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1 posted on 05/16/2004 9:32:23 AM PDT by jmstein7
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Ok. But enough already. President Bush, get out there and remind the country that our real priority has to be in the field of battle, and that the leftists pushing this prisoner story will do nothing but consign the Iraqis to chaos and oppression. Enough defense.


2 posted on 05/16/2004 9:35:16 AM PDT by Williams
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And yet the media and the whining liberals will still blame Rumsfeld and Bush for this.


3 posted on 05/16/2004 9:36:42 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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As the 'under oath' testimonies start surfacing from the trials, the dems/libs will be disappointed. I doubt they find much 'order' from anyone high up than those who were on 'late night duty.'

The half-dozen weren't ordered, just encouraged, by those who were present during the after hours, late nite event(s).

A male guard has essentially said the same thing--there were no 'orders' to do what they did.


4 posted on 05/16/2004 9:39:16 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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OK, so now the truth is starting to come out. I think there is going to be a serious backlash against the democrats on this one.

I don't really think they realize what is coming their way.

5 posted on 05/16/2004 9:39:57 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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has told military investigators that she received no specific orders to abuse detainees.

Just did it on her own. Freelancing you know!

8 posted on 05/16/2004 9:44:26 AM PDT by jslade (People who are easily offended, OFFEND ME!)
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The CRY of LEFTISTS everywhere. "IT IS NOT MY FAULT!!" ......... "I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR MY OWN ACTIONS!!!"


11 posted on 05/16/2004 9:48:21 AM PDT by PISANO (NEVER FORGET 911 !!!!)
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military intelligence merely encouraged them to keep doing whatever they were doing to soften prisoners up - "that we were doing a good job.

The only problem would be with the MI not asking what was being done to achieve the "good job." If this statement from her is accurate, that is.

12 posted on 05/16/2004 9:49:10 AM PDT by Ruth A.
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I've been substitute teaching while I search for a new job. Students who misbehave go to RAC, (Really Angry Children??) or ISS, (In School Suspension). I'm not surprised that these "children" at Abu Grahib misbehaved for lack of proper supervision.

I was Subbing at Garland High School when the poop hit the fan re the gang fight between Garland and South Garland High. The news made it to Fox News and the O'Reilly Factor because the gangstas' had video taped and then posted the mayhem on an Internet Website. When Tony Snow was told this, (he was sitting in for O'Reilly) he said, "What was the web site? GangsRUS?

We're at war and those Dombocrats better back off! They're politicizing this issue while ignoring the 911 families.

13 posted on 05/16/2004 9:49:36 AM PDT by Young Werther
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"Most are not specific. Some are pretty clear. The exact wording, it's hard to say," attorney Gary Womack told the paper.
What the MI op said to clerk-typist England: Hey, Specialist. Tomorrow we plan to interrogate Ahmed the Abominable in cell block four. Please direct the sargeant of the guard to ensure he is fed and showered and prepared to move by, say, about 10.00AM.

What specialist England heard: Hey, babe. Strip a whole bunch of Iraqi men naked, put bags over their heads, and then mock them as they diddle themselves. Be sure to have group sex with your MP comrades in front of them. They'll love it.

It's all a matter of interpretation.
17 posted on 05/16/2004 10:06:28 AM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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Good post. The truth is slowing dribbling out.
I'm glad English is coming clean!
18 posted on 05/16/2004 10:27:08 AM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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bumpo for later reference


19 posted on 05/16/2004 10:30:16 AM PDT by Khurkris (Ranger On...revenge, grudge, payback...call it what you will. The knives are comin' out.)
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bookmark bump


20 posted on 05/16/2004 10:33:43 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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Instead she told probers that military intelligence merely encouraged them to keep doing whatever they were doing to soften prisoners up

How does this absolve the military of responsibility? Shouldn't they know exactly what the guards are doing? And why is there a photo of the interrogaters watching the pyramid of naked Iraqis, and yet, they say they didn't know what was going on? Those photos were staged photos. They weren't "candid camera." Who wanted them staged?

22 posted on 05/16/2004 10:35:32 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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Sounds to me like "Don't ask, don't tell." Why are the libs all hot and bothered about it.


27 posted on 05/16/2004 10:48:29 AM PDT by AZLiberty (Of course, you realize this means war! -- Bugs Bunny, borrowing from Groucho Marx)
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To: 30-06 Springfield

Ping


28 posted on 05/16/2004 10:52:30 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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bump


32 posted on 05/16/2004 11:07:57 AM PDT by Taffini (Simone is French. She hates everything.)
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The attorney's name is Guy Womack, not Gary Womack. He is not exactly an upstanding citizen either.

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In the Quadro case, the defense had called to the stand Guy Womack, an assistant U.S. attorney in the southern district of Texas, and a Quadro distributor. The day he was to testify, the prosecution informed Womack that he was under investigation for his role as a Quadro salesman. On the stand, instead of singing the praises of the product, Womack took the Fifth 42 times and clammed up.

The government is charging Quadro and its salesmen with fraud. That implies a culpable attempt to fool people. Surely, you'd think that the Quadro(" Tracker units have been designed to locate people from a photograph, as well as from a fingerprint. Thus missing prisoners, or escaped prisoners can be located with ease. The machine will identify an individual, no matter what disguise or surgery is undertaken. It has been tested over a distance of 500 miles, and will track, we believe, at any distance." ) guys knew that the device was useless.

In late January, 1997, Guy Lee Womack, an Assistant U.S. Attorney, resigned his office and agreed to pay a $5,000 civil fine. Womack confessed that he used his office to promote the Quadro Tracker®, a bogus drug and weapon detecting device. He paid $13,600 for distribution rights in Alabama, Arkansas, New Mexico and Wyoming and hosted meetings with investigators in Houston to show how the device worked.

The men were indicted on August 21, 1996 for deceiving customers into buying what they knew was a worthless device. Prosecutors claimed that the Quadro Tracker® was just a radio antenna attached to a hollow plastic box containing "chips" constructed of paper and plastic. The device was sold primarily to law enforcement agencies and school districts.

Guy Womack, Attorney At Law

U.S. Department of Justice, Assistant United States Attorney, 1990 - 1997

35 posted on 05/16/2004 11:49:08 AM PDT by kcvl
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42 posted on 05/16/2004 12:38:06 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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Which major presidential candidate once said this? But of course, John F. Kerry on Meet The Press, 18 April 1971
45 posted on 05/16/2004 1:09:55 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Remember, name and town, name and town, if you wish to opine)
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When all is said and done with this story, I belive the root of this evil will fall at the feet of one pathological, redneck prison guard.


49 posted on 05/16/2004 2:10:46 PM PDT by Beckwith
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