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Bush should start by firing Rumsfeld
New York Times via Houston Chronicle | May 5, 2004, 10:31PM | By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

Posted on 05/06/2004 12:10:24 AM PDT by weegee

We are in danger of losing something much more important than just the war in Iraq. We are in danger of losing America as an instrument of moral authority and inspiration in the world. I have never known a time in my life when America and its president were more hated around the world than today. I was just in Japan, and even young Japanese dislike us. It's no wonder that so many Americans are obsessed with the finale of the sitcom Friends right now. They're the only friends we have, and even they're leaving.

This administration needs to undertake a total overhaul of its Iraq policy; otherwise, it is courting a total disaster for us all.

That overhaul needs to begin with President Bush firing Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld — today, not tomorrow or next month, today. What happened in Abu Ghraib prison was, at best, a fundamental breakdown in the chain of command under Rumsfeld's authority, or, at worst, part of a deliberate policy somewhere in the military-intelligence command of sexually humiliating prisoners to soften them up for interrogation, a policy that ran amok.

Either way, the secretary of defense is ultimately responsible, and if we are going to rebuild our credibility as instruments of humanitarian values, the rule of law and democratization, in Iraq or elsewhere, Bush must hold his own defense secretary accountable. Words matter, but deeds matter more. If the Pentagon leadership ran any U.S. company with the kind of abysmal planning in this war, it would have been fired by shareholders months ago.

I know that tough interrogations are vital in a war against a merciless enemy, but outright torture, or this sexual-humiliation-for-entertainment, is abhorrent. I also know the sort of abuse that went on in Abu Ghraib prison goes on in prisons all over the Arab world every day, as it did under Saddam — without the Arab League or Al-Jazeera ever saying a word about it. I know they are shameful hypocrites, but I want my country to behave better — not only because it is America, but also because the war on terrorism is a war of ideas, and to have any chance of winning we must maintain the credibility of our ideas.

We were hit on 9/11 by people who believed hateful ideas — ideas too often endorsed by some of their own spiritual leaders and educators back home. We cannot win a war of ideas against such people by ourselves. Only Arabs and Muslims can. What we could do — and this was the only legitimate rationale for this war — was try to help Iraqis create a progressive context in the heart of the Arab-Muslim world where that war of ideas could be fought out.

But it is hard to partner with someone when you become so radioactive no one wants to stand next to you. We have to restore some sense of partnership with the world if we are going to successfully partner with Iraqis.

Bush needs to invite to Camp David the five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council, the heads of both NATO and the United Nations, and the leaders of Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Syria. There, he needs to eat crow, apologize for his mistakes and make clear that he is turning a new page. Second, he needs to explain that we are losing in Iraq, and if we continue to lose the U.S. public will eventually demand that we quit Iraq, and it will then become Afghanistan-on-steroids, which will threaten everyone. Third, he needs to say he will be guided by the United Nations in forming the new caretaker government in Baghdad. And fourth, he needs to explain that he is ready to listen to everyone's ideas about how to expand our force in Iraq, and have it work under a new U.N. mandate, so it will have the legitimacy it needs to crush any uprisings against the interim Iraqi government and oversee elections — and then leave when appropriate. And he needs to urge them all to join in.

Let's not lose sight of something — as bad as things look in Iraq, it is not yet lost, for one big reason: America's aspirations for Iraq and those of the Iraqi silent majority, particularly Shiites and Kurds, are still aligned. We both want Iraqi self-rule and then free elections. That overlap of interests, however clouded, can still salvage something decent from this war — if the Bush team can finally screw up the courage to admit its failures and dramatically change course.

Yes, the hour is late, but as long as there's a glimmer of hope that this Bush team will do the right thing, we must insist on it, because America's role in the world is too precious — to America and to the rest of the world — to be squandered like this.

Friedman is a columnist for The New York Times and a three-time Pulitzer Prize winner.


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To: weegee
The problem for Pres. Bush is that these PICTURES are all over the world. He needs cooperation from the people in Iraq, and these pictures don't help. I realize nobody is hanging dead from a bridge, but Bush has got to be furious if his presidency goes down the tubes because of more pictures coming out every week.
61 posted on 05/06/2004 7:00:40 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: weegee; StriperSniper; Mo1; Peach; Howlin; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
CNN KNEW about torture and murder under Saddam's regime but kept quiet so as to maintain their Baghdad bureau.

SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS!!!

62 posted on 05/06/2004 7:11:10 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA; weegee
CNN KNEW about torture and murder under Saddam's regime but kept quiet so as to maintain their Baghdad bureau.

