[Jalapeno]

I think the Humvee is the wrong vehicle for the job over there, and has contributed to the KIA count. They were not meant to survive such ambushes.

[Cannoneer No. 4]

The HMMWV is a highly successful family of vehicles. We could use a smaller, lighter vehicle in the 1/4-Ton class for many things we are using 1 1/4-Ton HMMWV's for. That is not economy of force. Note that the M-Gator is almost exactly the same size as the Willys Jeep.

The M1114 is an OK vehicle for some missions, suboptimal for other missions and a poor choice for far too many missions. Everything concerning Up Armored Humvees has become totally politicized. Political pressure has forced the Army to buy more, to the great benefit of the sole source contractor, O'Gara-Hess, while other, more capable vehicles without powerful patrons and well orchestrated media campaigns are ignored entirely or bought in small quantity.