.

I'm making no political judgments about this---I'm just making an observatin and thinking about what it means *psychologically* for both sides.


Sometimes it's shocking what they actualy will say.

299 posted on 05/16/2004 1:49:01 PM PDT by OXENinFLA ("I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick a**, and I'm all out of bubblegum".)
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07:45 am est

LIVE
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U.S. Policy in Iraq
C-SPAN, Washington Journal

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300 posted on 05/17/2004 4:29:47 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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