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Berg's Father Demands Answers From Bush (Free Republic mentioned)
Duluth News Tribune ^ | Thursday, May 13, 2004 | Nicole Weisensee Egan

Posted on 05/13/2004 9:13:32 PM PDT by kristinn

Posted on Thu, May. 13, 2004

Berg's father demands answers from Bush BY NICOLE WEISENSEE EGAN Knight Ridder Newspapers

PHILADELPHIA - (KRT) - The day he buried his son, Nick Berg's father angrily lashed out at President Bush - and said he had a question for him:

"I would like to ask him if it's true that al-Qaeda offered to trade my son's life for another person," Michael Berg told a small group of reporters early Thursday morning outside his West Chester home.

"And if that is true, well, I need that information," said Berg, a self-proclaimed peace activist who has marched against the Iraq war. "I think that the people of the United States of America need to know what the fate of their sons and daughters might be in the hands of the Bush administration."

In the video showing Nick Berg's decapitation, one of the masked men read a statement that Berg had been offered in exchange for some Iraqi prisoners. U.S. officials deny that.

Berg said he did not blame the terrorists for his son's violent death.

"Nicholas Berg died for the sins of George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld," he said, shortly after posting a "War is not the Answer" sign on his front lawn. "The al-Qaeda people are probably just as bad as they are, but this administration did this."

Hours after his strong remarks, Michael Berg said goodbye to his son in a private burial ceremony attended only by family members. A private memorial service will be held Friday.

In other developments Thursday:

• The CIA confirmed that, according to voice analysis, terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was the masked man who beheaded Nick Berg in the video that was beamed around the world on the Internet earlier this week.

• While U.S. officials continue to deny that Berg ever had been in U.S. military custody, Michael Berg produced e-mails from Beth Payne, the U.S. consular officer in Iraq, dated April 1, that said his son was being detained by the military.

• An alternative, left-leaning blog, www.breakfornews.com, posted a story theorizing that the Iraqi police had detained Nick Berg because his company, Prometheus Methods Tower Service Inc., and his father had been named on a list of "enemies" of the Iraq occupation in March.

• More information - and theories - surfaced about why the Iraqi police had detained Berg and what happened to him after he lost contact with his parents on April 9. Meanwhile, in Mosul, police chief Maj. Gen. Mohammed Khair al-Barhawl insisted his department had never arrested Berg and had no knowledge of the case.

• Luke Lorenz, one of Berg's best friends, got a Web site - www.nickberg.org - up and running in honor of his slain friend.

Late Wednesday, Rep. Jim Gerlach, R-Pa., sent a letter on behalf of the Berg family to Secretary of State Colin Powell seeking answers to the puzzling questions surrounding Nick Berg's final days in Iraq.

Thursday, Michael Berg addressed a number of questions that have surfaced in recent days, including why his son had refused offers by the FBI and the military to fly him home.

Berg said his son may have turned down the offer because he'd "had enough of the FBI." Payne, the U.S. consular officer, also told the family she'd try to get him on a military flight out of Baghdad, he said.

"I told my son this when I spoke to him on the telephone for the last time ever on April 9, and he said, `I don't take too seriously anything that the State Department promises,' " Berg said, just before taking off on his morning bicycle ride.

"I don't think he was doubting their sincerity but their ability in the situation. And it was only a promise for a try so that didn't give us a whole lot of confidence."

Berg also said that the FBI told the Iraqi police to hold his son after spotting him riding in a cab in Mosul late at night.

"The Iraqis arrested him," Berg said. "He was doing nothing wrong. He was not breaking the curfew. He was in a taxicab. It was late at night. They were suspicious. I don't blame them for that. What I do blame them for is detaining him for 13 days without due process."

Thursday, the Philadelphia Daily News reported that another reason that Nick Berg had been held for so long was that the FBI was checking into some contact he may have had with terrorists while he attended the University of Oklahoma.

Michael Berg said his son had attended the university and had been taking a course at a remote campus, near the airport, and had to take a bus to get there.

"Some terrorist people - which no one knew were terrorists at the time; they were just going as students - were also taking that bus," Berg said. "And someone asked him basically if he could use his computer. And he did. College kids did it all the time. And it turns out this guy was a terrorist and he used my son's e-mail address - amongst many other people's e-mail who he did the same thing to.

"He was not a friend of my son's, not even an acquaintance," Berg said. "Just a guy sitting next to him on the bus. The FBI was satisfied with that."

A senior law-enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Nick Berg had volunteered information about the 2002 investigation when he was detained in Iraq. The official said that an e-mail address traced to Berg had been used by an unidentified individual with purported connections to terrorism.

