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Nick Berg Death *WORSE* Than Video - Throat Cutting Scene Edited
Nick Berg Video | May 12, 2004 | UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Posted on 05/12/2004 8:51:08 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

A few seconds after Nick Berg is pushed over and the knife put to his neck the clock skips from 2:44:12 to 2:45:47 during the throat cutting. 1:35 of clumsy hacking and screaming were edited out. Islam requires a sharp knife and quick kill but this was not.

The sound runs 5 to 7 seconds ahead of the video. That is why the yelling starts before anyone moves. The reader audibly clears his throat at 2:42:32 but covers his mouth at 2:42:38.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; iraq; islam; islamofascist; muslims; nickberg; nickbergvideo; religionofpeace
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You need the higher quality 5.3MB original video to read the clock. The over-compressed 1.9MB version on many websites is illegible. It can be easily found and downloaded from the newsgroup alt.binaries.pictures.grotesque.
1 posted on 05/12/2004 8:51:09 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Dear God, hard to imagine it being worse than it was. I did notice the screaming started before the killing and that perplexed me.
2 posted on 05/12/2004 8:53:20 AM PDT by cajungirl (<i>swing low, sweet limousine, comin' fer to Kerry me hoooommmee</i>)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
At least they did not dress him in women's underwear and put a dog collar around his neck.

That would have been far crueler.

Just ask Dan Rather.
3 posted on 05/12/2004 8:54:42 AM PDT by Reelect President Dubya (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
This is an integral part of the story, and should be widely reported.

But it won't be.

4 posted on 05/12/2004 8:55:34 AM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Dear God, I didn't notice it. I have it downloaded and will check. The 5-7 second lag is a bit confusing, I might try to edit it back into sync, and then send it to some media outlets.
5 posted on 05/12/2004 8:57:04 AM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: EternalHope
Crap I gotta watch it again, once is enough.
6 posted on 05/12/2004 8:57:08 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
His body was also left near US HQ hanging from a bridge. With the head nearby.
7 posted on 05/12/2004 8:57:21 AM PDT by dennisw (Exposing John Kerry--> Swift Boat Veterans for Truth---> http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
After watching the swinish Arabs saw incompetently through Berg's neck, I have one question: Are there no sharp knives in Iraq?

I'd love to go at those f***ers with a dull axe.
8 posted on 05/12/2004 8:58:37 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Memo to all
THIS IS WAR AND THE ONLY RULES IS: WIN IT
Anything else is irrelevant
9 posted on 05/12/2004 8:59:18 AM PDT by 1903A3
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Islam requires a sharp knife and quick kill....

Oh my, good to know. The next time they kill a hostage, we can say, At least it was a humane quick kill.

Judaism maintains that requirement for kosher killing of animals so they don't suffer unnecessary pain. Does Islam have a specific religious law that states, "Murdering infidels requires a sharp knife and quick kill?"

10 posted on 05/12/2004 8:59:56 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: cajungirl
Does Islam condone the keeping of Israeli body parts as bargaining chips?
11 posted on 05/12/2004 9:00:33 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
A link in a thread yesterday was from a tv station that had posted screencaps of the murder.

Someone else noticed that the screencap timestamps showed upwards of 11 hours difference.

I didn't go back to look at the pics to verify.

If true, the torture may have been even more horrible, if it took 11 hours and 'published video' was extensively edited.
12 posted on 05/12/2004 9:01:14 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
I didn't look at the clock, but I do remember the unsynchronized sound and action. In fact, while watching, I thought it went rather too quickly given the knife being used and knowing how hard it is to cut through bone and tissue from dressing game. Also, the lack of visibly spurting blood, and the lack of blood dripping from the head suggests that they cut off the head, cleaned up a bit of the mess and then showed the subhuman holding up the head. Yech.
13 posted on 05/12/2004 9:02:54 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
That's sick...so the terrorists were the ones who edited it out? What were they afraid of? They are already marked for death.
14 posted on 05/12/2004 9:03:34 AM PDT by MaxPlus305
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To: TomGuy
If their purpose is to horrify America then why would they edit it themselves ?
Of are you saying someone other than terrorists edited it ?
15 posted on 05/12/2004 9:04:45 AM PDT by millefleur
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To: Ciexyz
Since the Muslims feel this is a holy war, then perhaps we should invoke the same rules that God gave the Jews when they were fighting the arabs in the Old Testament. Kill everyone that pisseth against a wall. I believe that for every non-combatant American killed, we should summarily execute, in public, ten muslim men. When we run out of men, start on the male muslim teens, when they are gone, start on the male children. These animals will eventually get the message.
16 posted on 05/12/2004 9:04:50 AM PDT by DaiHuy (MUST HAVE JUST BEEN BORN THAT WAY...)
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To: 1903A3
After seeing this, and all the liberal uproar over prisoner abuse, I say NO MORE PRISONERS.

