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Outrage as KISS player mouths off on Muslims
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | May 14, 2004

Posted on 05/13/2004 9:25:48 PM PDT by veronica

KISS bass player Gene Simmons has caused an uproar among Australia's Muslim community by launching an attack on Islamic culture while in Melbourne.

The lizard-tongued rock god who is touring Australia with the world's most enduring glam rock band launched an attack on Muslim extremists during an interview on Melbourne's 3AW radio - including comments which were labelled inaccurate.

"Extremism believes that it's okay to strap bombs on to your children and send them to paradise and whatever else and to behead people," he said yesterday.

The Israeli-born US musician went on to say Islam was a "vile culture" that treated women worse than dogs.

Muslim women had to walk behind their men and were not allowed to be educated or own houses, he said.

"Your dog, however, can walk side by side, your dog is allowed to have its own dog house... you can send your dog to school to learn tricks, sit, beg, do all that stuff - none of the women have that advantage."

He went on to say the west was under threat.

"This is a vile culture and if you think for a second that it's going to just live in the sands of God's armpit you've got another thing coming," he said.

"They want to come and live right where you live and they think that you're evil."

Simmons said the United Nations approach did not work and the west had to "speak softly and carry a big stick".

The radio station today fielded calls from Muslims upset at the comments, including Australian Muslim of the year Susan Carland, who said Australian Muslims rejected extremism and did not fit Simmons' stereotype.

Ms Carland said she had two degrees, was doing her honours and "certainly do not walk behind my husband".

Chairman of the Islamic Council of Victoria Yasser Soliman said Simmons' comments were "very unfortunate".

"He's very famous obviously and popular and, as a result, influential," he said.

"Mixing the entertainment world with the political and religious world is a minefield."

He said Simmons had begun by talking about extremists but had gone on to vilify the entire Muslim culture.

"A number of his claims regarding women and what they are allowed to do and not do are wrong - Islam teaches the opposite," he said.

Simmons had a right to free speech, but this had to be balanced against the damage done to innocent people, he said.

"I think it would be good for overseas speakers and commentators to be given some sort of advice in regards to our vilification laws here," he said.

"They leave and go back to where they arrived from, but they leave behind a big mess that we have to live with."


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: asktheimam; australia; entertainer; feminism; feministsmia; freespeech; genesimmons; humanrights; islam; islamofascism; jews; kiss; kissarmy; music; muslims; pc; politicallycorrect; preachingtothaquior; religion; religiousintolerance; rock; rockandroll; rockmusic; terrorism; women; womensrights
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1 posted on 05/13/2004 9:25:49 PM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica

I was just waxing philosophically about the great bands of the 70s: Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Who, Rush, and Kiss. WTF was last one???


2 posted on 05/13/2004 9:29:00 PM PDT by evolved_rage (Where they take an arm and a leg.)
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To: veronica

And his comments are wrong because?


3 posted on 05/13/2004 9:29:25 PM PDT by Abbeville Conservative (We are the Orkin Men and the cockroaches are now being fumigated.)
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To: veronica

I've never been a Kiss fan -- not really into guys with makeup. But all these comments sound pretty much right on the money.


4 posted on 05/13/2004 9:29:27 PM PDT by 68skylark (.)
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To: veronica

Gene's always been a hawk on foreign policy and not just on the Middle East. I remember him making some not too kind remarks about the Russians during the 1980s.


5 posted on 05/13/2004 9:29:50 PM PDT by Clemenza (Strolling along country roads with my baby...)
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To: veronica
Simmons had a right to free speech, but this had to be balanced against the damage done to innocent people, he said.

What would we do without the Moslems working hard to make sure "no damage (is) done to innocent people". /sarcasm off

6 posted on 05/13/2004 9:30:18 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (I'm isthisnickcool, and I approved this post!)
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To: evolved_rage

Blondie, Elvis Costelo, The Clash, The Police, ...


7 posted on 05/13/2004 9:30:20 PM PDT by 68skylark (.)
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To: evolved_rage

Aerosmith and The Eagles come to mind.


8 posted on 05/13/2004 9:30:35 PM PDT by Abbeville Conservative (We are the Orkin Men and the cockroaches are now being fumigated.)
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To: veronica

Not a KISS fan, but Right-On! Gene


9 posted on 05/13/2004 9:31:57 PM PDT by Militiaman7 (Didn't Arab thugs abuse thousands in NYC on 9-11-2001? I've heard no apology !)
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To: veronica

Isn't Simmons the guy who says he's slept with something like 10,000 women? and Cher? LOL!