The investigation showed that Berg had never met the suspect individual and had not given the e-mail address to that person. Investigators concluded that Berg's e-mail address had been spread among dozens of people with links to the university.

The suspect individual appears to have been acquainted with Zacarias Moussaoui, an al-Qaeda adherent now in federal custody and awaiting trial on conspiracy charges stemming from the Sept. 11 attacks, the official said.

Moussaoui attended flight school in Norman, Okla., home of the university.

Also Thursday, Michael Berg said he has been a member of International ANSWER - Act Now to Stop War & End Racism - for the past year and has participated in several anti-occupation marches. He said he planned to march on the Pentagon with the group, which is calling for Bush to bring the troops home now, on June 5.

The story on the alternative blog site theorized that information about the Bergs and the "enemies" list made its way to the FBI and, eventually, into the hands of those in Iraq who track or harass anti-war activists entering the country.

The list appeared on www.freerepublic.com, a neo-conservative, pro-war Web site, on March 7. It posted questions from an unidentified reporter from Salon.com Thursday.

Berg said his son was a supporter of Bush up until he died.

Bill Schneider, a CNN political analyst, said it's clear that both liberals and conservatives are trying to use Nick Berg's gruesome death to advance their causes.

"The Right seized upon his terrible death to try to reverse the momentum of horror over prisoners being abused," he said. "They immediately seized upon that to say, `You see. These are the people we're dealing with.'

"And now the Left is trying to say he was arrested because he was harassed because of his father's anti-war ideologies," he said. "Both sides are trying to use any scrap or evidence they can to discredit the other side. This whole tragic affair has gotten caught up in the controversy over the war. And it's probably not going to end anytime soon."

The danger facing American contractors in Iraq like Nick Berg is likely to continue, said Kathryn Rosenblum, editor of the Iraq Reconstruction Report, a newsletter devoted to Iraq business prospects.

"It's an incredibly risky place," she said Thursday, estimating that 30,000 to 50,000 Americans, Iraqis and Third World nationals are working there now. She said she's aware of 60 American workers who've been killed in Iraq and a handful who are missing.

At a ceremony Thursday in Center City, former Army Specialist and POW Shoshana Johnson said that Berg's death should be a warning to all non-military personnel over there.

"Get civilians out of Iraq," she said, after accepting the Freedom Award at Citizen Crime Commission's Law Enforcement Appreciation Day.

Philadelphia Daily News staff writers Barbara Laker and Simone Weichselbaum and Daily News wire services contributed to this report.

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To: kristinn
I stopped reading right here: "Berg said he did not blame the terrorists for his son's violent death."

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I'm sorry for their loss....but I've no use for this guy's thoughts. He's an idiot.

FWIW-

141 posted on 05/14/2004 5:14:21 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Not all of us are Sheep..................)
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To: sauropod

Michael Berg says he'll be marching on the Pentagon with ANSWER June 5.


142 posted on 05/14/2004 5:16:57 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: Bobby777; Noumenon
"I stand in horrified astonishment that after 9/11, there are still some people who think that we can reason with these people ... I don't believe there's a ghost of a chance and I think we're in for a very long haul ...

"I shudder to think how bad it will get before America really wakes up to what this problem is ... it's huge ... and it does not bode well for the future given their deeds ..."

Correct. We are heading toward a civil war.

143 posted on 05/14/2004 5:18:18 AM PDT by sauropod ("I am Locutus of Borg. Resistance is futile. You will service US.")
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To: kristinn

I think Mr. Berg should first come clean about what exactly his son was doing in Iraq. If his son's company is fictitious, and he was there to help the terrorists, we should know that.


144 posted on 05/14/2004 5:18:45 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: doug from upland
He is a cold calculating POS, Doug. My sympathy for him is gone.

And to any Saloon reporter reading this, cogitate on this: If Moussawi was using Berg's computer account a couple of years ago, there was certainly no need to find out about him from Free Republic, was there? [courtesy of my gf who is ranting and raving in the kitchen right now ;-)].

145 posted on 05/14/2004 5:25:51 AM PDT by sauropod ("I am Locutus of Borg. Resistance is futile. You will service US.")
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To: syriacus
I pointed out most of this to my gf last night. Why does everything have to happen in Oklahoma?

Here's another oddity: Anita Hill is [or was] a professor at OU in Norman.

146 posted on 05/14/2004 5:29:59 AM PDT by sauropod ("I am Locutus of Borg. Resistance is futile. You will service US.")
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To: DollyCali

Me too...


