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To: swilhelm73
I agree that university liberal arts departments tend to have an anti-conservative slant (as a liberal arts student myself). This is often translates into intolerance for dissenting points of view. But I diagree that David Horowitz would do very many things that were genuinely nonpartisan.

Academic freedom is vital to a university's intellectual culture. When it comes from a genuinely nonpartisan source, then there can be a healthy discussion.

8 posted on 05/10/2004 3:59:11 PM PDT by ggordon22
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To: ggordon22
But I diagree that David Horowitz would do very many things that were genuinely nonpartisan.

Which points on the list do you see as being anything other then "genuinely nonpartisan"?

10 posted on 05/10/2004 4:16:39 PM PDT by Bob
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To: ggordon22
Academic freedom is vital to a university's intellectual culture. When it comes from a genuinely nonpartisan source, then there can be a healthy discussion.

(1) Students should be graded on the basis of their reasoned answers and appropriate knowledge of the disciplines they study.

If a student's grade may be reduced for a difference of political ideology there is no academic freedom.

14 posted on 05/10/2004 4:50:46 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: ggordon22
Get real! Either academia hires conservatives too for liberal arts departments or it's one big fraud. Universities were never so unbalanced in favor of commies and leftists. Many departments are virtually recruitment and hiring centers for the most disgusting feminazis and neo Marxists. Where they hire ONLY THEIR OWN KIND!
16 posted on 05/10/2004 4:51:58 PM PDT by dennisw (Exposing John Kerry--> Swift Boat Veterans for Truth---> http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: ggordon22
You are foolish to claim that the "source" of these principles is what should determine the response to it. This is precisely why such principles are needed. When neutral principles of freedom are rejected for the "source", you are really dealing with a totalitarian place where one's identity prevents one from getting a fair hearing for what one proposes.

In fact, the content of the principles is what doomed them. The close vote was a sham engineered to look like there is a chance of reasoned debate in the institution. The lack of reasoned debate and insistence that there be no record proves that. The event shows that the left at academic campi throughout America have been captured by totalitarians where freedom, diversity and academic freedom to voice dissenting views, are anathama to the commisars in charge.

19 posted on 05/10/2004 5:17:38 PM PDT by ontos-on (te)
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To: ggordon22
Academic freedom is vital to a university's intellectual culture. When it comes from a genuinely nonpartisan source, then there can be a healthy discussion.

According to the left, the ONLY non-partisan source is another leftist. Conservatives have NO chance to get a fair hearing at most large universities today because their administrations are SOLIDLY in the hands of leftists, and those who drift toward Student Government also trend leftward.

46 posted on 05/11/2004 1:17:04 PM PDT by SuziQ
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