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To: AppyPappy
Their dad did it. Put it in perspective. These people were fed to dogs and plastic shredders a few years ago. Yeah, it's stupid but it doesn't rise to the level of "torture". It's hazing.

I'm hearing you say "hazing", but the pictures I'm seeing plastered all over the news and web say "sexual deviancy, homosexuality, perverts, bondage, etc."

Granted the media is blowing this up and making the Army as a whole look bad, just as they took isolated incidents during Vietnam and blew them up, but that's no excuse.

If these people are feeling bad that the pictures got out, then perhaps they should have said to themselves "if I didn't want anybody else to see this, especially my family, then perhaps I shouldn't be doing this in the first place.

Even putting my religious beliefs aside (which is near impossible for me in this case), I still find it disgraceful and conduct unbecoming. As a retired officer, I find it particularly disturbing that there seems to have been no oversight. Officers aren't expected to monitor their troops 24/7 (nor should they attempt to or be allowed), and there are times where they turn a blind eye to how things are going, as long as things get done and stay within regulations, but this was too vile and open of a thing to be ignored. If they didn't know about, then some NCOs failed somewhere.

I do have faith that the military justice system will take care of this, and those involved (upto and including their commanders) will be punished appropriatly.

185 posted on 05/06/2004 10:45:15 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
Let me ask you this. How far are you willing to go to stop terrorists from lighting off bombs in public places that are designed to kill our troops? Obviously, I am willing to go a lot farther than coddling and accept some hazing. TERRORISTS ARE NOT ENEMY SOLDIERS. They deserve anything they get. I don't care if it does alienate france or Germany or Upeckerstan or whoever.
189 posted on 05/06/2004 10:59:04 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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