147 posted on 05/14/2004 5:30:44 AM PDT by carton253 (Re: The War on Terror. It's time to draw our swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: Dark Knight
Worth repeating in bigger bolder font:

Berg had ties to one of the potential 9/11 hijackers, and not just acquaintance, that is totally bizarre, and under reported. He went to Iraq to do work he was unqualified for, and there is no evidence he did any work. He had the money to do this HOW? He was offered a plane trip free of IRAQ courtesy the US government, and he turned it down, WHY? He was a jewish person in Iraq, and didn't think that was a problem?

His dad is lying. His dad also sold his son's soul for politics. Even so, Dios mio, no one deserves to die like that. Our resolve should be more, not less. His father should be ashamed he participated in his own son's death, via ANSWER. And the only thing President Bush should have to give, in reply, is a mirror.

148 posted on 05/14/2004 5:32:54 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: backhoe

That cartoon is exactly the way I feel.


149 posted on 05/14/2004 5:36:29 AM PDT by sauropod ("I am Locutus of Borg. Resistance is futile. You will service US.")
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To: kristinn
Berg said he did not blame the terrorists for his son's violent death. "Nicholas Berg died for the sins of George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld,"

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Michael Berg is a POS.

If he is so dissatisfied with his life here in the States, let him have the courage of his convictions and go overseas and kiss his sons' murderers arses.

He'll wind up being the next contestant on "The Slice is Right".

150 posted on 05/14/2004 5:36:35 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,Election '04...It's going to be a bumpy ride,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø)
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To: kristinn

Saw that.


151 posted on 05/14/2004 5:38:08 AM PDT by sauropod ("I am Locutus of Borg. Resistance is futile. You will service US.")
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To: kristinn
"I think that the people of the United States of America need to know what the fate of their sons and daughters might be in the hands of the Bush administration."

I can't imagine anyone stupid enough to actually believe that they can "demand" answers from my president.
A better question (and I can ask it any time I want) is:

What might be the fate of a son or daughter raised by really really stupid persons?

He might get some answers from the parents of Taliban John or Pancake Corey...
The strange thing is, I know a few unemployed people looking for jobs, but it never occured to a single one to go looking in the middle of a war zone in the middle of sandmaggot country.
Stupid is as stupid does, and the apple -tree thing.

152 posted on 05/14/2004 5:38:29 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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To: syriacus
Berg's father says a terrorist riding on a bus with his son, used his son's internet account. Other reports (FBI?) said a third person borrowed Berg's account and passed it on to Moussaoui.

And yet there's more according to this story:

Investigators concluded that Berg's e-mail address had been spread among dozens of people with links to the university.

And Nick Berg did not question this?

153 posted on 05/14/2004 5:38:43 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: hellinahandcart; NYC GOP Chick; cyborg; Lil'freeper

ping.


154 posted on 05/14/2004 5:39:38 AM PDT by sauropod ("I am Locutus of Borg. Resistance is futile. You will service US.")
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To: sauropod
Anita Hill is [or was] a professor at OU in Norman.

My gosh! That's right!

155 posted on 05/14/2004 5:41:39 AM PDT by syriacus (Ted Kennedy-did you criticize Clinton and Reno's attack on Waco which resulted in children's deaths?)
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To: sauropod

He really needs to be quiet.


156 posted on 05/14/2004 5:41:41 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
And the only thing President Bush should have to give, in reply, is a mirror.

Good idea.

157 posted on 05/14/2004 5:43:24 AM PDT by syriacus (Ted Kennedy-did you criticize Clinton and Reno's attack on Waco which resulted in children's deaths?)
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To: texasflower
I hate to say it, but I am starting to think Nick Berg was not just some innocent contracter trying to make money.

All signs point to something more sinister. The more I read the more it seems as if he was in Iraq trying to contact AQ and succeeded. The father is involved at some level too. Too many questions: contact with Moussouai, a 'job' as an independent communications worker that provided reason for moving about the country, but is there any confirmation that he actually worked for anyone while he was in Iraq?, and on and on.
158 posted on 05/14/2004 5:45:02 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: syriacus
I archive all threads of interest.
Am I ever glad I created a folder labelled "Nutcases"!
159 posted on 05/14/2004 5:45:39 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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To: kristinn
"And if that is true, well, I need that information," said Berg, a self-proclaimed peace activist who has marched against the Iraq war. "I think that the people of the United States of America need to know what the fate of their sons and daughters might be in the hands of the Bush administration."

Not this American. Berg had no business being in Iraq. The father is now being an a$$hole. Sorry for his son, but the old man needs to shut his pie hole.

160 posted on 05/14/2004 5:46:18 AM PDT by Go Gordon
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