10 posted on 05/13/2004 9:32:01 PM PDT by Hildy (...Love like you've never been hurt and live like it's heaven on Earth. - Mark Twain)
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To: veronica

Bravo, Gene!


11 posted on 05/13/2004 9:32:59 PM PDT by musical_airman (Hey DUmmies!! We'll Win the war for you- now shut up and color!)
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To: veronica
"Mixing the entertainment world with the political and religious world is a minefield."

Yeah, tell it to Babs and the Blitzie Chicks. In the meantime, I'm going out and buying up every KISS CD I can find after I join the Gene Simmons fan club.

12 posted on 05/13/2004 9:33:10 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: veronica

Gene Simmons makes a ton of sense here. He makes more since than most Democrats and even some Republicans on the issues with face with Islam. It is not the relgion of peace. If it is, I would hate to see the relgion of hate.


13 posted on 05/13/2004 9:33:10 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: evolved_rage

The Starland Vocal Band?


14 posted on 05/13/2004 9:33:27 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: veronica
"Mixing the entertainment world with the political and religious world is a minefield."

You don't have to tell us -- we've got all kinds of New Age, politically correct, post-modern, anti-West garbage coming out of Hollywood and the music world.

Judging from Gene Simmons' comments, he ain't one of them.

15 posted on 05/13/2004 9:33:43 PM PDT by scott7278 ("FR will NOT be used to help replace Bush with a Democrat." -- Jim Robinson, 2/01/04)
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To: Bulldogger; Big Guy and Rusty 99; ChuxsterS
Rock and Roll All Nite, Party every day PING!!!!

I love Gene.

16 posted on 05/13/2004 9:33:53 PM PDT by RepoGirl
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To: Hildy
Isn't Simmons the guy who says he's slept with something like 10,000 women? and Cher?

No, no, no. You are thinking of Richard Simmons.

17 posted on 05/13/2004 9:34:01 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: Hildy

and Shannon Tweed most notably!


18 posted on 05/13/2004 9:34:01 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: veronica
"Simmons had a right to free speech, but this had to be balanced against the damage done to innocent people, he said."

Most of the damage being done to innocent people at this point in time is being done by Muslims.

19 posted on 05/13/2004 9:34:02 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: Hildy

So he claims. He was born in Tel Aviv and his mother survived the Nazi camps. He knows all about Nazis, the old and the new, and he tells it like it is.


20 posted on 05/13/2004 9:34:06 PM PDT by veronica (Sen. Robert Bryd has seen more hoods than Iraqi prisoners ever wore....)
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To: veronica; Old Sarge; Colonel_Flagg; kjfine; LindaSOG

YOu know, it sucks for them when one of the Hollywood types speaks out on foreign soil and it ain't anti-Bush!! I love it!!!

Ping!!!


21 posted on 05/13/2004 9:34:26 PM PDT by StarCMC (Please pray for the 2/7 Marines and Josh.)
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To: veronica

Gene Simmons and Kid Rock make more sense than the Bloated Bloviator from " Massassachusetts " and his evil twin, Lizard Man Kerry.


22 posted on 05/13/2004 9:34:57 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

Dood, please. ABBA.


23 posted on 05/13/2004 9:34:58 PM PDT by anonymous_user (Telling the truth means you never have to change your story.)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

Lynard Skynard, Greg Allman Band, Bad Company, .38 Special
Stevie Ray Vaughn, ZZ Top.....HELL YEAH!!

Seen Simmons on with H&C afew times...definitely flys with the Hawks not the Doves!


24 posted on 05/13/2004 9:35:09 PM PDT by FlashBack (USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA..USA...USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: veronica
Simmons had a right to free speech, but this had to be balanced against the damage done to innocent people, he said.

And just when do these "innocent people" plan to start acting against those who "abuse" the religeon instead of complaining of those speaking the truth?

25 posted on 05/13/2004 9:35:20 PM PDT by wanderin
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To: veronica; ntnychik; devolve; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; onyx
"This is a vile culture and if you think for a second that it's going to just live in the sands of God's armpit you've got another thing coming," he said.

Don't much care for him but he is just saying what most of us feel.

26 posted on 05/13/2004 9:35:24 PM PDT by potlatch ( Medals do not make a man. Morals do.)
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To: veronica

Typical conservative, everything is black and white.


27 posted on 05/13/2004 9:36:09 PM PDT by bayourod (Was Kerry one of the 17 Congressmen to whom Lawson sent torture pictures in March?)
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To: potlatch

That's the whole thing in a nutshell.


28 posted on 05/13/2004 9:36:33 PM PDT by veronica (Sen. Robert Bryd has seen more hoods than Iraqi prisoners ever wore....)
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To: evolved_rage

ELO?


