[pabianice]

Based upon how the US has acted in the past, I believe that many more thousands of Americans will have to first be murdered by Islamic lunatics before we get serious about the threat.

[cyborg]

I used to say that bodies need to be piled to the heavens in Africa before anyone pays attention to the muslim slaughter of christians and animists. They're killing other muslims now and still not getting any attention. Now I regard the US on the same terms.

[Liberty Valance]

Based upon how the US has acted in the past, I believe that many more thousands of Americans will have to first be murdered by Islamic lunatics before we get serious about the threat.

The murders of Sept. 11th are what brought about the President's policy of pre-emption. To the lib democrats it's like nothing ever happened. I'm afraid you're correct about what it will take for everyone to understand what is really happening.

[expatpat]

Yes, just as many countries had to be taken over by the Nazis before we got serious about Hitler.