Not only that .. But they wrote about it in the New York Times

63 posted on 05/06/2004 7:13:35 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: OXENinFLA
The Times reporter said he put Iraq in a category of totalitarian states all its own, with the possible exception of North Korea, yet that "essential truth" was "untold by the vast majority of correspondents" in Baghdad.
"Why? Because they judged that the only way they could keep themselves in play here was to pretend that it was OK."
Burns said some correspondents sought favor with the ministry of information, particularly its director, by "taking him out for long candlelit dinners, plying him with sweet cakes, plying him with mobile phones at $600 each for members of his family, and giving bribes of thousands of dollars."

64 posted on 05/06/2004 7:30:30 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: handy

65 posted on 05/06/2004 7:35:17 AM PDT by Bobber58 (whatever it takes, for as long as it takes)
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To: weegee
Another liberal demanding remorse from the President. Yawwwwnn!

Prairie

66 posted on 05/06/2004 7:42:43 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Ted Rall is a waste of perfectly good oxygen.)
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To: prairiebreeze
Sen Reid was just reading this article on the Sen Floor
67 posted on 05/06/2004 7:59:34 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Mo1
Maybe some Republican Senator will read Cal Thomas article from today.

Naaa, prolly never happen.....but it should.

Prairie

68 posted on 05/06/2004 8:04:06 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Ted Rall is a waste of perfectly good oxygen.)
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To: prairiebreeze
Good idea .. Leahey is up bashing now
69 posted on 05/06/2004 8:14:46 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: weegee
I am afraid that we ceased to be "instrument of moral authority and inspiration in the world" when BJ Clinton got caught getting BJ's in the oval office and we just let him get away with it... G. W. Bush has been restoring our image and the left wing will do anything to derail the process. The situation created by the actions of a few soldiers with the same sense of moral turpitude as Clinton can be corrected. We can expect the anti-U.S. media in the Mid East to exploit it as part of the information war. The problem is that our own press continues to sensationalize the story to attract the prurient interest of their readership.
Stay the course... do the right thing... determine those responsible at all levels and treat them fairly and if culpable, punish them accordingly.

By the way, what was done by these cretins is minor compared to what John Kerry claims to have done in Viet Nam but which he now says he didn't really do, or did he?
70 posted on 05/06/2004 8:19:04 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: weegee
I am afraid that we ceased to be "instrument of moral authority and inspiration in the world" when BJ Clinton got caught getting BJ's in the oval office and we just let him get away with it... G. W. Bush has been restoring our image and the left wing will do anything to derail the process. The situation created by the actions of a few soldiers with the same sense of moral turpitude as Clinton can be corrected. We can expect the anti-U.S. media in the Mid East to exploit it as part of the information war. The problem is that our own press continues to sensationalize the story to attract the prurient interest of their readership.
Stay the course... do the right thing... determine those responsible at all levels and treat them fairly and if culpable, punish them accordingly.

By the way, what was done by these cretins is minor compared to what John Kerry claims to have done in Viet Nam but which he now says he didn't really do, or did he?
71 posted on 05/06/2004 8:19:11 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: WorkingClassFilth
WASN'T THERE A FLAP OVER THE UN TROOPS DOING THE SAME THINGS (i.e., humiliating prisoners) IN BOSNIA A WHILE BACK? I MEAN BESIDES THE USUAL PROBLEMS THE UN HAS HAD WITH CRIME SYNDICATES, PROSTITUTION RINGS, WHITE SLAVERY, IGNORING GENOCIDE AND WHOLESALE THEFT OF AID MONIES.

Yes, there was.

There weren't any pictures.

That's why THIS story was going nowhere (except being handled within the military as it correctly was) until the pictures came out.

To my view, the pictures look like a cut-n-paste job insofar as inserting the soldiers into the staged scene.

72 posted on 05/06/2004 8:40:23 AM PDT by happygrl (this war is for all the marbles...we can't go Spanish!)
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To: weegee
This is all political manuvering taken from the exact same page as teh judicial committee. The KNOW the bush team is a excellent team. The only person I would submit needs to go is Powell but than may be more a function of the institutional incompetence of the state department.
73 posted on 05/06/2004 10:51:06 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
WASN'T THERE A FLAP OVER THE UN TROOPS DOING THE SAME THINGS (i.e., humiliating prisoners) IN BOSNIA A WHILE BACK? I MEAN BESIDES THE USUAL PROBLEMS THE UN HAS HAD WITH CRIME SYNDICATES, PROSTITUTION RINGS, WHITE SLAVERY, IGNORING GENOCIDE AND WHOLESALE THEFT OF AID MONIES.

BUMP

What is overlooked in the "Catholic Church" sex scandals is the absolute suppression by the media of sex scandals involving the United Nations. There are several UN ambassadors who have fled the US after being brought up on (but before prosecution of) charges that they raped minors. There are also the white slavery/prostitution rings.

74 posted on 05/06/2004 11:42:21 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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