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To: AD from SpringBay
"I'm having difficulty caring. The man on the leash is an enemy combatant - not someone who forgot to buckle up before driving to Kroger."

As one earlier poster said, we judge ourselves by OUR standards, not the standards of the enemy which we are fighting.

We treat our prisoners humanely, period. There is no excuse for this behavior, period. Would you want OUR soldiers treated this way, merely because they are enemy combatants?
140 posted on 05/06/2004 9:48:40 AM PDT by Henrietta
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To: Henrietta
"As one earlier poster said, we judge ourselves by OUR standards,"

Nobody is arguing that.

"We treat our prisoners humanely, period. There is no excuse for this behavior, period. Would you want OUR soldiers treated this way, merely because they are enemy combatants?"

if you know what happened in Gulf War I, our soldiers were treated quite a bit worse - some were regularly beaten, the sanitary conditions were awful, men forced to wallow in their own feces. You DO know btw that last year, when some of the soldiers were captured, some were executed?

I am *sure* - even with this exceptional and unacceptable case of abuse - our soldiers would rather take the average treatment the US is giving the enemy soldiers over the actual treatment of our soldiers by saddam's men that took place.
162 posted on 05/06/2004 10:11:38 AM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com - I salute our brave fallen.)
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To: Henrietta
The whole thing seems a bit out of context and we don't know enough about what's going on. AND - I don't think it matters what I want. It is a war situation - that's one of the things that makes it so horrible. Let's not pretend to be civilized when two groups of people gather to destroy one another.

If it were my jail there would be pig-skin blankets, ham sandwiches for lunch and, if everyone behaved, I'd let them watch reruns of the Ellen Degenres show - on loud speaker.
180 posted on 05/06/2004 10:32:16 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: Henrietta
There is no excuse for this behavior, period.

This is simply stupid. There is no excuse for this level of stupidity, coming from someone who very obviously do not understand an iota of what's going on here. But hey, that's the level of stupidity that seems to permeate a good portion of this chorus.

So these guys are being humiliated. I'd say this is not random, it's not done for kicks or for "twisted fantasies", as another yahoo fancying himself a psychologist opined on another thread. This was done to save American lives, an objective seemingly quite unimportant to a great many people here.

Subject an Islamic fighter to this kind of thing, and you break his will - without breaking his head. That is why the Arabs are in hysterics. It's effective in the way it would be effective to force them on a diet of pork - it interferes with their place in the Jihad honor structure, and even with their chances of being a good shahid. And it makes them spill their guts, which saves American lives. Of course that's inexcusable.

Would you want OUR soldiers treated this way

American soldiers are treated a bit differently. Involving mutilation and the like. But of course, that is excusable.

Now excuse me, while I go puke.

209 posted on 05/06/2004 11:32:44 AM PDT by DonaldDuke
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