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We can fight them over there or over here. It's our choice.
I agree, being sexually deviant with their prisoners is a completely different issue - totally unrelated with keeping the fight over there. But it does speak volumes about us as a nation; both to our friends and enemies. It does nothing to make our friendship ties stronger but does make those who hate us more resolved.

"It does nothing to make our friendship ties stronger but does make those who hate us more resolved."

More resolved then, say, flying planes into our Pentagon, WTC towers, killing 3,000 citizens in one blow,....you know their track record since Beirut...or perhaps not.

WHO CARES WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT US!! WE ARE THERE TO KILL THEM ALL AND CRUSH OUR ENEMIES BENEATH OUR HEELS THAT THEY SHOULD NOT RISE TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY!!

DEATH TO THE ENEMIES!! VICTORY FOR FREEDOM!!

I agree, being sexually deviant with their prisoners is a completely different issue - totally unrelated with keeping the fight over there. But it does speak volumes about us as a nation; both to our friends and enemies. It does nothing to make our friendship ties stronger but does make those who hate us more resolved.

I don't think it speaks volumes about us as a nation. The USA is definitely not a sexually deviant nation. If anything, we are mocked for being considered prudes (that is probably why people around the world are shocked to see Americans engaged in such behavior with prisoners).

Our troops are expected to reflect our mainstream values, not to reflect something that came out of a San Francisco bathhouse.

I think it speaks volumes about the lack of supervision or accountability that some troops have. It's unfortunate, that with an all-volunteer, motivated military, that more supervision or accountability is needed for some.

I do agree with you that such conduct, even by a minority of our troops, will strengthen the resolve of those who would fight us. That is something that some who defend this kind of behavior seem to miss or turn a blind eye towards.