29 posted on 05/13/2004 9:36:55 PM PDT by null and void ("Donít duck! They couldn't hit an elephant at this dis...")
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To: evolved_rage

Don't forget Heart.


30 posted on 05/13/2004 9:38:12 PM PDT by 68skylark (.)
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To: tortoise

I thought Richard Simmons was gay?


31 posted on 05/13/2004 9:38:19 PM PDT by John Will
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To: bayourod
Typical conservative, everything is black and white.

LOL!

32 posted on 05/13/2004 9:38:22 PM PDT by null and void ("Donít duck! They couldn't hit an elephant at this dis...")
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To: veronica
"Mixing the entertainment world with the political and religious world is a minefield."

True enough. Someone go tell Streisand and Jesse Jackson?

33 posted on 05/13/2004 9:38:36 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Out of intense complexities, intense simplicities emerge." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: wanderin
"And just when do these "innocent people" plan to start acting against those who "abuse" the religeon instead of complaining of those speaking the truth?"

Don't hold your breath.

34 posted on 05/13/2004 9:38:38 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: Abbeville Conservative
I'm among what is evidently a small minority, but I cannot stand The Eagles. :o)
35 posted on 05/13/2004 9:38:41 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: bc2

rocknroll ping.


36 posted on 05/13/2004 9:39:26 PM PDT by itsamelman ("Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement." -- R. Reagan)
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To: arasina

Take it easy!


37 posted on 05/13/2004 9:39:59 PM PDT by null and void ("Donít duck! They couldn't hit an elephant at this dis...")
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To: veronica

That's interesting. I didn't know his backround.

But regardless, any "educated" listeners ought to be able to discern that he was attacking the jihadist element of Islam. The Taliban proved to the world what their methodology of governance was, and it begat the likes of al-Qaeda. This is why the War of Terror requires us to remove any other regime that foments this type of warfare on western civilization.


38 posted on 05/13/2004 9:40:18 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: veronica

Never cared that much for Kiss, but Gene's right on the mark.


39 posted on 05/13/2004 9:40:20 PM PDT by Wampus SC
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To: veronica
IT'S REALLY MIND BOGGLING!!!!


40 posted on 05/13/2004 9:40:20 PM PDT by Hildy (...Love like you've never been hurt and live like it's heaven on Earth. - Mark Twain)
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To: Abbeville Conservative
And his comments are wrong because?

Because the truth hurts.

41 posted on 05/13/2004 9:40:30 PM PDT by highlander_UW (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel. - Robert Frost)
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To: veronica
He was born in Tel Aviv and his mother survived the Nazi camps. He knows all about Nazis, the old and the new, and he tells it like it is.

Gene gets it.

42 posted on 05/13/2004 9:40:44 PM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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To: Hildy

OUCH...I was posting a picture of THE TONGUE and this came up!!!


43 posted on 05/13/2004 9:40:53 PM PDT by Hildy (...Love like you've never been hurt and live like it's heaven on Earth. - Mark Twain)
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To: evolved_rage

Iron Butterfly?


44 posted on 05/13/2004 9:40:55 PM PDT by null and void ("Donít duck! They couldn't hit an elephant at this dis...")
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To: veronica

Just tell it like it is, Gene. Right on!!


45 posted on 05/13/2004 9:41:23 PM PDT by momfirst
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To: arasina
Neither can I.

And that was before I knew of Don Henley's abhorrent politics.

46 posted on 05/13/2004 9:41:30 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: veronica

STAND UP YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AFRAID.....Go Gene go!


47 posted on 05/13/2004 9:41:30 PM PDT by 31R1O
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To: veronica

Another side note: All the original members of KISS, and almost all of the replacements, were Jewish.

No real bearing on this discussion (other than a little insight on why Gene may harbor a little extra ill-will toward Arab folks), just a point of interest.


48 posted on 05/13/2004 9:41:32 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: Abbeville Conservative
And his comments are wrong because?

Well, they did say that there were some inaccurate statements.

Saying that women in islam are treated worse than dogs is inaccurate. Dogs are treated quite well by most people.

It would be much more accurate to say that the women in islam are treated worse than cockroches.

49 posted on 05/13/2004 9:41:48 PM PDT by SpottedBeaver (Hide not your talents, they for use were made. What's a sun-dial in the shade? - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: tortoise
"No, no, no. You are thinking of Richard Simmons."

Richard Simmons? Women? Gotta be kidding.... Let's see... Could it have been Little Richard? No, that can't be it either.
50 posted on 05/13/2004 9:43:03 PM PDT by Wampus SC
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