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To: IronJack
I'm not sure what is "abusive" about strip-searching enemy combatants.

We're signatories to the Geneva Conventions. Anytime prisoners are treated outside those standards it is abuse. Forgive me but it's highly disingenuous to contend that these were "strip-searches," as if these people were naked during some kind of in-processing routine. Nor were they naked because the MPs were "following orders" (an obviously self-serving charge that I will believe only when I see hard evidence for it). They were naked because they were being humiliated for sport by incredibly undisciplined, foolish and sadistic American MPs.

I don't know what constitutes a "scandal" when an investigation was launched immediately upon hearing the allegations.

A scandal exists when American soldiers in uniform in a war zone film one another blatantly violating the Geneva Conventions, grinning like bozos all the while.

17 posted on 05/10/2004 6:11:35 PM PDT by beckett
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To: beckett
We're signatories to the Geneva Conventions.

Is Iraq?

Anytime prisoners are treated outside those standards it is abuse.

What provision of the Geneva Accords did we violate in taking pictures of naked prisoners? Different time, different war. And if this is the worst "abuse" our prisoners need fear, then they've got it pretty easy, compared to most other jailers.

Forgive me but it's highly disingenuous to contend that these were "strip-searches," as if these people were naked during some kind of in-processing routine. Nor were they naked because the MPs were "following orders" (an obviously self-serving charge that I will believe only when I see hard evidence for it). They were naked because they were being humiliated for sport by incredibly undisciplined, foolish and sadistic American MPs.

And you know this because ...?

A scandal exists when American soldiers in uniform in a war zone film one another blatantly violating the Geneva Conventions, grinning like bozos all the while.

An impropriety, yes. A distraction, yes. An ugly, forgettable incident, okay. But a "scandal?" Only if you and people like you buy into that designation. I don't.

18 posted on 05/10/2004 8:34:44 PM PDT by IronJack
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