The End of Europe

Newsweek ^ | May 3 issue | Michael Meyer

[Eurotwit]

"If this is the end of old Europe, what is now beginning," asks Tony Judt, director of the Remarque Institute at New York University. As he and many others see it, Europe's future will be managing its growing diversity. Mounting immigration, especially Muslim, will increasingly alter Europe's ethnic and cultural landscape. Changing demographics will undermine Europe's traditional social-welfare states. If old Europe faced the challenge of integrating like with like, the new Europe must reconcile unlike with unlike, grappling with prickly issues of minorities, wealth versus poverty and national identity. "It will be an era of discord and civilizational clashes within states and communities," says Judt, "no longer mainly among them." Europe's disparate citizenry will argue for their very different interests and priorities with increasing vehemence, all the more so if Europe's economy does not keep pace with the region's expectations. The cozy days of a close and like-minded European club are gone. Back to the future? It looks very much that way.

[Steve_Seattle]

It's amazing - a year or two ago, I was reading that the EU was the wave of the future. Now, it is contemplating its very survival as it realizes its plight vis-a-vis Islam. Almost overnight, Europe seems to have realized it's in deep trouble.

[King Prout]

if the euroweenies (their governments, and the supporters thereof) do not wake TF up soon, their future is conquest by Islam.

[swampfox98]

"It will be an era of discord and civilizational clashes within states and communities," says Judt, "no longer mainly among them." Europe's disparate citizenry will argue for their very different interests and priorities with increasing vehemence, all the more so if Europe's economy does not keep pace with the region's expectations. The cozy days of a close and like-minded European club are gone. Back to the future? It looks very much that way.

Are they writing about America? It seems so, as everything said here refers to the United States of the future. Our one world loving President and his friends will see to it that America's fate is the same as Europe's.

I would say the future belongs to the Muslims in Europe and the Mexicans in America. Thank you, politicians, for giving us the world from Hell.

[Ohioan]

Why does every Leftist projection of the future, simply assume--whether the subject is Europe or America--that the present trends will be allowed to continue? Why do these pseudo-analysts just assume that Western Man is incapable of waking up?

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[The KG9 Kid]

Stand by for a wave of 'Old European' immigrants settling down in the US in the coming years.

[LoneRangerMassachusetts]

Stand by for a wave of 'Old European' immigrants settling down in the US in the coming years.

Silly you.

We don't accept legal immigrants. One has to sneak over the border. This is beneath Old Europeans.

[GOP_1900AD]

Liberalism and the passive stance are the death of Europe, full stop. Should Europe persist in naive utopian globalism and pacifism, barren womanhood, decadent nihilism, and nanny state micromanagement of society, part of Europe will become a province of Asia and the rest will be a province of Africa.

[TheLion]

"Stand by for a wave of 'Old European' immigrants settling down in the US in the coming years."

We should require that they be conservative! The liberals will come over here and bury us with all their socialistic mumbo jumbo!

[Unam Sanctam]

There is absolutely no comparison between Moslems in Europe and Mexicans here.

[Porterville]

You really believe communist will allow for religion of any kind in their system? The future in Europe is civil war and we will have to go in and fight on European soil once again; most ironically with the help of Islamic nations like Turkey.

[Eurotwit]

I hope it would not come to that.

Wasn't Kosovo enough?

I'd hate to have to take up arms against US troops who are fighting alongside Turkey and Islamic extremists.

[CasearianDaoist]

This may be how we handle "reverse brain drain" with Asia. If we can just reverse the welfare state, lower alltaxation and increase individual liberty we can have yet another American Century. All it takes is leadership and political will.

[meenie]

"Old America" looks on as the New Americans bankrupt our nation, destroy our manufacturing base and economy, allow the unlimited illegalization of our immigration laws, attack without provocation, and sell our soveignty to the United Nations.

They then have the gall to criticize "Old Europe" for its non-participation in their scheme of global conquest. What in the name of common sense is wrong with neutrality? It seems to work for Sweden and Switzerland, they don't have to spend a fortune protecting themselves from terrorists. Terrorism is similar to the WPA ditches of the depression era, you spend billions making them and then billions covering them up.

[Steve_Seattle]

"It seems to me that these people are a little too eager for the end of civilization. This gleeful, suicidal impulse among our leaders is more dangerous than the Mexicans and the muslims."

In my opinion, the worst examples of this mentality are found among the leaders of mainstream Christianity and the NCC crowd. They claim to be anti-bourgeois and anti-materialist, but their own complacent and frivolous attitude is typical of the worst aspects of the bourgeois mentality. These people were mentally neutered by the fact that historical Christianity didn't have a spotless record; they have been forever rendered impotent and guilt-ridden, and are not-too-subtle cheerleaders for the demise of the West.

[bigcheese]

Agree 100%. I am not in favor of illegal immigration, but if I had to choose between mexicans and muslims, it really would not be a tough choice. Even the really bad apple mexican is not going to blow up a mall. He might kill someone, a string of people, but I cant see him blowing up a mall. Now a muslim...

[Porterville]

I more likely to expect Conservative Europeans to be part of the new resistance starting in about 3-5 years.

[Unam Sanctam]

And it's not only the relative incidence of terrorism, but also the cultural background. Orthodox Islam has as its ideal a confessional state, and does not value the separation of Church and State or religious freedom (non-Muslim minorities are to pay a poll tax and live as second class citizens). The Catholic Church, while it promoted the confessional state in the past, has long ceased to do so, and certainly Mexicans here will not object to a secular constitution.

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THE END OF EUROPE AS THE WEST: "If you want to read the future of Europe, look east," says Jean-Marie Colombani, director of Le Monde in Paris. Until now, the European Union has been a purely West European institution, whose interests lay traditionally within the geography of the NATO alliance. With enlargement, he argues, "the center of gravity of the old Continent will move east." Europe's new backyard is a morass of failing states—Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova—whose problems will become Europe's. "What are the priorities of Poland, Hungary and the Baltic nations?" asks Romanian Foreign Minister Mircea Geoanna, whose own country seeks to join the EU. The first is to reap the economic rewards of EU membership. But the second, he says, is to ensure their own security—and that means shifting Europe's diplomatic and financial attention to the problems on their periphery to the east, in lands Western Europe has long ignored.

Poles, Hungarians, Czechs, Balts, Slovaks and Slovenes are fully "Western" in so far as most of them were part of the Western Latin Church. Are Greeks or Austrians or Prussians more "Western"? Are Spaniards or Scandinavians? No slur against anyone is intended, but it looks like Newsweek hasn't given the matter any serious thought.

Is Europe's focus going to move eastward? Of course, but that doesn't mean in itself that Europe is ending anymore than expansion beyond he original six countries did. Expansion eastward and immigration from the new members may help to counteract the effects of the Muslim influx and keep Europe alive longer.