From now on there should be only two groups of people in Iraq: friendly and dead.

17 posted on 05/12/2004 9:05:00 AM PDT by Sender (<a href="http://www.democrats.org/">Miserable Failure</a>)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
I just watched it again, good catch! Who knows what else they did during that missing time, for all I know stood around and did a c*rcle j*rk.

I showed this video to a person I know who was, by marriage, involved for many years in the Arab community. This person was of course appalled. This person had been telling me for years about the mentality of the people from that part of the world (this person lived there for a time). This persons final comment was "we need to kill these people, all of them..".

Note, I do not subscribe to this thinking, however, I AM for exterminating the 10% or so of them who are agree with these murderous perverted bastards.

18 posted on 05/12/2004 9:05:18 AM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
The guys who did this are %#*&ing DEAD.
19 posted on 05/12/2004 9:05:20 AM PDT by hemogoblin (The few, the proud, the 537.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
OMG! I had no idea there was a delay. I thought the screaming was from the terrorists for further courage. I was sure Berg died very quickly, but I now know he did not.

The American Indians used *warrior screams* to drown out their enemies screams during a bloody battle.
20 posted on 05/12/2004 9:05:29 AM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1
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To: TomGuy
I suspect that the majority media will not allow this to be reported...it would make America made and perhaps unable to be controlled...much like 9/11 SHOULD!!!!!
21 posted on 05/12/2004 9:06:30 AM PDT by 4everontheRight (GW'04 - Rice'08)
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To: 1903A3
Wasn't it Roosevelt that said of the Muslims in the Middle East; "It's not important that they don't like us. It is important that they respect us."
22 posted on 05/12/2004 9:06:40 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: 1903A3
Memo to all
THIS IS WAR AND THE ONLY RULES IS: WIN IT
Anything else is irrelevant


That message isn't sinking in to many, yet. The libs are in denial.

Remember from the 9-11 Commission over 2 weeks ago: They declared war on us long before we declared war on them.

Well, we still haven't declared a full war. Too much PC is ongoing. One report, for example, stated that troops in Iraq guarding prisoners are using rubber bullets. Another report, after the pix scandal, guard can no longer put hoods over prisoners' heads. Kennedy and al-Sadr call it a VietNam. On and on and on...

chip, chip, chip, chip...PC is chipping away and we are losing this war.
23 posted on 05/12/2004 9:07:19 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: 4everontheRight
sorry I meant MAD!
24 posted on 05/12/2004 9:07:40 AM PDT by 4everontheRight (GW'04 - Rice'08)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
How do I get to it?

I really do not want to watch it, but I feel I owe it to Nick.

Those SICK F***S!!
25 posted on 05/12/2004 9:08:27 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (How do you subdue a class of people? Limit their knowledge.)
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To: headsonpikes
I'd love to go at those f***ers with a dull axe.

I'd prefer to administer a healthy dose of .556. Why break a sweat? Scumbags like these should be dropped unceremoniously and left to rot.

26 posted on 05/12/2004 9:09:30 AM PDT by AngryJawa (Thank You Troops!)
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To: DaiHuy
I believe that for every non-combatant American killed, we should summarily execute, in public, ten muslim men

Giving them precisely what they want. Good plan.

27 posted on 05/12/2004 9:09:57 AM PDT by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: millefleur
If their purpose is to horrify America then why would they edit it themselves ?
Of are you saying someone other than terrorists edited it ?

I draw no conclusion. I only state the observation. Anything else would be conjecture, as to whether the terrorists edited or someone else did. That determination would require some expert to review the video file.

28 posted on 05/12/2004 9:10:58 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Where did you find the video? What link?
29 posted on 05/12/2004 9:11:41 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: TomGuy
Do you know what date he was murdered on?
30 posted on 05/12/2004 9:12:16 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Owl_Eagle
ping
31 posted on 05/12/2004 9:12:33 AM PDT by HenryLeeII ("The war on terror is not a figure of speech, it is an inescapable calling of our generation." -GWB)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
I also want to watch it! Where can I see it!
Thanks.
32 posted on 05/12/2004 9:13:36 AM PDT by BobFromNJ
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To: DaiHuy
Kill everyone that pisseth against a wall.

Can you source that? I must have been absent that day of Sunday School.

