Police kill dog while stopping at wrong house on alarm call

Milwaukee Sentinel Journal ^ | April 30, 2004 | REID J. EPSTEIN

[wingster]

Police these days are dumber than a bag of rocks!

Hope you never have to rely on them!

[Don Joe]

Don't you think the homeowner, should have had a collar on the dog to try to control him. I don't like big dogs of that make up, running and jumping on me.

Then stay out of his yard.

Stay out of my yard too, BTW. My dog doesn't have a line on him, although we do have an "underground fence". But, since you wouldn't know that just by looking at the dog, you might assume he's "running loose", and take it as license to shoot him if you don't like the way he looks at you.

That would not be good, for a variety of reasons.

It seems that there's no shortage of people who are glad to tell others how to live their own lives on their own property.

[Don Joe]

The fact that three shots were fired suggests that the dog wasn't cowering in the corner.

How so?

What it suggests to me is that the trespasser was operating under the "fire and keep firing until he drops" school of thought that's pounded into their heads under the modern paramilitary training regimes.

Three shots can be rapid-fired in well under a second. The modern paramilitary operative does not carefully squeeze off one round and then wait to see how the target reacts. He fires, and keeps firing, "until the threat is neutralized."

If anything is surprising, it's that only three shots were fired. What I suspect is that by the second round, the shooter had that "oh, sh!t" moment -- realizing what was really going on -- but wasn't able to stop his reflexive firing until one more round had been fired.

[Don Joe]

A significant number of cops fall into that bloodlust category. Not all. Not most. But a significant number. Time to weed them out. These stories are all too common.

Yup. And I know from personal experience (I socialized with quite a few cops when I had a business that handled some of their trade) that the decent cops detest those bastards with a passion.

[cinFLA]

BRINGS his dog along on the job?

Dope dealers.

[cinFLA]

"My dog ran up from behind me toward the cop because he's a curious dog,"

How come nobody is talking about how this is only his side of the story.

You can't outrun one of these dogs!

[wingster]

Yeah, well unfortunately the ranks of the morons, devoid of common sense, and corrupt are outgrowing the handful of truly decent ones left. I hear it from my own few cop buds all the time. There's no question in my mind that you don't want the police in your business from either end if you can at all help it.

Most of them are not too bright. They hire them that way for a reason. It used to not be so, but these days it's definitely the case.

[cinFLA]

People that let their dogs attack visitors at the door are either low class or drug dealers or both.

[cinFLA]

What I suspect is that by the second round, the shooter had that "oh, sh!t" moment -- realizing what was really going on -- but wasn't able to stop his reflexive firing until one more round had been fired.

Maybe he had the 'oh-sh!t' feeling as his second shot missed the attacking dog.

[cinFLA]

"As usual, Bongo, 9, was without a leash because he didn't run off and never harmed anyone, "

I think the same was said at that trial a couple of years ago where the dog killed a woman.

[Don Joe]

There's no question in my mind that you don't want the police in your business from either end if you can at all help it.

I guess I was lucky. I was in a small town, and I helped them out, and they helped me out. (One time, the dog catcher -- a certifiable lunatic who ended up in the slammer after he flipped out and started shooting at cars driving past his house -- snatched my dog, and refused to release it. He had a hard on for me, for some reason I could not fathom. It took about thirty seconds of my explaining this to an off-duty friend, before a series of phone calls were made, and that SOB -- sputtering mad with rage -- was ordered to release my dog to us. It worked both ways. Another time, when there were campus riots, and they had a booking room overflowing with drunken "future leaders" -- and their ID camera busted -- I raced down in the middle of the night to fix it for them.)

[Don Joe]

People that let their dogs attack visitors at the door are either low class or drug dealers or both.

And what's your take on people who twist the truth to make a point?

The dog did not attack anyone.

[Don Joe]

Maybe he had the 'oh-sh!t' feeling as his second shot missed the attacking dog.

There were two dogs at that address???

The one in the report wasn't attacking anyone.

[cinFLA]

The dog did not attack anyone.

Right. He was shot before he could attack the cop.

[cinFLA]

The one in the report wasn't attacking anyone.

Source?

[cinFLA]

It used to not be so,

I don't think so.

[wingster]

Yeah, well I could tell you hours of stories that would absolutely appall you. Many came from cops themselves. I'm tellin' ya, I just trust that I never need them. I'm pretty good at taking care of myself/family.

[HairOfTheDog]

OH how maddening. My dog would do no less.

What a pitiful mistake. Such a waste.

[cinFLA]

What it suggests to me is that the trespasser was operating under the "fire and keep firing until he drops" school of thought that's pounded into their heads under the modern paramilitary training regimes.

It is not trespassing.

[cinFLA]

The difference is, I waited to see if that instant was gonna happen before I "made it happen."

The difference is that that dog was not running toward you. If it had, I bet you would have fired at least three shots.