[cajungirl]

I saw the video today. It felt like a duty, he died at their hands and the least, the very least I could do was to know what happened. Now I know. And I can see this magnified by the thousands because that is what they will do to all of us given the chance. This is total war as far as I am concerned. A line has been crossed for me and I would support a William T Sherman like move across all Islamic territory.

[highlandbreeze]

You are much braver that I. I saw some last week, posted on a thread, Daniel Perle, a Russian POw, and a torture one. They were awful and deeply disturbed me. I'm not quite ready to see the latest.

Not yet.

[GOP_1900AD]

We really do need to undertake a serious war, which we've not yet done. We've only toyed with it thus far. Bush has done what he can, but our current demographics, the long years since a large percentage of Americans fought in a real war (even Vietnam bypassed many) and the obsession with global economic integration and consumerism, have made us incapable of fully mobilizing. Some say here it will take another 9/11 or worse to wake people up - I am thinking worse. It may be that we will only mobilize from the shattered remains of what constitutes normal life. It may be that a remnent of Western Civilization form up some sort of Charlemagnesque empire from which to roll back the heathen and barbarians. Whatever it is, I am ready.