33 posted on 05/12/2004 9:14:40 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: DaiHuy
which ones? which 10? 10 iraqis training to be part of their security forces? 10 schoolteachers? 10 workers at the oil facilities?

calm down. the "best" people we can kill right now are Sadr's militiamen, get your satisfaction at seeing them be killed, they at least deserve it.
34 posted on 05/12/2004 9:14:40 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Hate to post these photos but... Please notice the timestamps on the video. Why does it seem to jump 11 hours (2:44:10 to 13:45:47)?




35 posted on 05/12/2004 9:14:58 AM PDT by itsamelman ("Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement." -- R. Reagan)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
This info needs to be sent to Fox News, Rush, Drudge and everyone else and get out there.
36 posted on 05/12/2004 9:15:31 AM PDT by visualops
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To: Cobra64
If you know how to get to newsgroups it was posted twice yesterday to alt.binaries.pictures.grotesque. Newsgroup bandwidth is virtually unlimited. All website hosts get crashed.
37 posted on 05/12/2004 9:15:37 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: itsamelman
because they stopped videoing and then started back 11 hours later.
38 posted on 05/12/2004 9:16:26 AM PDT by RolandBurnam
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To: AngryJawa
Let's just haul a load of them up to about 30,000 ft in an AC-130 and then drop 'em on the rest of our enemy. Cheaper than bombs.
40 posted on 05/12/2004 9:17:03 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (How do you subdue a class of people? Limit their knowledge.)
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To: Protagoras
A friend of mine told me last night that a lot of these terrorists are doing this so their *families* will be protected and will get money.
Then this friend of mine said we should go get the *families and kill them all* to show the terrorists they can't win.

I'm just passing along a plan not saying I believe in it myself.
41 posted on 05/12/2004 9:17:40 AM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
I will betcha this administration will continue the PC game & probably will lose or just sqeek out a Nov victory. This president better understand that the ENEMY IS WITHIN & he better get off of his COMPASSIONATE rear & kick some A$$.
42 posted on 05/12/2004 9:18:01 AM PDT by Digger (a)
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To: MaxPlus305
"They are already marked for death."
 
Notice how fidgety the maggot on the right is. Can't keep still. Fear. He's going to flail around a lot, defecating all over himself, when he dies.


 

43 posted on 05/12/2004 9:19:03 AM PDT by wolficatZ (___><))))*>_ \0/___/|______)
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To: Howlin
Do you know what date he was murdered on?

I haven't heard. IIRC, his body was found Saturday. Some reports seemed to indicate he may been dead a couple or several days before being 'found'. [The body was hanged from an overpass, so it assuredly was planted there early Saturday.]
44 posted on 05/12/2004 9:19:30 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Time for a scorched earth policy.
45 posted on 05/12/2004 9:20:23 AM PDT by stylin19a (Don't be so quick to judge. God waits until the end.)
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To: Paradox
...however, I AM for exterminating the 10% or so of them who are agree with these murderous perverted bastards.

Me too, though that number may be over 100,000 people, and it will take years for our government to grow guts that big...

46 posted on 05/12/2004 9:20:58 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: TheStickman
ping
47 posted on 05/12/2004 9:21:32 AM PDT by visualops
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To: Paradox
At some point, the West - American and Britain if no one else - is going to have to lay out the following proposition to Moslems in their own societies: you're with us or against us. Completely. Either completely renounce the notion of Jihad and creating Islamic states, and become active in the war against the Islamofascists, or we will have to regard you as supporting Jihad and Islamic states. We consider that inimical to the values of the West and not tolerable. Moslems who are not actively assisting in the war on Terror will be segregated from the rest of society. No one will be harmed, and you will receive the value of your property, but you will be removed to remote locations where you can do no harm.

And to the Arab countries, we'll have to say much the same thing about choosing sides, only the stakes are much larger: those who do not actively support us will be deemed to be enemies of the West. We reserve the right to take whatever measures we deem necessary or desireable in dealing with our enemies. Attacks on our citizens or soldiers will be met with what John Foster Dulles called "massive retaliation". In other words, annihilation and the modern equivalent of a Carthagenian Peace.

48 posted on 05/12/2004 9:21:52 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1
From what I've heard, that is how Russia finally dealth with a similar 'Islamofanatic' problem---sending body pieces to living family members.
49 posted on 05/12/2004 9:23:32 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
I just emailed Hannity, Drudge, O'Reilly and Fox news. I need to go log into Rush 24/7 and email him.
50 posted on 05/12/2004 9:23:33 AM PDT by visualops
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